NFL officials agree, Ndamakung Suh has elbows in the palms of his hands

[bignateyk]

i thnk technically all stikes to the head are PF's

unless its on bigben of course......

Yeah I was gonna say.. you'd never know that after watching the steelers game the other night.

As a general rule though I would rather them NOT penalize that. But if they are going to, at least do it with consistency.

 

[Squisher]

i thnk technically all stikes to the head are PF's

unless its on bigben of course......

It is, but Suh hit him in the back and shoulder. NFL is saying he hit him too hard and you weren't sorry about it.

 

[gorcorps]

While it does LOOK like it was a bit rough, that's what happens when someone like Suh hits someone like Cutler. If he did that to a fullback or something it'd look like a fair tackle, but because QBs aren't really big it looks a lot worse.

In short: yeah, Suh got screwed over and Cutler's still a bitch

 

[rcpratt]

i thnk technically all stikes to the head are PF's

unless its on bigben of course......

A STRIKE to the head is, but that implies a punch or this invisible "forearm shiver."

Pushing someone in the head in the process of tacking is not illegal in any way.

 

[shocksyde]

QBs need to learn how to slide or suffer the consequences. If you're a QB and stay up, you deserve to be popped every bit as much as a fullback would.

On the same topic : who else thought the Ngata fine was stupid?

Even as a Ravens fan I can understand the Ngata fine. He broke a QB's nose by hitting him in the face. It surely wasn't on purpose, but it happened.

 

[IceBergSLiM]

That's what happens when you run your franchise into the ground. You get shitty refs and the league isn't going to care because you make them look bad by having such a shitty organization.

Hochuli isn't a shitty ref.

 

[Deeko]

Hochuli isn't a shitty ref.

Yea, he's had some high profile screw ups, but all in all he's one of the best.

edit: plus, if you say bad things about him, he'll come and kick your ass, and then somehow find you liable in court with his lawyer skills.

 

[BudAshes]

that was ridiculous, seriously wtf. What was that qb running for anyway?

 

[rcpratt]

that was ridiculous, seriously wtf. What was that qb running for anyway?

For....a first down?

 

[Ricemarine]

Somehow I feel that if Cutler hadn't straightened out when he got pushed that would've been a neck injury right there.

 

[geno]

Even as a Ravens fan I can understand the Ngata fine. He broke a QB's nose by hitting him in the face. It surely wasn't on purpose, but it happened.

I guess that's my beef with it, it wasn't on purpose and it was just shit luck it worked out that way. What if someone gets poked in the eye by mistake, which has certainly happened before, fine them?

 

[BudAshes]

For....a first down?

Then he should be prepared to get crushed. Stay in the pocket and you get protected by the rules, leave and be prepared for pain.

 

[shocksyde]

I guess that's my beef with it, it wasn't on purpose and it was just shit luck it worked out that way. What if someone gets poked in the eye by mistake, which has certainly happened before, fine them?

If it's a QB, yeah. ANY blow to the head of the QB, even if you just graze their helmet, is a penalty.

 

[rcpratt]

Then he should be prepared to get crushed. Stay in the pocket and you get protected by the rules, leave and be prepared for pain.

I don't disagree. Although technically I believe they're protected by the rules as long as they're behind the line of scrimmage, not just in the pocket.

 

[rcpratt]

If it's a QB, yeah. ANY blow to the head of the QB, even if you just graze their helmet, is a penalty.

He's not a QB past the line of scrimmage. He's a runner. Those rules DO NOT APPLY.

 

[Zargon]

It is, but Suh hit him in the back and shoulder. NFL is saying he hit him too hard and you weren't sorry about it.

eh he caught the back of the helmet I thought too

 

[PimpJuice]

I don't know why I waste my time and money on this shitty league.

I don't either, why don't you just stop watching.

Maybe then we can be spared from your incessant whining and flamboyant arguments.

 

[rcpratt]

I don't either, why don't you just stop watching.

Maybe then we can be spared from your incessant whining and flamboyant arguments.

Now my feelings are hurt :'(

Weird that I haven't heard of anybody agreeing with the fine though...hmm...

 

[juiio]

It is, but Suh hit him in the back and shoulder. NFL is saying he hit him too hard and you weren't sorry about it.

Suh hit him in the head and the shoulder. Suh hit the shoulder with his left hand and the head with his right hand.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gOYOxI7nDyY&t=14m18s

 

[shocksyde]

He's not a QB past the line of scrimmage. He's a runner. Those rules DO NOT APPLY.

Was referring to Haloti Ngata's fine.

 

[rcpratt]

Was referring to Haloti Ngata's fine.

Oh you're right, sorry, quote reading fail.

 

[SphinxnihpS]

Quiet you bitches. The Bears had an entire game stolen from them by the refs when they called a fumble on Jay Cutler after he clearly stuck the ball across the plane of the goal line. Bad calls against bad teams should be expected. Play through that shit!

 

[Malak]

I have it paused right on the hit, and his hand is on the back of his head. You can even clearly tell where the hit is just by seeing cutler's head snap forward. This is not how a tackle is made. He didn't push him down, he hit, and part of that hit was on the head. He made a bad decision and got fined for it. Maybe next time he'll do what he was trained to do instead of expressing his aggression in an unhealthy manner.

 

[geno]

instead of expressing his aggression in an unhealthy manner.

Exactly, because there's no place for such behavior in football :whiste:

 

[classy]

Yeah, that play was ridiculous. Suh did nothing wrong.

Agreed he just pushed him down real hard. Clean play