Nice - MWAVE some XP cpu's w/ free soyo board

[xenolith]

Originally posted by: Curto

Originally posted by: Bookmage
The motherboard needs both power connectors to run. The athlon xps require more power than the normal atx connector gives.
You run the risk of burning out the processor or the motherboard.
I picked up a cheap htpc case off ebay for 60$. It came with a 300w psu w/p4 connector.

My problem is that windows 2k and xp does not work with it. I keep getting code 35 errors in xp because it cannot get enough information from the firmware to activate the device. windows 2000 just keeps getting errors saying it can't change the video settings or update settings with anything. Linux appears to be working fine, but I would like to find out what if anyone has had these problems with the motherboard.

How can you say athlon xps require more power than the normal atx connector gives... I have 2 machines running right now... one with a 1600+ XP, other with a 2600+ XP... one has a Asus A7V8X and the other has a Asus A7N8X Deluxe... neither motherboard has the p4 connector.... I really doubt that two standard asus motherboards (KT400 and nForce2 chipset based) would be lacking a supposedly required feature that would cause the processor or motherboard to burn out.

I was asking if the Soyo motherboard requires the p4 connection or not due to some of the comments posted above.

The A7V8X and A7N8X boards use the 5v line to generate the vcore, that's why they don't have or need the "p4 connector". This Soyo board was specifically designed with a seperate 12v line ("p4 connector") to power the vcore regulator. Most if not all new mobos have this design change because the 5v lines were becoming overstressed by faster, more power hungery CPU's.

Edit: Make sure you guys who are having problems with this board have a PSU that has an adequate amperage/wattage rating on the 12v rail.

 

[Curto]

Originally posted by: xenolith

Originally posted by: Curto

Originally posted by: Bookmage
The motherboard needs both power connectors to run. The athlon xps require more power than the normal atx connector gives.
You run the risk of burning out the processor or the motherboard.
I picked up a cheap htpc case off ebay for 60$. It came with a 300w psu w/p4 connector.

My problem is that windows 2k and xp does not work with it. I keep getting code 35 errors in xp because it cannot get enough information from the firmware to activate the device. windows 2000 just keeps getting errors saying it can't change the video settings or update settings with anything. Linux appears to be working fine, but I would like to find out what if anyone has had these problems with the motherboard.

How can you say athlon xps require more power than the normal atx connector gives... I have 2 machines running right now... one with a 1600+ XP, other with a 2600+ XP... one has a Asus A7V8X and the other has a Asus A7N8X Deluxe... neither motherboard has the p4 connector.... I really doubt that two standard asus motherboards (KT400 and nForce2 chipset based) would be lacking a supposedly required feature that would cause the processor or motherboard to burn out.

I was asking if the Soyo motherboard requires the p4 connection or not due to some of the comments posted above.

The A7V8X and A7N8X boards use the 5v line to generate the vcore, that's why they don't have or need the "p4 connector". This Soyo board was specifically designed with a seperate 12v line ("p4 connector") to power the vcore regulator. Most if not all new mobos have this design change because the 5v lines were becoming overstressed by faster, more power hungery CPU's.

Edit: Make sure you guys who are having problems with this board have a PSU that has an adequate amperage/wattage rating on the 12v rail.

OK... gotcha I haven't used anything newer than my a7n8x so this is new to me... do most atx power supplies come with that extra connector?

I'd check the psu I'm going to use... but it just got picked by fedex to be delivered back to mwave for replacement... had a nice dent in the side when it first arrived

 

[trevinom]

Originally posted by: Curto

Originally posted by: xenolith

Originally posted by: Curto

Originally posted by: Bookmage
The motherboard needs both power connectors to run. The athlon xps require more power than the normal atx connector gives.
You run the risk of burning out the processor or the motherboard.
I picked up a cheap htpc case off ebay for 60$. It came with a 300w psu w/p4 connector.

My problem is that windows 2k and xp does not work with it. I keep getting code 35 errors in xp because it cannot get enough information from the firmware to activate the device. windows 2000 just keeps getting errors saying it can't change the video settings or update settings with anything. Linux appears to be working fine, but I would like to find out what if anyone has had these problems with the motherboard.

How can you say athlon xps require more power than the normal atx connector gives... I have 2 machines running right now... one with a 1600+ XP, other with a 2600+ XP... one has a Asus A7V8X and the other has a Asus A7N8X Deluxe... neither motherboard has the p4 connector.... I really doubt that two standard asus motherboards (KT400 and nForce2 chipset based) would be lacking a supposedly required feature that would cause the processor or motherboard to burn out.

I was asking if the Soyo motherboard requires the p4 connection or not due to some of the comments posted above.

The A7V8X and A7N8X boards use the 5v line to generate the vcore, that's why they don't have or need the "p4 connector". This Soyo board was specifically designed with a seperate 12v line ("p4 connector") to power the vcore regulator. Most if not all new mobos have this design change because the 5v lines were becoming overstressed by faster, more power hungery CPU's.

