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Vic

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So today the conservatives are aiming to get to get a 6-3 majority in the Supreme Court while the "liberal media" conveniently distracts everyone with this fluff piece.
Believing what they see is not most people's strong suit. And that's the real fact
 

fskimospy

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This is by far the most important post about this. Trump is coming right out and saying that while he will furiously criticize the NFL for employing people who kneel during the anthem he will not criticize Nike for hiring the guy who started it all because they pay him lots of money.

Ie: he is giving any company who doesn’t want Trump to go after them an easy way out - bribe him.
 
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1prophet

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Gullible righty morons let themselves be brainwashed into thinking taking a knee to protest injustice is more disrespectful then trashing a 5 year POW because he was captured

No more than gullible than lefty morons who let themselves be brainwashed into thinking that a slave wage sweatshop corporation is cool because it joins in on the latest identity politics fad of the moment,

https://qz.com/1042298/nike-is-facing-a-new-wave-of-anti-sweatshop-protests/



Among them are claims that workers at a Nike contract factory in Hansae, Vietnam, suffered wage theft and verbal abuse, and labored for hours in temperatures well over the legal limit of 90 degrees, to the point that they would collapse at their sewing machines. Nike is also accused of cutting jobs at the Hansae factory and pulling production from a factory in Honduras with a strong union presence, resulting in hundreds of workers losing vital jobs. The company has also allegedly denied the independent monitoring group Worker Rights Consortium (WRC) access to inspect its contract factories. The WRC was founded in 2000 by universities, international labor rights experts, and student groups, including USAS, to ensure that products bearing university logos were made under conditions that respected workers’ rights. (The organization says it had no part in the USAS protests.)

The WRC issue could become a serious one for Nike. The sneaker giant owns a major part of what the WRC estimates is a $4 billion retail market for university-logo products, the largest share of which is apparel. Georgetown, Northeastern, and Rutgers—all among the WRC’s 190 university affiliates—have already cut ties with Nike or said they will allow their contracts to expire due to the company’s stance on factory inspections. The University of Washington, meanwhile, has temporarily extended its expiring contract with Nike as it awaits the outcome of Nike’s mediation with Georgetown. (Update: Nike and Georgetown announced an agreement on Aug. 30 that gives the WRC formal access to Nike supplier factories making products for WRC affiliates.)
 

HomerJS

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nickqt

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No more than gullible than lefty morons who let themselves be brainwashed into thinking that a slave wage sweatshop corporation is cool because it joins in on the latest identity politics fad of the moment,

https://qz.com/1042298/nike-is-facing-a-new-wave-of-anti-sweatshop-protests/


Being happy that a corporate entity is being slightly more socially responsible isn't a bad thing.

What's hilarious is that right-wing authoritarians happily march into the voting booths multiple times per year to vote in politicians who are attempting to destroy the remaining few regulations that prevent corporations from getting to operate in a FreeMarket™ mode that 100% permits wage-slave labor practices to occur. Because that is what a FreeMarket™ is. Capital either owns or rents people because capital is money is power, since the beginning of humanity.

Regulations of corporations that prevent them from paying wage-slave wages, in inhospitable working conditions, that actively destroy the environments where the natural resources come from, and are processed, is the only thing that the US Republican party currently stands for. This is regardless of whether the Republican is an right-wing authoritarian fascist enabler, a (capital-L) Libertarian with a toddler-level understanding of what constitutes a society, and how that society actually function in real-time objective observable reality, or a classic Republican who wants to preserve traditions that work and gradually develop solutions to problems without disrupting FreeMarket™.

So, who are the gullible, brainwashed idiots here?

The people who nod somewhat approvingly that Nike is slightly less reprehensible because it's taking a commercially-driven choice to support social justice.

Or the people who continue voting for politicians that allow Nike to wield immense power through it's immense wealth to treat everyone besides the Board and Executives like disposable costs to be eliminated as soon as possible?

Keep screamin' at that mirror, collaborator.
 

Vic

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More than some financially successful brown guy peacefully protesting injustice to other brown people while they're watching TV instead of going to church, I think what really pisses off the Trumpers is the Believe in Something slogan. Because they don't appear to believe in anything but themselves.
 

dawp

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I care about as much for what Nike does as I do what CK does. I am sick of all the tribal politics being perpetrated by the media and big corporations...
tribal politics is being perpetrated by the tribal politicians, not the media.
 
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dawp

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Those kids in sweatshops aren't Nike employees.
And you're never going to be able to convince people that Trumpers care about brown kids in faraway countries when Trumpers don't care about brown kids right here in America.
maybe if the trumps didn't use sweatshops to produce their products maybe they'd have a leg to stand on.
 

