NFL Draft

[Capt Caveman]

They've always had needs as WR but it's always worked one way or the other. You could say that need has always been there, but I wouldn't call it a bigger need than to stop the bleeding of the weak secondary. I disagree with TE, that position hasn't been an integral part of their offense for years. In fact I was glad to see they weren't extending themselves to replace Baker / Watson, neither of which were all that important.

OLB and DE? definitely agreed.

The problem is that he would have been available in the 2nd round. So, Butler and Chung were wasted picks last year? And Wheatley and Wilhite were wasted picks the year before?

At their draft positions, they could have drafted an impact player instead they drafted a nickelback/special teamer.

And moving up to get TE Gresham would have helped open up their offense or getting Bryant who could be a superstud. Now, teams can double team Moss again.

Also, a pass rush would help to take pressure off the secondary. They should have traded out of the 1st round if they were going to draft McCourty.

 

[Blackjack200]

2 main problems with the Jets D last year was sacking the QB (lot of pressure but not as many takedowns) and when constantly faced with 4 wideout sets (thing indy in the playoffs) their difference between top CBs and backups was really evident. If this kid pans out, along with picking up Cromartie, they could be something real ugly.

And even if edwards still drops a couple, with him on one side and santonio on the others, unless sanchez fails to show any progress it's going to be extremely difficult to try and just stuff the box playing the run.

Revis makes this team. He shuts down the #1 reciever all by himself, and the rest of the defense just has to focus on the lesser recievers and the run.

I see the offense hinging on Green. If he's rushing for 100 yards a game and forcing to the linebackers to move up, Sanchez is going to have a field day throwing to Edwards and Holmes.

 

[zebano]

Damn you Jets, I wanted Wilson for my Vikings.

 

[mvbighead]

the colts could pick up colts mccoy or clausen to backup paython since he is up there in age.

He who drafts someone to be a backup for 5 years is a complete idiot. At least in their sensible pick of Hughes, they have a third edge rusher to rotate with Freeney and Mathis and keep pressure on the QB. Prior to that, the only pass rush they've had was with Freeney and Mathis. All other DEs were basically tweeners (DE/DT, but not excellent at either).

BTW, it's Peyton... not Payton.

 

[AstroManLuca]

LOL. Not only did Denver draft Tebow in the first round, but they traded up to do it?? HAHA

It is funny. I'm wondering if they have invented some kind of secret quarterback-combining machine that will turn Orton, Quinn, and Tebow into a single good QB. I'm not sure what good it is to have three backups at that position.

 

[Blackjack200]

It is funny. I'm wondering if they have invented some kind of secret quarterback-combining machine that will turn Orton, Quinn, and Tebow into a single good QB. I'm not sure what good it is to have three backups at that position.

I feel bad for the Broncos players. I'd probably put up a big pentagram in the locker room and see what he says.

 

[Russwinters]

Maybe their strat is "if we own all of the half decent QBs, the other teams will be left with....oh...crap...this plan isn't working"



haha

 

[Adrenaline]

Same thing could be said about Dallas, they where not hurting for WR's but they still went out and grabbed probably the best one available in the draft. I'd think they have more pressing issues than WR but i guess he was to good not to draft...bye bye R WIlliams...

I liked how the announcer flat out said something similar to this:

"Maybe this is the Cowboys admitting they messed up with their trade for Roy Williams."

 

[gimmewhitecastles]

I liked how the announcer flat out said something similar to this:

"Maybe this is the Cowboys admitting they messed up with their trade for Roy Williams."

Roy Williams is now the "best" albeit expensive slot receiver in the league.

 

[Adrenaline]

Roy Williams is now the "best" albeit expensive slot receiver in the league.

I can agree with this. He just comes off as not caring on the football field after he got paid. Miles Austin >>>>>>> Roy Williams

 

[KMFJD]

I can agree with this. He just comes off as not caring on the football field after he got paid. Miles Austin >>>>>>> Roy Williams

Having Matt Millen as your GM kind of kills all your drive/desire to be good i think....

 

[KeithTalent]

Huh, wonder if the Vikes will grab Clausen with the second pick today, unless the Rams trade the first pick to someone who wants/needs a QB. :hmm:

KT

 

[gimmewhitecastles]

Huh, wonder if the Vikes will grab Clausen with the second pick today, unless the Rams trade the first pick to someone who wants/needs a QB. :hmm:

KT

I see them picking McCoy over Clausen if they were to go QB. Minny runs a West Coast/Spread offense like what McCoy ran in Texas.

 

[KeithTalent]

I see them picking McCoy over Clausen if they were to go QB. Minny runs a West Coast/Spread offense like what McCoy ran in Texas.

