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Originally posted by: NaOH
So, brake pads aren't actually contacting with anything? wtf?
You bought a bike to go fast. Why do you want to slow it down? :^P
Originally posted by: NaOH
So, brake pads aren't actually contacting with anything? wtf?
Originally posted by: Beanie46
Originally posted by: Gibson486
yes they are. $600 bikes usually have $200-250 worth of profit.
No they don't. Ever sold bicycles? Ever bought them wholesale from, say Trek or anyone else?
Thought not.....
Markup on bicycles is incredibly low......top end bicycles, those in the high four figure range, do indeed have 20%-25% markups, but low end bicycles, those under $500 have markups in the 12%-15% range. A $600 bicycle will cost the shop like $500 or more, before shipping costs. Those $250 cheapie bikes in the shop will have wholesale prices of like $150-$175, before shipping, and the shop pays for shipping, always.
(How do I know? Husband worked/was manager of a bicycle shop for approx. 7 years....sold Trek, Lightspeed, Gary Fisher, Klein, Cannondale, Schwinn, Giant, among other brands.)
Originally posted by: Chiropteran
Originally posted by: Beanie46
Originally posted by: Gibson486
yes they are. $600 bikes usually have $200-250 worth of profit.
No they don't. Ever sold bicycles? Ever bought them wholesale from, say Trek or anyone else?
Thought not.....
Markup on bicycles is incredibly low......top end bicycles, those in the high four figure range, do indeed have 20%-25% markups, but low end bicycles, those under $500 have markups in the 12%-15% range. A $600 bicycle will cost the shop like $500 or more, before shipping costs. Those $250 cheapie bikes in the shop will have wholesale prices of like $150-$175, before shipping, and the shop pays for shipping, always.
(How do I know? Husband worked/was manager of a bicycle shop for approx. 7 years....sold Trek, Lightspeed, Gary Fisher, Klein, Cannondale, Schwinn, Giant, among other brands.)
When people talk about markup, they are not usually specifying retail markup.
Just because the wholesaler charged you $500 for a bike doesn't mean the bike itself cost $500 to make.
Just look at how many car dealers are willing to sell cars for $50 over invoice, or *gasp*, less than invoice. Because the wholesale invoice price is MEANINGLESS and has nothing to do with the cost to build the car. You can see how plainly obvious this is when a car manufacturer offers $6000 rebates on cars which results in them sell way under invoice.
I'd expect the bike market or the market for any other product sold to be the same.
Originally posted by: Gibson486
I just paid $420 for my bike. Honestly, I never imagined that I'd spend that much on a bike, but decent ones cost that much now. If you spend more than 1k on a bike, you are a serious biker. You ar probably the type that does Pan Mass or something. What really gets me are people who spends over $600 on a commuter/hybrid or those single speed bikes....
Originally posted by: CraigRT
Originally posted by: Riceninja
yeah, i know ppl making 40k a year that blow 2000 on a bike. i lol'd hard. like dude...you're barely paying the rent.
I love how people just don't get other people and their interests ever.. I'm a student, I have almost no money, but I make sure to have a nice bike because it's my #1 interest and my favorite thing to do with my time, bar none.. Cycling is my life..
my income, less than $20k/year, mountain bike, ~$3000ish (CAD)
Originally posted by: thescreensavers
I got my mountain bike for $120 its one of the store built ones. I took it to a bike shop a few months later they rebuilt the bike and re-oiled shit for like 20 bucks and the bike was completely different in a good way. But I haven't used my bike in like a year so its sitting the garage.
Originally posted by: GrantMeThePower
Selling a car is very different.
Invoice really IS invoice-to the dealership. The dealership is privately owned.
The reasons they do that are manufacturer incentives. Either direct cash to the customer or through incentives to the dealerships based on quotas.
Originally posted by: RadioHead84
You are gimping yourself so much by just having one gear its just silly. The only reason I can think of that would make anyone want to buy a single geared bike is because they are easy to fix...
Originally posted by: RadioHead84
It has been pretty much covered but I'll pop in here just cause I love bikes.
I have an entry level road bike. If you want any kind of good road bike its going to start at 650. If you have never been on a road bike, then you don't know what the difference is between a cruiser from wallmart and gliding across the road.
