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KLin

Lifer
Feb 29, 2000
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Lions in the playoffs = rarer than the Niners in the playoffs lately. :-D
 

purbeast0

No Lifer
Sep 13, 2001
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9ers are -9.5 points against the Pack. If I were a betting man I'd take the points. That spread is too high IMO. The Pack are playing some great football and I think it'll be high scoring, but much closer. Although it may rain, so that'll effect the passing game. Weather is spotty though and will be off and on instead of downpour, at least as of this morning.
Why would you take the points if you think the spread is too high?
 

manly

Lifer
Jan 25, 2000
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Why would you take the points if you think the spread is too high?
I'm not a bettor, but he clearly means Packers +9.5. It's cool to say the Pack have been playing well, but they could also easily lose by three TDs. There were several scores last week that nobody would have predicted.

Go Pack, Go!

(I do expect the Packers to get destroyed, but I also had very low expectations last week.)
 

purbeast0

No Lifer
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I'm not a bettor, but he clearly means Packers +9.5. It's cool to say the Pack have been playing well, but they could also easily lose by three TDs. There were several scores last week that nobody would have predicted.

Go Pack, Go!

(I do expect the Packers to get destroyed, but I also had very low expectations last week.)
That is why I'm asking.

He either made a mistake, doesn't know betting terminology, or both lol.
 

manly

Lifer
Jan 25, 2000
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That is why I'm asking.

He either made a mistake, doesn't know betting terminology, or both lol.
His intent is pretty clear: he thinks the Niners won't cover.
I don't bet on sports, but is it wrong if I said "I'll take the Packers and the points"?

I believe this is okay: "I'll take the Packers if you give me 9 1/2."

Anyway, I don't need to lose money to enjoy watching sports.
 

purbeast0

No Lifer
Sep 13, 2001
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His intent is pretty clear: he thinks the Niners won't cover.
I don't bet on sports, but is it wrong if I said "I'll take the Packers and the points"?

I believe this is okay: "I'll take the Packers if you give me 9 1/2."

Anyway, I don't need to lose money to enjoy watching sports.
Yeah that is why I was asking.

Hey may think that 49ers -9.5 is actually what Packers +9.5 means.
 

zinfamous

No Lifer
Jul 12, 2006
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I'm not a bettor, but he clearly means Packers +9.5. It's cool to say the Pack have been playing well, but they could also easily lose by three TDs. There were several scores last week that nobody would have predicted.

Go Pack, Go!

(I do expect the Packers to get destroyed, but I also had very low expectations last week.)

So like, Niners can definitely lay a turd for a game--they've shown it a few times, already. ...but they definitely have the Packers' number in the playoffs in recent years. ....but also, that could just be the Ka'aron effect, which has been extinguished.

I'm very interested in this game, because it's been ...entertaining for the last several examples, haha.

(I think the -9.5 plays into recent Packers v Niners in the playoffs, but ignores how different both teams are, especially the Packers from a coaching point on down)
 

Torn Mind

Lifer
Nov 25, 2012
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Packers are going to give Kyle some Super Bowl(and NFC Championship game) PTSD.

31-20, Packers. For the first three quarters, it appears a done deal for the 9ers advancing. But in the fourth, 9ers will choke.

Same script as that Super Bowl.

Love is elite or at least well above "Prescott tier".
 

manly

Lifer
Jan 25, 2000
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So like, Niners can definitely lay a turd for a game--they've shown it a few times, already. ...but they definitely have the Packers' number in the playoffs in recent years. ....but also, that could just be the Ka'aron effect, which has been extinguished.

I'm very interested in this game, because it's been ...entertaining for the last several examples, haha.

(I think the -9.5 plays into recent Packers v Niners in the playoffs, but ignores how different both teams are, especially the Packers from a coaching point on down)
Past playoff matches are completely irrelevant.

Any team can lay a turd on any day, which is why the NFL is so unpredictable. Having said that, I think the range of plausible outcomes is from a close game to a Niners rout. People are being prisoners of the moment if they imagine the Packers can make the Niners look like a Mike McCarthy/Dak team.* On paper, the Niners are the strongest team in the field and they've underachieved since blowing the 2019 Super Bowl. So like the Bills, they're hungry and out to prove their critics wrong.

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In fact, I might as well skip the game. The guy who picked Mason fucking Rudolph last week just picked the Packers to win. So we already know what won't happen...

* To be clear, almost anything is possible but some things are less possible than others.
 

Torn Mind

Lifer
Nov 25, 2012
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Past playoff matches are completely irrelevant.

