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dank69

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What happens when they disrespect your wife?

When it turns from crying because they didn't get their way to calling your wife (the one you love, the one that parents and feeds the child from birth) a bitch and a wise and beautiful woman?

What then? Sorry, just throwing this out there since the only "spanking" situation everyone seems to get into their head is a kid crying because he can't watch TV or something.
No TV, no games, no phone, no car, no dessert, etc., etc.
 

Uppsala9496

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What happens when they disrespect your wife?

When it turns from crying because they didn't get their way to calling your wife (the one you love, the one that parents and feeds the child from birth) a bitch and a wise and beautiful woman?

What then? Sorry, just throwing this out there since the only "spanking" situation everyone seems to get into their head is a kid crying because he can't watch TV or something.

I would hope that as a parent, you have done a better job raising the child than to get to that stage. If a child is that disrespectful to a parent there is an underlying reason. My kid is only 6, so we are not even close to the stage of being disrespectful to that degree.

Worst I have heard is "I hate you" when she didn't want to take a bath. Simple solution is to tell her fine, no bath, however if you are not taking a bath you are not allowed to do X. After a quick temper tantrum the cognitive abilities kick back in and she realizes there are consequences to her behavior.
 

NetWareHead

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What a bunch of bleeding hearts in this thread. My parents are old school European (Italian) and I was quick to get beat with whatever object was in hand or within reach when I messed up. I got bruises and sometimes cuts like that photo at times too. I cant decide what was the worst thing to get whipped with. Either it was those plastic race car tracks (when I wouldnt stop playing with my race cars and do my homework) or the coaxial cable (when my dad caught me watching tv when I was grounded already for somethign else I did wrong). My mom was more of a "thrower" and I got all kinds of objects thrown at me. Most lethal were those sandals made of wood (clogs?) with the leather buckle for the foot to go through. Each shoe weighed well over a pound and if her aim was true, god help you.

There is a big difference between child abuse and discipline. Sorry but an open hand smack on the ass does nothing. Something with a little more authority and force is needed at times. And marks are just an expected result of discipline...what do you think is going to happen to skin when you get an ass-whoopin for misbehavior??
 

Uppsala9496

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I would take your track and race cars from you.
Do it a second time, or lash out as a result of my taking them away and they go in the trash never to be seen again.

There is a big difference between child abuse and discipline. My removing your race cars is discipline. Hitting you with the track or throwing items at you is child abuse.
 

Retro Rob

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I would take your track and race cars from you.
Do it a second time, or lash out as a result of my taking them away and they go in the trash never to be seen again.

There is a big difference between child abuse and discipline. My removing your race cars is discipline. Hitting you with the track or throwing items at you is child abuse.


SO instead of just spanking them, you'd continue to waste money and throw your kids toys in the trash.

That psychological abuse seeing their favorite action figure trashed because you're to PC to spank your kids. They have emotional attachments to toys...to bad you care much more about public opinion than your own child's emotions.
 
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/Shrug, I'm a soon to be parent. So I'm here just gathering opinions if anything.

I'm generally under the impression of spanking being completely okay - the principle being that it is within reason. I was whipped with a belt probably within a handful (< 5 times) in my childhood (Growing up, 1 -> 17). I can honestly sit here and say I should have been belted more.

What I am not okay with is the general public outcry that don't spank at all telling everyone else it's not okay to spank. Once again, do you have the Parental Guide to raising the perfect kids? If so, I would love to see it. Because guess what? You failed miserably with this last generation you fuckheads. We're on the verge of economic collapse because complete shitheads can't even pass high school, let alone choose a topic as horrific as STEM.... no no no, do what you enjoy kids! Go into fine arts, history, english, and other topics guaranteed to keep our economy at a stand still.
 
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SO instead of just spanking them, you'd continue to waste money and throw your kids toys in the trash.

That psychological abuse seeing their favorite action figure trashed because you're to PC to spank your kids. They have emotional attachments to toys...to bad you care much more about public opinion than your own child's emotions.