Edit: Make sure you guys who are having problems with this board have a PSU that has an adequate amperage/wattage rating on the 12v rail.

OK... gotcha I haven't used anything newer than my a7n8x so this is new to me... do most atx power supplies come with that extra connector?

I'd check the psu I'm going to use... but it just got picked by fedex to be delivered back to mwave for replacement... had a nice dent in the side when it first arrived

HOLY CRAP Batman!!

I didn't know this...learn something new every day. I had hooked up my new ATX PSU that I had purchased from MPJA at the following linky: PC Power & Cooling 200W 1U Power Supply, $5 @ MPJA

I then tried a 200W ATX PSU that I had lying around (didn't have P4 connector) and didn't work. So I sent it back yesterday afternoon. I wish I could recall it.

bummer...

I have another MB, an ABIT KR7A that is also not booting up with a XP1700 CPU. I wonder if it's having the same problem. I put the XP2600+ into this ABIT board and it booted up although it ran it at 1825mhz. It stopped working after a day thought and hasn't wanted to boot up since.

 

[dafoomie]

Tried it on a 300w and 350w power supply, both with the extra connector, nothing yet. Will probably have to return both since I haven't made either work. CPU in another board didn't work, and another cpu in that board didnt work.

 

[1Cheap2Crazy]

I'm up and running Whoohooo. I lost a boatload of videos but I don't care. Nothing important. I had to reformt my HD since neither XP or SuSE would boot up. I purchased some new RAM at OM and also booted up with out any drives attached. I got into the BIOS, I knew then I was on my way. But I didn't know that that would mean losing both my C and D drives. I must have done something wrong, but I don't care anymore. Then did a clean install of XP. My Antec 300W power supply seems to be enough.

CPUid says I have an Athlon Xp 2600+ , FSB of 166, Bus Speed 332. Does that sound correct?

I have one stick of Spectek 512MB RAM(PC2700), XP and CPUid say I have 480MB of memory. Is that a problem? Is that normal to be that far off?

Thanks for your help people and thanks to the OP. And for those of you that may still be having problems, please stick with it, it only took me about a total of 15 hours over 5 days!!!

 

[winr]

1Cheap2Crazy, are you using onboard video and if so how much memory is assigned to it?

Also, I installed XP PRO on mine and AGP card, nic, sound and USB have problems, XP says "Computer firmware doesnt recognize components"
Windows 98SE worked without any problems.

good luck everyone.






:sun:

 

[Curto]

Originally posted by: 1Cheap2Crazy
I'm up and running Whoohooo. I lost a boatload of videos but I don't care. Nothing important. I had to reformt my HD since neither XP or SuSE would boot up. I purchased some new RAM at OM and also booted up with out any drives attached. I got into the BIOS, I knew then I was on my way. But I didn't know that that would mean losing both my C and D drives. I must have done something wrong, but I don't care anymore. Then did a clean install of XP. My Antec 300W power supply seems to be enough.

CPUid says I have an Athlon Xp 2600+ , FSB of 166, Bus Speed 332. Does that sound correct?

I have one stick of Spectek 512MB RAM(PC2700), XP and CPUid say I have 480MB of memory. Is that a problem? Is that normal to be that far off?

Thanks for your help people and thanks to the OP. And for those of you that may still be having problems, please stick with it, it only took me about a total of 15 hours over 5 days!!!

if you bought a 2600+ then yes that's right

it'll show as 480MB ram as the board has onboard video which shares system ram... in the bios there should (most likely) be a option to set how much ram it can use... your's right now is set on 32MB.

Once my replacement case gets here I'll let you know how mine goes

 

[1Cheap2Crazy]

Since I'm only using onboard graphics and 512-480 is 32MB it must be the graphics. Thanks for answering that.

BTW after running for about 6 hours, my PC with 2 HDs, has temps of CHA 37 and CPU 44. From what I've read that's normal. I've never had a PC with monitoring software, cool.

 

[Armitage]

Mine is working fine with Win2k ... I got the 2800 and a 256MB stick of the mwave ram. No problems. I didn't notice the default jumper position on the MB is 100MHz though, so right now I'm underclocked until I get around to popping the lid off again.

 

[Bookmage]

winr: I had the same computer firmware does not recognize device (code 35)
in windows xp. I tried windows 2k and I had some other problems. So I installed fedora
linux and it worked.
So I reinstalled windows xp and this time, installed the drivers in the order on the list of the cd.
via 4in1 drivers, video, sound, lan, hardware monitor. I found a file on the cd after digging
folder by folder and that was the order of install. Once I installed it that way, it worked fine.
USB 2.0 requires Windows XP SP1.

 

[winr]

Thanks Bookmage.

I will try XP and the drivers again that way.


EDIT:
Doh, I forgot!!! "Thank you"!!!!.......TipsyMcStagger


Regards.

