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Allen is definitely the MVP. Daniels would be a close 2nd. For the talk of Lamar, sorry but Henry disqualifies him, its clear Henry was more important to their late season success. And while I know its for the regular season, we see why Lamar didn't get it.

Frankly, I feel like there should be questions about if Lamar threw that game. Those were worse than Levis level turnovers. I could maybe see the INT being a mistake, but he threw it right to the safety, like he wasn't even aiming at his WR. And the fumble, he laid the ball on the ground perfectly for Buffalo to pickup. For the complaints about officiating, the Ravens got away with so many that anyone complaining should be griping about them. Blatant holding on the 3rd or 4th down (think it was 3rd, just before they kicked the field goal to extend it to an 8 point game) pass, and then on the 2 passes including their last TD, their offensive line just straight up tackled Bills players and didn't get called for it. Meanwhile a Ravens d-lineman falls down and Buffalo gets called for holding?

I feel bad for Andrews, although the dropped 2 point conversion, that is almost Lamar's turnovers level of bad to the point you really have to wonder.

Not a fan of 18 games, but sounds like it's going to happen:

If nothing else, they should have two bye weeks and half the teams should be off on week A and the other half week B and then they flip the next season.

They're gonna get at least 20 regular season games, and 25 total games eventually, as they'll expand teams, and playoffs. I think people have leaked that that is their plan (20 games, and more teams).

The NFL is about the only sure thing on TV (+streaming) these days, so it's a no-brainer for them to add an 18th game. Players will grumble that safety is sacrificed, but they will accept the higher payouts.

(Similar deal in the NBA, which isn't even must-see TV. Everyone knows that 82 games is too many, but nobody wants to give up 10% and reduce inventory. They even had to reject TNT in order to take Amazon as the new broadcast partner.)

Lines for the conference championships:

Eagles -5
Chiefs -1.5

I'll never bet against Mahomes, but the Chiefs seem a bit vulnerable this year. It's arguably Josh Allen's best chance to get over the hump, aside from 13 miserable seconds.

Final 4 SB winner odds:
Eagles +180
Chiefs +240
Bills +250
Commanders +700

Chiefs were "vulnerable" last year too when they went on the road, although Arrowhead isn't the homefield advantage it used to be (think the Bills have beaten them there like 3 times in the last 4-5 years, plus Cinci beat them there in AFC champ game 21). I can't stand watching them this year. They play like crap for like 75% of the game, but make few mistakes, and then do just enough (often paired with mistakes and penalties by other team), they seem to just frustrate teams into losing. Its what they did in the playoffs last year and what they've done all year. Its how the Pats played when they weren't dominant and it sucks to watch, and easy why other fans hate them.
 

manly

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Lamar threw the game lol

Oh boy.
LOL the two turnovers were devastating, but when I looked up the box score, he didn't play a bad game. The INT wasn't even a bad read, he needed to throw the ball out to the sideline but it ended up towards the safety. The fumble was a dumb ass brain fart, just too loose with the football.

I've watched the Andrews drop a dozen times, and obviously he should've made the catch. He probably does 19/20 times. But it's slightly trickier than it looks; all his momentum is going to the sideline and he kind of has to wait for the ball to arrive. If you watch the replay, he is wide fucking open and Jackson actually waited a tick longer than necessary. Not to blame Jackson because it was still a catchable ball, but if you hit Andrews in stride, it's a very easy completion.

The same goes for the drop early in the ballgame; it was a ball near the ankles and the receiver had to slow down to try and snatch it.
 

akugami

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The Cowpokes are the NFC team with the longest NFC Championship game drought. Not talking winning, just appearing. They last appeared in the NFC Championship game in the 1995-1996 season. The Chicago Bears, yes those Bears, have the next longest drought having last made the NFC Championship game in the 2010-2011 season.

On the AFC side, the Browns have not appeared in the AFC Championship game since 1989-1990. The next longest drought would be the Miami Dolphins, having not made the AFC Championship game since the 1992-1993 season.

Technically the Seachickens would have the longest AFC Championship game drought, having not made the AFC Championship game since the 1983-1984 season, but they're now in the NFC, and have made it to at least the NFC Championship round in the 2014-2015 season.
 
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BoomerD

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The Cowpokes are the NFC team with the longest NFC Championship game drought. Not talking winning, just appearing. They last appeared in the NFC Championship game in the 1995-1996 season. The Chicago Bears, yes those Bears, have the next longest drought having last made the NFC Championship game in the 2010-2011 season.

On the AFC side, the Browns have not appeared in the AFC Championship game since 1989-1990. The next longest drought would be the Miami Dolphins, having not made the AFC Championship game since the 1992-1993 season.

Technically the Seachickens would have the longest AFC Championship game drought, having not made the AFC Championship game since the 1983-1984 season, but they're now in the NFC, and have made it to at least the NFC Championship round in the 2014-2015 season.
But at least they're not the Dee-Troit Lions...who, along with the Cleveland Browns, Houston Texans and Jacksonville Jaguars, have never been to the Super Bowl...win or lose.
 

purbeast0

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LMAO @ even mentioning Lamar threw the game.