He does have a point...
 

rpanic

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I have three sons and could not imagine going and beating any of them with a stick. I will admit I have gave my two oldest a hard swat on the ass or leg for doing really bad things and even then it was more of me losing my cool and had no real benefit other than making them temporarily afraid of me. Parents should be able to discipline their kids the way they see fit but looking at the pics the guy went too far.

If I left marks like that on my wife or another adult I would be doing time, why is there a difference because it’s his kid?
 

Franz316

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You'll find a tendency that the only people that support physically beating a child are the ones that had it done to themselves.

Being hit by a parent leads to fear, resentment, and loathing among other things. Fear can oftentimes be misinterpreted for respect and that leads to justification for more punishment. If it reaches the point of needing physical punishment I'd wager to say you've already lost the respect of your child. If they respect you as a parent and person, they will not want to let you down and hence follow your rules.

You can have discipline without physical punishment and it begins with mutual respect.
 

dank69

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You'll find a tendency that the only people that support physically beating a child are the ones that had it done to themselves.

Being hit by a parent leads to fear, resentment, and loathing among other things. Fear can oftentimes be misinterpreted for respect and that leads to justification for more punishment. If it reaches the point of needing physical punishment I'd wager to say you've already lost the respect of your child. If they respect you as a parent and person, they will not want to let you down and hence follow your rules.

You can have discipline without physical punishment and it begins with mutual respect.
Good post.
 

smackababy

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You'll find a tendency that the only people that support physically beating a child are the ones that had it done to themselves.

Being hit by a parent leads to fear, resentment, and loathing among other things. Fear can oftentimes be misinterpreted for respect and that leads to justification for more punishment. If it reaches the point of needing physical punishment I'd wager to say you've already lost the respect of your child. If they respect you as a parent and person, they will not want to let you down and hence follow your rules.

You can have discipline without physical punishment and it begins with mutual respect.

Except, that isn't true at all. How does someone respect you if they have no understand of respect? You think a 4 year old has that understand? They don't understand right or wrong or good or bad. Not to the point that explaining why they should or shouldn't act in a certain way. Until they have an actual understand, they won't respond to things like that.
 

TreVader

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Corporal punishment is outlawed in CA I'm not sure why it's not illegal all over the country.


Thrashman said it perfectly, if you did this to an adult, even your own son, you'd be arrested and charged with ADW. How is suddenly ok if your kid is a defenseless toddler?


Cowardly, disgusting people beat children and I'm amazed that there are so many bumpkins on this site who are ok with it.
 
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You'll find a tendency that the only people that support physically beating a child are the ones that had it done to themselves.

Being hit by a parent leads to fear, resentment, and loathing among other things. Fear can oftentimes be misinterpreted for respect and that leads to justification for more punishment. If it reaches the point of needing physical punishment I'd wager to say you've already lost the respect of your child. If they respect you as a parent and person, they will not want to let you down and hence follow your rules.

You can have discipline without physical punishment and it begins with mutual respect.

Good post.

Disagree.

How can you say you know it's someone? I was someone that got hit as a kid, and I'm saying it taught me well. It helped me respect my parents better. It brought me up better.

Being 1 of 2 kids in the family, I turned out to be the better of the 2 - probably because my parents didn't opt to spank my sister.

Do me a favor: Don't try to rationalize retarded phrasing "You'll find that...people that support physically beating a child are the ones"... as if you know what everyone is and what they do and how they are when you haven't done it. QED.
 

bshole

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When it turns from crying because they didn't get their way to calling your wife (the one you love, the one that parents and feeds the child from birth) a bitch and a wise and beautiful woman?

Good christ, I have a 14 and 11 year old and they never ever came close to anything like that. If they have gotten to that point, you have already completely lost them. Spanking is absolutely useless at that point. I am against spanking in general. There is just something about telling a defenseless person that you love them and then physically assaulting them that strikes me as twisted.

