Nike Nixes 'Betsy Ross Flag' Shoe After Kaepernick Intervenes

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Nike Inc. is yanking a U.S.A.-themed sneaker featuring an early American flag after NFL star-turned-activist Colin Kaepernick told the company it shouldn’t sell a shoe with a symbol that he and others consider offensive, according to people familiar with the matter.

The sneaker giant created the Air Max 1 USA in celebration of the July Fourth holiday, and it was slated to go on sale this week. The heel of the shoe featured a U.S. flag with 13 white stars in a circle, a design created during the American Revolution and commonly referred to as the Betsy Ross flag.

After shipping the shoes to retailers, Nike asked for them to be returned without explaining why, the people said. The shoes aren’t available on Nike’s own apps and websites.

“Nike has chosen not to release the Air Max 1 Quick Strike Fourth of July as it featured the old version of the American flag,” a Nike spokeswoman said.
 

K1052

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The governor of AZ is making the state a safe space for...old flags we don't use anymore that were appropriated by problematic causes by withdrawing incentives for Nike to....make its products in AZ. Economic anxiety caused Trumpism and whatnot.


https://www.abc15.com/sports/govern...-amid-betsy-ross-colin-kaepernick-controversy


In a series of tweets early Tuesday, Arizona Governor Doug Ducey announced that he has ordered the Arizona Commerce Authority to withdraw all financial incentive dollars to encourage Nike to add a manufacturing plant in the Valley.

Ducey's decision stems from a Wall Street Journal report that said former NFL quarterback-turned-social justice activist Colin Kaepernick convinced Nike to pull its sneakers featuring an early American flagcommonly known as the Betsy Ross flag. Kaepernick reportedly found the shoe to be offensive.

"Nike has chosen not to release the Air Max 1 Quick Strike Fourth of July as it featured an old version of the American flag," Nike said in a statement to CNN Business following the WSJ report.

Nike has planned a massive shoe manufacturing plant in Goodyear, with an initial investment of $184.5 million. The plant would create over 500 full-time jobs.


"Instead of celebrating American history the week of our nation’s independence, Nike has apparently decided that Betsy Ross is unworthy, and has bowed to the current onslaught of political correctness and historical revisionism. It is a shameful retreat for the company. American businesses should be proud of our country’s history, not abandoning it.

"Nike has made its decision, and now we’re making ours. I’ve ordered the Arizona Commerce Authority to withdraw all financial incentive dollars under their discretion that the State was providing for the company to locate here. Arizona’s economy is doing just fine without Nike. We don’t need to suck up to companies that consciously denigrate our nation’s history.
 
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dank69

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Decided that Betsy Ross is unworthy. Yeah, that's the takeaway. Cutting off their nose to spite their face. Just another day ending in y.
 
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I had a lot of words on this...but just decided to settle on "What?"

And this is why we can't have nice things.
 
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IronWing

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Did my brand new NB shoes with the American flags on the tongues just become more valuable? Should I stop wearing them?

Did Nike just manage to create the dumbest controversy of the week in a dumb week of dumbly dumb dumbness? Did Ducey double down the dumb?

The Age of Derp is headache inducing.
 

brycejones

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Honestly don’t care either way. Anyone making this a controversy is just looking for crap to whine about.
 

dank69

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Sorry, but when white supremacists co-opt a symbol, it's no longer a good idea to use it anymore. We all understand this when it comes to the swastika, so it shouldn't surprise anyone when the same paradigm applies to the confederate flag, pepe, and the Ross flag.
 
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While I'm kinda "eehhhh" about the reasoning, they are remaining consistent, so I do find that admirable.
 

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It seems like there are some additional reasons to avoid putting it on a mass-market shoe:
https://www.bbc.com/news/business-48840608
And if they decide to use the American flag or other symbols considered non offensive today are we going to ask for them to be banned too, who are they (white supremacists, nazi's, etc.)to decide and why should we let them,

as for NIKE, the poster boy for exploitation of child labor and corporate virtue signaler, ironic that they are recalling the Betsy Ross flag sneakers because some people think that is the new Confederate flag promoting slavery.

How Nike Uses Liberal Multiculturalism to Hide Abuse

“If people say your dreams are crazy…” an unseen man says in the new Nike ad. On screen, a child wrestler with a leg amputation goes for the win, a Muslim woman boxes and a refugee scores for the national team. “Good,” the voice says. “Stay that way.”


The ad cuts to Colin Kaepernick, the NFL quarterback blacklisted for kneeling during the national anthem to protest the police killings of unarmed Black people. It is a breathtaking moment. It is also a liberal alibi for massive, ongoing harm.


Behind the Nike swoosh is the struggle of a million workers who stitch Nike shoes and gear. They are part of the 70 million-strong global garment industry workforce, fighting for better pay and conditions even as their jobs are automated. When we buy Nike’s seemingly rebellious liberalism, we buy into reformist politics that excludes their dream, which is to earn a living wage.
Express Yourself

“Yo man, your Jordans are fucked up,” the friend taunted Buggin Out, whose Nikes were scuffed by a passerby. Everyone in the theater laughed. It was 1989 and we sat spellbound by Spike Lee’s Do the Right Thing because the scene reflected our lives. People took their shoes way too seriously. It was why I never wore Nikes. I had friends who were robbed at gunpoint and walked home in socks.


