nForce 2

[jonmullen]

I aggree with CraigJay I hate it when companies make paper launches just to keep their names in the news. Its miss leading and frustrating. You get all excited about a product only to be forced to wait serveral months for the paper to turn into PCB and Silicon.

 

[Semper Fi]

If possible I would like to know how the older Slot A setups compare to the n-Force2.
I still have a Slot-A 850mhz setup, and am looking to upgrade in the near future and am curious as to what kind of performance increases I can expect overall.

Thanks.

 

[Leokor]

What is this talk about the FSB/PCI/AGP dividers? What from I understand, the nForce1 and nForce2 chipsets have done away with the "divider" word, because they have three independently generated clocks, one of FSB, one for PCI, and one for AGP. "Independently generated" is the key, hence no for any dividers.

When will the people finally get it? No dividers! Everything is adjustable independently of each other.

Leo

 

[klah]

I knew this was going to be the case with the nforce2 after reading this: Anand nforce2 preview but I was not aware that this was the case with nforce1. Are there any links to reviews of nforce1 boards that test this?

 

[Leokor]

Originally posted by: klah
I knew this was going to be the case with the nforce2 after reading this: Anand nforce2 preview but I was not aware that this was the case with nforce1. Are there any links to reviews of nforce1 boards that test this?

Well, I don't know of any reviews, but anyone who owns an nForce mobo can readily attest to the fact that the FSB can be adjusted independently of PCI. There is no mention of any dividers in the BIOS. Instead, there is the "CPU/PCI Frequency" adjustable as "133/33", "134/33"", etc. I'm sure some reviews might have BIOS screenshots about that.

This is why it has never been a question whether nForce2 would support 333 MHz bus. It was always obvious that it would (simply because nothing else needed to be done), and that so would nForce1.

Leo

 

[Crovakiet]

I would like to see some sort of testing done to determine any pci problems/issues (maybe sticking a bunch of problematic pci components in the rig such as scsi card, sblive (just to test out stability), etc). As I own a via chipset mobo (with these kinds of pci components), there are numerous MAJOR problems with their pci implementation, which is the only reason why I want an Nforce 2 (to stick with amd). Otherwise, its intel from here on out...

 

[bupkus]

Whether there are any issues running linux.

 

[Soulkeeper]

That definately interests me too
i don't use windows and havn't in well over a year
nforce2 + barton + nv30 = ultimate linux gaming machine
muahahaha

 

[Soulkeeper]

Muahahahahaha........

 

[kgraeme]

Originally posted by: Soulkeeper
ultimate linux gaming machine

Isn't that an oxymoron, Dr. Evil?

 

[Boonesmi]

another vote for info on 1/5th and 1/6th pci dividers
thats one of the most important things to me.

very few reviewer go to the trouble to research and test, and actually verifiy "yes" or "no" on the dividers... but to me its a key feature and should be looked into

and in the last page of the review where you have the table with all the features the 1/5th and 1/6th dividers should be among the features listed

 

[Leokor]

Originally posted by: Boonesmiand in the last page of the review where you have the table with all the features the 1/5th and 1/6th dividers should be among the features listed

They will not be listed, because there is no concept of dividers in the nForce chipsets. Dividers are needed when there is only one clock generator for the buses, and therefore the divider specifies how each bus relates to another. But the nForce chipsets have three independent clock generator, so no bus depends on each other. This is much better!

When will the people start thinking out of the box? Everyone got used to dividers, and if they don't see them in the list of features, would they say "no good" when it is far better?

Leo

 

[86plymouthcolt]

I really want to see the on-board video put through the works. This board (if it does what nvidia promises) will have to carry me until NV30 next year.

 

[Boonesmi]

i know this is technically asking about the nforce2 review, but my comment was about motherboard reviews in general, and specifically the last few roundups of kt266a and kt333 boards

 

[Adul]

So where is our review

 

[Soulkeeper]

kgraeme we'll see

OHh yeah, if there aren't pci bus dividers then atleast overclock the thing and tell us what happens
i just wanna run a 200fsb 200mem and know if my devices remain in spec (i'm asuming it does, if there is no pci bus divider and such)
wonder if the nforce2 overclocks well....
cause when i look for a motherboard i'm not looking at what it does in it's default config
i'm looking to see what it will let me make it do and what it's maximum is

i wanna get the best mem out there and crank it as high as i can with it's fastest timings while running synchronous to the fsb

 

[Soulkeeper]

i guess overclocking features and bios settlings and stuff are mostly reserved for individual motherboard reviews
so i'll be looking forward to those
ahhh the anticipation.....