 

[trevinom]

Has anyone gotten their RMA'ed MB back from Mwave?

 

[1Cheap2Crazy]

A few more questions:

Is it necessary to upgrade the BIOS? If so, which one do I use? exe, bin, or zip? I probably won't do this but thought I ask.

I run a very clean PC, adaware and spybot very rarely find anything. I disabled the AudioDeck from starting up, but after upgrading the drivers from the Soyo website I get something call VTTimer.exe starting up in the msconfig box. Does anyone know what this is? Is it safe to disable? Google results shows it's spyware, but I don't notice anything odd about my PC. It not listed under processes. My firewall has never popped up and I'm also behind a router. So I think it has something to do with VIA, but am not sure if I can disable it.

Thanks

 

[Armitage]

Originally posted by: ergeorge
Mine is working fine with Win2k ... I got the 2800 and a 256MB stick of the mwave ram. No problems. I didn't notice the default jumper position on the MB is 100MHz though, so right now I'm underclocked until I get around to popping the lid off again.

Moved the jumper ... everything still OK

 

[GTFan]

My board and CPU installed just fine in the Foxconn Supercase Mwave was selling for $20. Man that case is huge for this board, way overkill. I did not have any probs at all with bootup once I had the CPU speed jumper set correctly. I've got the XP2600 overclocked now to a 2800 with stock voltage and cooling (180 FSB, 2.25 Ghz CPU). Could go higher but I'm waiting on an Arctic Cooler CPU fan from Newegg, the cheapo one that Mwave supplied sounds like a jet engine, *way* too loud. Cools ok tho. System boots and runs XP very quickly with a Maxtor 160 Gig that I got on some other deal.
To the guy that can't get XP or 2000 to run correctly, make sure that you load all the drivers from the Soyo CD, I've not had any probs with XP after loading all of them. You have to reboot after every load except for LAN drivers I think (VIA 4-in-1, audio, video).

Overall a decent price (less than $200, all components included) for a decent system.

 

[winr]

1Cheap2Crazy, when you boot up see if your bios is "2AA2"
That is the latest.


Bookmage, I had to enable "ACIP aware OS" in the bios and the drivers loaded fine.

I hope all get their combos working!!





:sun:

 

[kalster]

the agp on this says 1.5v


what does that mean?

can i buy a regular ti4200 or radeon 9500pro and use it?

 

[Dantzig]

Originally posted by: kalster
the agp on this says 1.5v


what does that mean?

can i buy a regular ti4200 or radeon 9500pro and use it?

Yes, those will be fine. More info

 

[zaph]

Hate to disappoint everyone here, but i got 2 of the 2600 combos , put them in 20.00 shipped cases with thier cheap power supplies (from ebuyer) a stick of 256MB spectek 2700 DDR and a cdrom and HD, and im up and running with no problems.

 

[Hyperfocal]

Originally posted by: zaph
Hate to disappoint everyone here, but i got 2 of the 2600 combos , put them in 20.00 shipped cases with thier cheap power supplies (from ebuyer) a stick of 256MB spectek 2700 DDR and a cdrom and HD, and im up and running with no problems.

Hope mine works, I just broke down and got one as a new F@H box.

 

[Dantzig]

Oh and mine is working great with an Athlon 1900+, 512MB RAM, Radeon 8500, and 2 PCI cards in one of these.

 

[kof]

A brag and moan and actual experience:
Got the 2600 combo for $81 on March 22nd
Trying for rebate.
Put the CPU in my son's running system - Antec case w/ 350 PSU, 1 stick 512mb DDR2100, MSI K7n2G, - no fire no screen.
Swapped his 2000CPU back in - it ran for a few days - till he diddled with it and fried something.
Finally set up the bare m/b, CPU, his ram, 450W PSU - fired up fine even with the boot drive out of his system.
Should have gotten 3 of them

 

[zaph]

Dantzig, i liked the look of those cases so much i ordered me a pair for the boards i got

 

[kenrippy]

Originally posted by: zaph
Hate to disappoint everyone here, but i got 2 of the 2600 combos , put them in 20.00 shipped cases with thier cheap power supplies (from ebuyer) a stick of 256MB spectek 2700 DDR and a cdrom and HD, and im up and running with no problems.

no disappointment here, those case & psu's work fine for me too. this isn't an ECS board so there should be a much better success rate. I haven't installed mine yet, but I have all the ingredients sittin here...(ebuyer case, 1x512mb spectek pc2700, 80gb seagate, 2400+)

 

[winr]

Has anyone received a chipped cpu.

The first 2600 had a couple of chips on the edge of the core and bent pins,it wouldnt go in the socket, I straightened themout and it ran ok.
I called Mwave and they said they would send me another one.
The exchange cpu has chips all around the core, the pins look a little also.
I should have kept the first one.

The mobo and extra fans I ordered from Mwave work great!!

Thanks.