Any team can lay a turd on any day, which is why the NFL is so unpredictable. Having said that, I think the range of plausible outcomes is from a close game to a Niners rout. People are being prisoners of the moment if they imagine the Packers can make the Niners look like a Mike McCarthy/Dak team.* On paper, the Niners are the strongest team in the field and they've underachieved since blowing the 2019 Super Bowl. So like the Bills, they're hungry and out to prove their critics wrong.

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In fact, I might as well skip the game. The guy who picked Mason fucking Rudolph last week just picked the Packers to win. So we already know what won't happen...

* To be clear, almost anything is possible but some things are less possible than others.
I got swayed into picking Dallas because of a curse wheel by Brandon Perna. That pick was mental coping for not picking the Packers last week.

Also, you are probably loudest doubters of Jordan Love even though he is technically very productive in generating touchdowns, second only to Dakota Prescott.

Chase Young will no show anyway because he is a one-trick pony.
 

manly

Lifer
Jan 25, 2000
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I got swayed into picking Dallas because of a curse wheel by Brandon Perna. That pick was mental coping for not picking the Packers last week.

Also, you are probably loudest doubters of Jordan Love even though he is technically very productive in generating touchdowns, second only to Dakota Prescott.

Chase Young will no show anyway because he is a one-trick pony.
Picking NFL contests is a tough game, no doubt. Partly why I never bet, and also why I mostly don't make predictions. (I'm just as bad as the next guy if I try.)

I'm not a loud doubter of Jordan Love at all; I've been a Packers fan my entire adult life. I'm just saying that it is incredibly unlikely for "lightning to strike twice" in one spot.

What Love has done over an 8 game stretch is mind-boggling. I'm not quite ready to anoint him the next HoF Packers QB and throw a $50M AAV deal at him though.
 

Torn Mind

Lifer
Nov 25, 2012
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Ratbirds
Packers
Chiefs
Bucs - Lot's of back and forth on this. Both teams are flawed. Goff has defied his usual past tendency to fail under pressure, but I think the Bucs have the tools on the D to get him and prevent the Lions' run game.
 

Captante

Lifer
Oct 20, 2003
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I would call the Niners getting beat by this years Packers at least a "small" choke myself sorry.

Wouldn't be nearly the worst I've seen though.... GB with Love @ QB is a pretty good team. (And without Rat-bag Rodgers I can't even hate them anymore!) It would warm my heart seeing the look on Rodgers stupid face if the Packers somehow were to win it all RIGHT AFTER emptying the trash!




As for the Bills .... "on paper" I agree with you however in my GUT this year feels different.... like Allen has more "help".

We'll see.
 
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Captante

Lifer
Oct 20, 2003
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Tell you what the Texans D is a LOT tougher than I realized! Especially the linebackers.

I didn't actually see much of them this season.... I knew they could score but wow.
 

Torn Mind

Lifer
Nov 25, 2012
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I would call the Niners getting beat by this years Packers at least a "small" choke myself sorry.

Wouldn't be nearly the worst I've seen though.... GB with Love @ QB is a pretty good team. (And without Rat-bag Rodgers I can't even hate them anymore!) It would warm my heart seeing the look on Rodgers stupid face if the Packers somehow were to win it all RIGHT AFTER emptying the trash!




As for the Bills .... "on paper" I agree with you however in my GUT this year feels different.... like Allen has more "help".

We'll see.
The fix is heavy against the Bills. Shawn Hoculi is reffing. And I'm devilishly all FOR THE LACK OF INTEGRITY.
I haven't cooked up a name like Lord Burrow for Love. But he has Lord Burrow vibes!!!
 

dlerious

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Mar 4, 2004
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Tell you what the Texans D is a LOT tougher than I realized! Especially the linebackers.

I didn't actually see much of them this season.... I knew they could score but wow.
Lamar doesn't look rusty after the rest. 2 rushing TDs(100+ yards) and 2 passing TDs in a 31-10 game with about 6 minutes left in the game.
 
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Torn Mind

Lifer
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Lamar doesn't look rusty after the rest. 2 rushing TDs(100+ yards) and 2 passing TDs in a 31-10 game with about 6 minutes left in the game.
I think they adjusted their routine to maintain sharpness after that last time they got booted out by the Titans.

Also, Houston was way unprepared mentally...so many pre-snap penalties.
 

dlerious

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Mar 4, 2004
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I think they adjusted their routine to maintain sharpness after that last time they got booted out by the Titans.

Also, Houston was way unprepared mentally...so many pre-snap penalties.
Speaking about penalties, I can't believe the Raiders were the least penalized team last year - not that it did them any good.
 
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