I definitely stopped reading that post at that point and tells me all I need to know about his football knowledge.
 

MrSquished

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LMAO @ even mentioning Lamar threw the game.

I definitely stopped reading that post at that point and tells me all I need to know about his football knowledge.
I was just thinking to myself, I can't remember seeing a rookie QB look as good as Jayden Daniels has this year. I mean I am probably missing someone, but, any suggestions?
 

manly

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I was just thinking to myself, I can't remember seeing a rookie QB look as good as Jayden Daniels has this year. I mean I am probably missing someone, but, any suggestions?
I think Teddy Bruschi said if Washington somehow wins the SB, Daniels will have had the greatest rookie season ever. Perhaps in any sport.

Playing QB in the NFL is notoriously difficult; it's only fairly recently that rookies are succeeding at such an unusual level. Russell Wilson had a good rookie campaign, before winning the SB in year 2. A year ago, the hype train was massive for CJ Stroud but he hit the sophomore slump this season. Bo Nix started slow, but played well for Denver this year. But he was a five-year collegian, so that could help.

My basic understanding is that the NFL has adopted some collegiate principles such as RPO, so the transition has become a little easier. That's not to take anything away from Daniels.

If Daniels is #1, there are quite a few guys we've heard of in the top 10:

 

purbeast0

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I was just thinking to myself, I can't remember seeing a rookie QB look as good as Jayden Daniels has this year. I mean I am probably missing someone, but, any suggestions?
Even though I'm a homer, I don't believe there has been one. And I've watched like ALL of the talking heads on the national media talking about him this whole December and the consensus is also the same - there is none.

I saw this earlier today too and all of the comparables were basically being carried by a great defense, whereas what JD5 is doing is the exact opposite - he is carrying the team on his shoulders.

EDIT:

And no rookie QB has ever made it to a Super Bowl.

 

purbeast0

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I also don't know if you all saw the thread going around on Twitter, but it goes into depth about how JD5 uses the VR training to improve.

The overall gist of it is that when he uses VR to train, he plays it at 1.75x speed. And he gets used to it all at that speed and actual real game situations at that speed.

And then when he is playing football for real, it's just much slower and everything feels slowed down to him, making his processing that much easier for him.

It's pretty unreal.

EDIT:

Here is the thread - it's a very cool read.

 
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purbeast0

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I think Teddy Bruschi said if Washington somehow wins the SB, Daniels will have had the greatest rookie season ever. Perhaps in any sport.

Playing QB in the NFL is notoriously difficult; it's only fairly recently that rookies are succeeding at such an unusual level. Russell Wilson had a good rookie campaign, before winning the SB in year 2. A year ago, the hype train was massive for CJ Stroud but he hit the sophomore slump this season. Bo Nix started slow, but played well for Denver this year. But he was a five-year collegian, so that could help.

My basic understanding is that the NFL has adopted some collegiate principles such as RPO, so the transition has become a little easier. That's not to take anything away from Daniels.

If Daniels is #1, there are quite a few guys we've heard of in the top 10:

The fact that he played for 5 years in college has really helped him as well. He just has much more experience than a lot of the high prospect QBs do that come into the NFL.

Also all the talking pundits are talking about how he just processes information faster than anyone else and always makes the right decision - and a lot of that I think has to do with the VR training I mentioned up above.
 

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But at least they're not the Dee-Troit Lions...who, along with the Cleveland Browns, Houston Texans and Jacksonville Jaguars, have never been to the Super Bowl...win or lose.

Just a city boy
Born and raised in South Detroit
He took the midnight train going anywhere...except the Super Bowl...
 

MrSquished

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The Patriots and Josh McDaniels romance keeps getting rekindled. He is back to being their Offensive coordinator for the third time lol
 

akugami

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The Patriots and Josh McDaniels romance keeps getting rekindled. He is back to being their Offensive coordinator for the third time lol

What has Josh McDaniels really done outside of Tom Brady? This smells of desperation of getting the gang back together again for one last hurrah.
 

IronWing

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Today I learned that there is a player named Amon-Ra St. Brown. This is one of the best names I have ever heard, totally bitchin'.
 
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MrSquished

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Oh I had wanted to post this last weekend. Fucking Patrick mahomes and his flopping. That guy gets so many bullshit calls and on top of it he tries to flop too? Man I really hope that team loses this weekend
 

manly

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Today I learned that there is a player named Amon-Ra St. Brown. This is one of the best names I have ever heard, totally bitchin'.
welcome to 2021!


Amon-Ra is considered a top 5 WR this past season. Now that OC Ben Johnson has left to become the Bears HC, we'll find out how good Goff & Co. truly are.
 

zinfamous

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Today I learned that there is a player named Amon-Ra St. Brown. This is one of the best names I have ever heard, totally bitchin'.

that dude has been around for a while. His brother is Equanemious St Brown, or something like that.

You need to get out of the Packers bubble and pay attention to the rest of the league once in a while. Shit, he's even in your division! Do you watch those games, bro?
 
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