I have found that letting them know that they have disappointed me is an extremely good motivator. My punishment in general is the withholding of good things and even that is quite rare.
 

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If someone saw him do this exact same thing to his wife, or even his dog, he'd be in jail. Why is this okay because it's a 4 year old (and these cuts are a week old)?

 

Retro Rob

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You'll find a tendency that the only people that support physically beating a child are the ones that had it done to themselves.

You'll find a tendency that the only people who don't support physically disciplining a child are those that didn't have it done to themselves.

Being hit by a parent leads to fear, resentment, and loathing among other things.
Being hit by a parent leads to respect, discipline, and appreciation for parental authority, among other things.

Fear can oftentimes be misinterpreted for respect and that leads to justification for more punishment. If it reaches the point of needing physical punishment I'd wager to say you've already lost the respect of your child.
Respect for parental authority can often times be misrepresent as fear, that leads to MORE political correctness for less punishment. If it reaches the point of no punishment at all, I'd wager that you're kids don't respect you.


If they respect you as a parent and person, they will not want to let you down and hence follow your rules.
If they respect you as a parent and person, they will value your discipline, and are more prone to follow your rules.

You can have discipline without physical punishment and it begins with mutual respect.
You can have discipline with physical punishment, and it begins with not being your kids 'friends'.

Everything you said does go the other way, in every respect.
 

dank69

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You'll find a tendency that the only people who don't support physically disciplining a child are those that didn't have it done to themselves.

Being hit by a parent leads to respect, discipline, and appreciation for parental authority, among other things.

Respect for parental authority can often times be misrepresent as fear, that leads to MORE political correctness for less punishment. If it reaches the point of no punishment at all, I'd wager that you're kids don't respect you.


If they respect you as a parent and person, they will value your discipline, and are more prone to follow your rules.

You can have discipline with physical punishment, and it begins with not being your kids 'friends'.

Everything you said does go the other way, in every respect.
Awful post. Practically incoherent at some points.
 

Retro Rob

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Awful post. Practically incoherent at some points.

"Awful" is a subjective term, and I'm speaking from personal experience...everything I said is how I benefited from spankings.

Whenever I speak to my parents, I thank them and I'm glad they ignored what was "socially acceptable" and did what was in my best interests.

There is no right or wrong way to raise your kids, but PC proggies for some reason think there is.
 

squarecut1

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"Awful" is a subjective term, and I'm speaking from personal experience...everything I said is how I benefited from spankings.

Whenever I speak to my parents, I thank them and I'm glad they ignored what was "socially acceptable" and did what was in my best interests.

There is no right or wrong way to raise your kids, but PC proggies for some reason think there is.

It is sad that you would just use your personal experience to make a general statement.

And I am anything but a politically correct type, or liberal. I do not subscribe to any particular ideology. And yes, kids these days are pampered too much. But that does not mean you beat them.
 

MongGrel

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I am all for spanking. it is a effective tool if used sparingly.

What AP did though is abuse. he went and got a branch off a tree. striped it of small twigs and then beat his 4 yr old with it.

that is abuse not spanking.

I used to get it with a plaster lathe now and then, on medium power growing up.

He's using a whip on high power it looked.

Even then, some of the things my father did with a belt would have fallen squarely into abuse these days, like learning your ABC's and tying you're shoes, at a very young age.

He's dead, he had other qualities later in life after a divorce from my other when I was 12 or so, but he did straighten up a lot in his own right later on down the road and I moved in with him again whe was about 16 and he had remarried.

I'm rambling now, sorry.

What he's doing with the whip basically is not right.
 
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squarecut1

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Frankly, it does not surprise me to read some of the view in this thread. We are after all a violent society. We do it domestically, we do it internationally. It is very much part of our culture.
 
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BTW, this is the 2nd incident involving him and his kids. The last incident (2013) apparently left a scar on the kid's forehead.

Note, this was a different child of his.
 
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