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pete6032

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49ers look completely overmatched. Hard to read into this game too much due to injuries and snow but how will the 49ers be next year without so many injuries?
 

manly

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49ers look completely overmatched. Hard to read into this game too much due to injuries and snow but how will the 49ers be next year without so many injuries?
In the 21st Century, most Super Bowl losers enter painful rebuilding periods sooner rather than later.* The Niners flew a little too close to the sun this offseason and the chip window has seemingly closed. It'll be a lot harder for them after Purdy gets his $260M bag, because they will start looking to shed some veteran salary soon thereafter.

* Pats bounced back after the painful losses to the Giants. Mahomes lost to Bucs/Tom Brady a few years back, but has since won back-to-back. Note that these are all-time great QBs on great franchises. Other SB losers aren't so lucky.
 

manly

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Well. Shit.
Having a hard time remembering another season for a top contender go so disastrously. IIRC the Kobe Bryant/Dwight Coward* team had terrible chemistry, but Kobe willed them to an end of season surge into the playoffs (before his Achilles blew out). No such luck for your Niners.

On the flip side, you can now safely tank and try to draft the next Brock Purdy in a later round. Why pay him $50M+ per season just to rebuild?

* and injured Steve Nash!
 
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KMFJD

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Lions signed Jamal Adams and are looking to have him play linebacker, also signed Kwon Alexander from Denver's PS
 

thestrangebrew1

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IMO I don't think we should pay Brock the $260m bag. I just don't think he's that good. I wanted to believe, and maybe even drank the Kool-aid, but a great qb wills his teams to wins, elevates players and makes them better under all conditions. Not saying he sucks or anything like that, he's above serviceable in this league and he's still young so he will get better I believe. But he needs playmakers, and we're about to dump a few next year I would think (Deebo, Mason, Williams, though I can't remember what his recently signed contract is atm).

EDIT: I'm not saying he's the problem either. Our D coughed up 2 division games with leads, and our ST put us in some really bad positions as well this season.
 

manly

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IMO I don't think we should pay Brock the $260m bag. I just don't think he's that good. I wanted to believe, and maybe even drank the Kool-aid, but a great qb wills his teams to wins, elevates players and makes them better under all conditions. Not saying he sucks or anything like that, he's above serviceable in this league and he's still young so he will get better I believe. But he needs playmakers, and we're about to dump a few next year I would think (Deebo, Mason, Williams, though I can't remember what his recently signed contract is atm).

EDIT: I'm not saying he's the problem either. Our D coughed up 2 division games with leads, and our ST put us in some really bad positions as well this season.
The problem is that all franchise QBs not named Kirk Cousins* got their bag from their original team. Purdy will be no different. I get why you're not convinced he deserves $260M, and that's because only a handful of guys are actually elite and play to their contract. Other times, you end up with guys like Kyler Murray, Trevor Lawrence, or even Justin Herbert that are good but not great. Worst case scenario, you're the Browns and get stuck with Deshaun Watson because karma is a biyatch.

Heck, even Daniel Jones got paid but the Giants were smart enough to structure the contract in a way where it was really a 2 year deal with a modest payout compared to the top QB deals in the league.

* Even Cousins got his bag, he just had to hit free agency to get it elsewhere. And then he did it again. 🤣 The latest chatter is that the Falcons 3 game skid portends Cousins being one year and done in Atlanta.
 
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MrSquished

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I need the Lions to get healthy so they take out the eagles in the playoffs. Also I chose the lions in this poll at the beginning of the season.
 
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KMFJD

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Lions win , have the tie breaker vs the Eagles now i believe

/won 6 of their last 7 games vs Packers
 
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KLin

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Anyone catch Al Michael's TNF burn at the end of the game?

"This ending makes up for the past 2 years!"
 

manly

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Lions win , have the tie breaker vs the Eagles now i believe

/won 6 of their last 7 games vs Packers
Damn, how did the Packers become your bitches Bears?

I still don't understand going for it with 40 seconds remaining in the game. I know it's Dan Gamble, but the risk/reward didn't make any sense.

It's worse than I thought. Most of the available data* shows that 4th-and-1 fails about one-third of the time. I thought the conversion rate was higher than that, and it might be in recent seasons due to the Tush push. Now Campbell trusts his team and O-line so their chances are better than average; still it's far from a lock and Goff nearly tripped on the snap.

* https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nfl...art-rate-by-distance/vofkeub6xwms6imajxqkfipp
 

MrSquished

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Damn, how did the Packers become your bitches Bears?

I still don't understand going for it with 40 seconds remaining in the game. I know it's Dan Gamble, but the risk/reward didn't make any sense.

It's worse than I thought. Most of the available data* shows that 4th-and-1 fails about one-third of the time. I thought the conversion rate was higher than that, and it might be in recent seasons due to the Tush push. Now Campbell trusts his team and O-line so their chances are better than average; still it's far from a lock and Goff nearly tripped on the snap.

* https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nfl...art-rate-by-distance/vofkeub6xwms6imajxqkfipp
I watched the game. It was a fun game. The going for it on 4th down on their own 30 was dumb, I don't give a shit if you live by the sword, it's still dumb. It was dumb, it is dumb, and it will be dumb.

Great team to watch, great team to pull for - and I am rooting for the Lions to go all the way. Let's go eminem's team.
 

JTsyo

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I watched the game. It was a fun game. The going for it on 4th down on their own 30 was dumb, I don't give a shit if you live by the sword, it's still dumb. It was dumb, it is dumb, and it will be dumb.

Great team to watch, great team to pull for - and I am rooting for the Lions to go all the way. Let's go eminem's team.
Lions play the Bills next week. Might be a Super Bowl preview.
 

KMFJD

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They did not want to give Love a chance to tie it up with 40 seconds to go against a defence that has 17 people on ir, was not a fan of the 4th down on our own 30 though
 

Exterous

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They did not want to give Love a chance to tie it up with 40 seconds to go against a defence that has 17 people on ir, was not a fan of the 4th down on our own 30 though
Yeah that game had a ton of names on defense I'd never heard before. Talk about 'next man up'. Can you imagine how crazy this year would be if we still had people like Hutch on defense?

As it is - this is the first year I've actually been excited to watch the Lions play in forever. Doesn't feel like they're about to Lions (verb meaning to lose) a game they should have won. Lionsing a game now means finding a way to win
 
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thestrangebrew1

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The Bills had one job to do and blew it Sunday. Also, Seachickens and the Lord Helmet lead Cards should've just tied. Then our playoff chances would be 6% instead of 4% lol. Rams with the dual threat of Puka and Cooper, and Williams running like he is is going to be tough for the 9ers to pull out a victory.
 

MrSquished

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The jaguars did it right on Sunday and won - so now it's the raider's number one pick and giants two - and Sanders wants to be drafted by the raiders. What a shit show the giants have become.
 
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