As others have stated...you can get a good bike for 1000...but with anything it is diminishing returns as you keep paying for more.
I think a lot goes into making a well built bike that justifies it's cost. Also, they hold their value for a pretty good amount of time.
The bikes that annoy me are the hipster single gear bikes that are all around the city. I know it looks cool and fits into your style of lifestyle, but many hipsters are all about being cheap, drinking pbr and such, so a 600 dollar bike does not really fit into that picture. Why a single gear bike?? You are gimping yourself so much by just having one gear its just silly. The only reason I can think of that would make anyone want to buy a single geared bike is because they are easy to fix...but getting your biked tuned once a year is pretty cheap, and if you know anything about bikes you can do it yourself no problem.
Fixed gear is another story cause you can really cruise on those...
Originally posted by: Riceninja
yeah, i know ppl making 40k a year that blow 2000 on a bike. i lol'd hard. like dude...you're barely paying the rent.
Originally posted by: rdubbz420
I ride fixed. where i live NoVA there aren't enough hills to justify the need to gear down. if I'm hauling a lot of shit, i use my geared cx bike. even when I do group rides or races I usually leave my ti road bike home and take my track bike. at 85 gear inches it's damn fast. I aint no hipster either.
Originally posted by: Safeway
Originally posted by: kalrith
Bicycle prices have skyrocketed over the past few years. If you compare the price of a top-of-the-line Trek mountain bike today to what the price of a top-of-the-line Trek mountain bike was 4 years ago, it's about double. My mountain bike was $600 in 1995, and I've put about $1,000 more into it (shock; clipless pedals; nice wheels; and most-recently having to replace the brakes, brake levers, and shifters). I'd say it's been well worth the money, but I wouldn't say the same thing about a lot of the high-end bikes today.
LOL, no. Four years ago, the top of the line was still $10,000.
Originally posted by: kalrith
Originally posted by: Safeway
Originally posted by: kalrith
Bicycle prices have skyrocketed over the past few years. If you compare the price of a top-of-the-line Trek mountain bike today to what the price of a top-of-the-line Trek mountain bike was 4 years ago, it's about double. My mountain bike was $600 in 1995, and I've put about $1,000 more into it (shock; clipless pedals; nice wheels; and most-recently having to replace the brakes, brake levers, and shifters). I'd say it's been well worth the money, but I wouldn't say the same thing about a lot of the high-end bikes today.
LOL, no. Four years ago, the top of the line was still $10,000.
That's odd. According to Trek's current website the Top Fuel full-suspension mountain bike has an MSRP of $7,150, whereas according to the Wayback Machine the Top Fuel full-suspension mountain bike was $3,850 in January 2005.
Originally posted by: InflatableBuddha
As a comparison, think of the $400 PC that's only good for Internet and office work vs. the $1000 gaming PC that plays most games well vs. the $3000 beast of a machine that gets you only an extra 5 FPS at 1920x1080.
Originally posted by: PieIsAwesome
Originally posted by: InflatableBuddha
As a comparison, think of the $400 PC that's only good for Internet and office work vs. the $1000 gaming PC that plays most games well vs. the $3000 beast of a machine that gets you only an extra 5 FPS at 1920x1080.
My $400 PC can play most games very well.
Originally posted by: Safeway
Originally posted by: PieIsAwesome
Originally posted by: InflatableBuddha
As a comparison, think of the $400 PC that's only good for Internet and office work vs. the $1000 gaming PC that plays most games well vs. the $3000 beast of a machine that gets you only an extra 5 FPS at 1920x1080.
My $400 PC can play most games very well.
Not anything from the last 2 years. :roll:
Originally posted by: PieIsAwesome
Originally posted by: Safeway
Originally posted by: PieIsAwesome
Originally posted by: InflatableBuddha
As a comparison, think of the $400 PC that's only good for Internet and office work vs. the $1000 gaming PC that plays most games well vs. the $3000 beast of a machine that gets you only an extra 5 FPS at 1920x1080.
My $400 PC can play most games very well.
Not anything from the last 2 years. :roll:
e5200@3.75ghz 4GB DDR2 and 4830- it most definitely can.