Eh, no way. If they pick one it will be Clausen, regardless of the system.

KT

 

[fustercluck]

Why is everyone so sure Tebow won't be a good NFL QB? All he did in College was win. I think draft 'experts' and scouts get too enamored with a QB's throwing motion and think they can base everything on that. It all sounds like a bunch of BS. I just don't know what it is about Tebow's college football career that shows he can't make it in the NFL. College Football and the NFL aren't that different.

 

[crownjules]

Why is everyone so sure Tebow won't be a good NFL QB? All he did in College was win. I think draft 'experts' and scouts get too enamored with a QB's throwing motion and think they can base everything on that. It all sounds like a bunch of BS. I just don't know what it is about Tebow's college football career that shows he can't make it in the NFL. College Football and the NFL aren't that different.

They're not different in the sense of how it's played. They're different in the levels of talent and skill. Only the top 2-3% of college players get into the NFL. College is much more watered down and allows for mistakes and bad mechanics that simply will not cut it in the NFL. In the case of Tebow and his signature throwing motion, he will be eaten alive by defenses because they will get to him much faster than the defenses he faced in college. That and the secondary will pick up on his motion and will have extra time to make a play on the ball since his release comes much later than a better QB who releases the ball faster.

He says he has "fixed" his form. The concern is that, even if he has, when the shit hits the fan and he goes into panic mode will he revert to what he knows as most people tend to do?

 

[Via]

Not to mention that Tebow was surrounded by future NFL players who masked his flaws. Even the non-future NFL players at Florida are only a notch below NFL level as far as talent goes.

If Tebow had done what he did at FLA at, let's say, U of I - then I could see some 1st or 2nd round debates.

Did you see him at the Senior bowl? lol

 

[ScottFern]

I hope the Bears trade up into the second round and take Taylor Mays!!!

 

[Blackjack200]

Not to mention that Tebow was surrounded by future NFL players who masked his flaws. Even the non-future NFL players at Florida are only a notch below NFL level as far as talent goes.

If Tebow had done what he did at FLA at, let's say, U of I - then I could see some 1st or 2nd round debates.

Did you see him at the Senior bowl? lol

What happened? Did he have a lousy game?

 

[PepePeru]

Why is everyone so sure Tebow won't be a good NFL QB? All he did in College was win. I think draft 'experts' and scouts get too enamored with a QB's throwing motion and think they can base everything on that. It all sounds like a bunch of BS. I just don't know what it is about Tebow's college football career that shows he can't make it in the NFL. College Football and the NFL aren't that different.

I'm not a Tebow fan by any stretch but I agree with you.

None of the talking heads on ESPN, the radio or draft message boards apparently know jack shit about when and where players will be taken. Furthermore, none of them have a proven track record of predicting how their careers will turn out, either.

 

[KeithTalent]

I'm not a Tebow fan by any stretch but I agree with you.

None of the talking heads on ESPN, the radio or draft message boards apparently know jack shit about when and where players will be taken. Furthermore, none of them have a proven track record of predicting how their careers will turn out, either.

I do not understand how all of these guys stay employed just being draft "gurus" like Kiper and McShay. Such a freaking waste of time.

KT

 

[AstroManLuca]

I'm not a Tebow fan by any stretch but I agree with you.

None of the talking heads on ESPN, the radio or draft message boards apparently know jack shit about when and where players will be taken. Furthermore, none of them have a proven track record of predicting how their careers will turn out, either.

That's true. The problem is that the reporters at ESPN and other sports news outlets are expected to give some analysis. Too bad they're usually so bad at it. Picking who will have a good and a bad NFL career on draft day is like picking who will win the Super Bowl two or three years ahead of time.

I wouldn't count Tebow our OR in at this point. We'll just have to see. But sports analysts aren't paid to say that. What I will say is that it's really weird that Denver drafted him, but people have gone over that a lot already.

 

[Via]

What happened? Did he have a lousy game?

You didn't see those throws he made? With that loopy throwing motion?

 

[fustercluck]

Yeah well let's forget about Tebow's NFL chances because he played badly in the senior bowl.

He might not pan out as an NFL QB, but you could say that about any QB. It's kinda weird to me that people said he would get drafted in the 3rd round, or might play tight end instead of QB or some shit like that.

Of course the NFL is faster and will take time to adjust, but again, same for all QBs in the draft. Then again I'm not too familiar with this throwing motion stuff but that's all they talk about on TV. The question for me is, can the QB win games?

I think the Broncos will be happy with this pick in the long run.

 

[KeithTalent]

You didn't see those throws he made? With that loopy throwing motion?

Didn't he fumble a bunch of snaps too?

KT