Why the violence? It’s not just a ’90s thing. It happens now. The answer: People hunger for status. They stare at athletes and celebrities, who float in a world of wealth. Stars wear nice clothes and glittering watches. They drive cars like spaceships on wheels. If we can’t be them, we can at least wear what they wear and borrow the décor of their lifestyles.


Since the 1920s advertising revolution, capitalism has sold commodities by associating them with an identity. Edward Bernays, “the father of public relations,” began this with World War I propaganda and then sold his “psychological warfare” to American companies. He framed their products not as things to answer needs but as symbols to satisfy desires. He wrote in his 1928 book Propaganda, “A thing may be desired not for its intrinsic worth or usefulness, but because [a person] has unconsciously come to see in it a symbol.”


Advertising sold people symbols like instant food, which signified modern convenience, or soap “scientifically” guaranteed to kill germs. Each generation found its desire for safety or upward mobility or rebellion quickly commodified. In the television series Mad Men, 1960s ad executive Don Draper’s meditation led to the “I Like to Buy the World a Coke” commercial. A Coke is just corn syrup and water in a bottle, but in the alchemy of advertising, it was reborn as a symbol of the Hippie Counter Culture.


Six decades after the release of Bernays’s book, Nike tapped into his propaganda model for its 1988 Just Do It campaign. It made sneakers into symbols of American independence. The first ad showed an 80-year-old man cheerfully jogging the Golden Gate Bridge. Nike sold an athletic Horatio Alger story where normal people lift themselves up with extreme effort. The human spirit shined through sweat-soaked faces.


Three decades later, Nike relaunched the Just Do It campaign. Today, capitalism is global and it must respond to the collective desire of an audience beyond America. Again, Nike tapped into the Horatio Alger lift-yourself-up mythos, but now the achievement is not just athletic prowess but a multicultural liberalism. In Nike’s new ad, refugees become national superstars. A young woman is both homecoming queen and football player. A young Black girl from Compton reigns supreme in tennis. Finally, Colin Kaepernick looks into the camera and poof, Nike becomes a symbol of justice.


Yet it isn’t. Take a look at the label. You can read where the factories are located. They are where a struggle involving millions of people won’t be made into any commercial.

Behind the Swoosh

Indonesia. Vietnam. Honduras. I thumbed through labels at Macy’s. Every shoe had a Nike swoosh. Every shirt had a number like Michael Jordan’s 23 or a famous American face on the front. Yet when I looked inside, the labels all pointed back to Global South nations.


Nike sells rebellion to Global North consumers through the faces of well-paid celebrities on its apparel while its goods are made primarily by people in the Global South who barely eke out a living. When they fight for better wages or working conditions, their heroism does not make them eligible to become rebels, mythologized in Nike’s ads.


Nike is a criminal enterprise. Capitalism is a system of theft and Nike is a near-perfect model of it. Phil Knight, the founder and CEO has a net worth of nearly $35 billion. Jordan earned $100 million from Nike and other deals. Lebron James signed a lifetime deal with Nike worth over a billion. Now Kaepernick is next in line for more ads, a sneaker line and jerseys — all of which will add up to a pretty penny.


Where does this vast sum of money come from? Nike is a corporate vacuum sucking up the surplus value from workers. It has a million laborers, mostly women, in 42 nations, including Indonesia, Vietnam and Bangladesh. Each country gets paid its own rate. Workers line up in rows near conveyor belts or sewing machines for long hours. In Indonesia, the assemblers get paid $3.50 per day. In Vietnam, they are paid around $42 a week or $171 per month.


The workers receive anything close to the product’s final value. When a Nike sneaker is put on the store shelf, it gets a near 43 percent retail markup and consumers in the Global North buy it for nearly a $100. Our money goes to store employees, managers, regional managers, the CEO, celebrity advertising and the accounts of stockholders. The workers — mainly women in the Global South — who are exposed to toxic chemicals, faint from heat, forced to work overtime and whose wages are sometimes stolen — never see that much-needed money.


This system has many apologists, including among liberals. The New York Times’ Nicholas Kristoff infamously wrote a series of articles saying in essence, sweatshops are good. “People always ask me: But would you want to work in a sweatshop,” he wrote in a 2009 Op-Ed, “No, of course not. But I would want even less to pull a rickshaw. In the hierarchy of jobs in poor countries, sweltering at a sewing machine isn’t the bottom.”


He is right in the short term, but his limited, liberal imagination doesn’t see the longer trajectory of capitalism. Nike already has enough money to raise the pay of workers to more than a living wage. Instead, it chose to move out of nations with rising wage demands like China to go to Vietnam, where labor is cheaper.


Meanwhile, new 3D printing technology is making fully automated factories possible. Sweatshops could become obsolete — along with the workers who currently depend on them for survival. Against this, people protest. They fight to keep the jobs they have. In Indonesia, demonstrations against Nike cutting orders were held in 2007. One sign read, “Nike is a Blood Sucking Vampire.” In July 2017, workers and students held a Global Day of Action Against Nike after a watchdog group, Workers Rights Consortium, got inside a Nike plant in Hansae, Vietnam, and found wage theft, padlocked doors and workers fainting from heat.