Greenman

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ROFLMAO!!! How bold of NIKE to hire Colin. What an ethical upright company they are. A model for all other corporations. I wonder if NIKE will ever get woke enough to pay its workers a living wage.



Its funny how just a little virtue signalling can make even the most morally questionable corporations seem suddenly pure.

https://abcnews.go.com/Business/story?id=88176&page=1
You're not supposed to look behind the curtain.
 

Greenman

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Seems like a good move by Nike. Stock takes a short term dip, they get their name on every television, computer screen, and cell phone in the country. Those poor people in the third world that actually make the shoes are going to have to put in some serious hours to keep up with sales. A few of them will be able to afford a pair of Nike's now. It's a win win deal.
 

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So today the conservatives are aiming to get to get a 6-3 majority in the Supreme Court while the "liberal media" conveniently distracts everyone with this fluff piece.
Believing what they see is not most people's strong suit. And that's the real fact

I believe it's a 5-4 v. conservative majority.
 
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I believe it's a 5-4 v. conservative majority.
That doesn’t sound as scary

I have a feeling that after a few bad court decisions we may see a Democrat President add 2 more Justices under the pretense that one seat was stolen and possibly the other seats(s) were appointed by a corrupt President.
I’ll also say all hell will break loose if RBG cannot fulfill her term until the end of Trumps Presidency. She really should have retired during Obama.

*Sorry for the OT rant, thought this was a different thread
 

Starbuck1975

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Politics aside Colin is the most inspirational athlete of this generation?
Exactly. His rise in activism correlated to the decline in his career, and only became a thing after a photographer caught him sulking on the bench during the national anthem.

I would prefer it if Nike chose to recognize or endorse one of the players who authentically took a knee. Or maybe feature both Alejandro Villanueva and Meghan Rapinoe in the 30 year campaign, as there are several dimensions to this.

Regardless, I still purchased a pair of Nike cleats over the weekend because they are a good product and I recognize that the social media politics of major brands is about one thing...making money.
 

emperus

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That doesn’t sound as scary

It is scary. Republicans have had this strategy in place for a while. They have already picked the cases they will appeal up to the Supreme court. Affirmative Action, Roe v. Wade, immigrant rights, etc. etc. There is no difference between a 6-3 Conservative majority and a 5-4 conservative majority when the conservatives generally vote the same way.
 

Starbuck1975

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I have a feeling that after a few bad court decisions we may see a Democrat President add 2 more Justices under the pretense that one seat was stolen and possibly the other seats(s) were appointed by a corrupt President.
I’ll also say all hell will break loose if RBG cannot fulfill her term until the end of Trumps Presidency. She really should have retired during Obama.
There is a lot of alarmism over the Supreme Court. Democrats didn’t play the long game and it will cost them the judiciary. There was far too much arrogance over inevitability.

Having said that, I don’t see Trump pushing any hard right ideologues to the bench. Gorsuch and Kavanaugh are both excellent choices, although I would prefer Trump replace RBG with Garland as a gesture of good will under that scenario. Not going to happen.
 

emperus

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Exactly. His rise in activism correlated to the decline in his career, and only became a thing after a photographer caught him sulking on the bench during the national anthem.

I would prefer it if Nike chose to recognize or endorse one of the players who authentically took a knee. Or maybe feature both Alejandro Villanueva and Meghan Rapinoe in the 30 year campaign, as there are several dimensions to this.

Regardless, I still purchased a pair of Nike cleats over the weekend because they are a good product and I recognize that the social media politics of major brands is about one thing...making money.

I think a lot of people see this from their v. white privileged vantage points. It's hard to step in someone else's shoes and try to understand what this issue is about.
 

Starbuck1975

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It is scary. Republicans have had this strategy in place for a while. They have already picked the cases they will appeal up to the Supreme court. Affirmative Action, Roe v. Wade, immigrant rights, etc. etc. There is no difference between a 6-3 Conservative majority and a 5-4 conservative majority when the conservatives generally vote the same way.
That sounds like the alarmist talking points of the resistance. Conservatives had that majority already with Kennedy. Roberts and Kennedy often served as spoilers to prevent a dramatic shift to the right. Kavanaugh, as the heir to Kennedy’s seat, will do the same.
 
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There is a lot of alarmism over the Supreme Court. Democrats didn’t play the long game and it will cost them the judiciary. There was far too much arrogance over inevitability.

Having said that, I don’t see Trump pushing any hard right ideologues to the bench. Gorsuch and Kavanaugh are both excellent choices, although I would prefer Trump replace RBG with Garland as a gesture of good will under that scenario. Not going to happen.

We’ll see...
I stand by there will be a shit storm if RBG goes, there will be a shit storm for at least 2 Judges in the unlikely but possible event it’s proven Trump accepted Russian help to get elected.
 
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