In San Pedro Sula, Honduras, the SITRASTAR union protested outside of the Nike factory and store after the company stopped production at their factory. More than 350 union members were jobless. “If there is no peace for us,” union leader Waldin Reyes shouted, “Let there be no peace for them.”


It shows the double bind of Global South workers. They have to fight for higher pay and humane conditions and fight to keep the sweatshops. Without them, they’d plummet into severe poverty.


Unlike the customers buying Nike for an imaginary status of rebellion, here are people fighting for a very real goal: survival.

The People’s Shoe

“Don’t believe you have to be like anybody,” Kaepernick says in the ad, “To be somebody.” We see a brain tumor survivor who ran the Ironman race and Lebron opening a new school. Each mini-story is a triumph over great odds. Kaepernick’s soulful stare sells the ad because he sacrificed his career to silently protest innocent Black people being killed by the state.


It worked. Once more, Americans line up to buy Nike’s symbolic rebellion. Sales spiked after the new ad. It makes me uneasy. In the ’90s, impressionable youth bought Nikes because they represented athletic glory and status. Now I fear some will buy them because they’re convinced by Nike’s suggestion that they represent the struggle against anti-Black police violence.


Too often, they can’t afford the sneakers. Nike’s CEO and the stockholders are at the center of a vast money vacuum. They exploit low-wage workers at the factory floor and exploit customers, many of whom are youth of color, who are desperate to buy meaning for their lives.


Imagine a different ad. One where a union leader like Waldin Reyes smiles on screen and proudly holds up The People’s Shoe, a sneaker line made by a worker’s cooperative. No billion-dollar CEO. No billion-dollar celebrities. Instead the workers wave to the camera as they leave the shop early to see their children. The camera follows one woman to her brightly lit home. Her clothes are drying on the line as her family sits at a long table, laughing and eating. She takes a People’s Shoe, shows it to the camera and says, “Just Organize.”
 

IronWing

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Sorry, but when white supremacists co-opt a symbol, it's no longer a good idea to use it anymore. We all understand this when it comes to the swastika, so it shouldn't surprise anyone when the same paradigm applies to the confederate flag, pepe, and the Ross flag.
White supremacists haven't yet co-opted the thirteen star flag and won't, unless we let them. Most folks over the age of ~45 associate that flag with the America's bicentennial bash and to hell with the white supremacists if they want to take it from us.
 
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White supremacists haven't yet co-opted the thirteen star flag and won't, unless we let them. Most folks over the age of ~45 associate that flag with the America's bicentennial bash and to hell with the white supremacists if they want to take it from us.
I am curious, how do we prevent them from co-opting a symbol? This information could have saved Pepe.
 

hal2kilo

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Never owned their riduculously overpriced shoes, but, I really don't care. Not sure why Nike would do this. Not a good look for the company. Don't really know who is offended. Stupid over reaction. Somehow though we know this is because libruls.
 

IronWing

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I am curious, how do we prevent them from co-opting a symbol? This information could have saved Pepe.
Use the symbol. An existing symbol can only become tied to a certain group if that is the only group that uses it.
 

Jaskalas

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Score another point for the "Kaepernick is attacking America" narrative.

First the anthem, now the (past) flag.
 

glenn1

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It's an extremely tenuous linkage but substituting a different flag pattern seems like a trivially easy remedy. This to me is sorta like when folks got mad at a professor for using the word "niggardly" in a lecture once because it sounds like another completely different word starting with the same letter - it was sort of a contrived complaint but like this "Betsy Ross" flag it creates no hardship whatsoever to not use the flag/word anymore and everyone is happy.
 

trenchfoot

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Whatever shoes of that production run that gets past the recall is going to be of some value at the swap meets.

Other than that, good call on Nike's part, not wanting to be involved in any kind of controversy.
 

trenchfoot

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By creating one?


Yeh I thought of that while posting. It really is a numbers kind of thing as far as Nike is concerned though.

I'm sure their bean counters jumped right into the middle of it and calculated what side of the issue Nike should take a stand on based on profit/loss

And then there's the idea of Nike remaining true to their philosophy on the ethics morals side of the equation.

edit - As well, that the Arizona governor decided to make an issue of it for political points reminds me of Papa John and his stab at making his pizza business a political issue that spectacularly backfired on him.
 

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Isn't this a violation of the flag code? I'm not 100% on the code section, but doesn't it require that the flag not be used for merchandising and on clothing etc. Shoes would be a good example since they get stepped on. shouldn't there be some patriotic outrage over the flag code violations?
 

IronWing

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Isn't this a violation of the flag code? I'm not 100% on the code section, but doesn't it require that the flag not be used for merchandising and on clothing etc. Shoes would be a good example since they get stepped on. shouldn't there be some patriotic outrage over the flag code violations?
The “flag code “ only applies to government agencies. Private parties can do as they see fit.
 
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