Nikola Tesla

[91TTZ]

Originally posted by: postmortemIA

Originally posted by: 91TTZ

Originally posted by: postmortemIA

Your point isn't valid, and your example shows it as well.

What would happen if America was discovered one 100 years later? I doubt American countries will be today as they are if that was the case.

Same with AC - if Tesla did not popularize it through practical utilities, then modern era wouldn't have started when it started; it would happen decades, or maybe even centuries later. In other words, you can thank Tesla for being in modern age now.

My point is valid, and my example does show it well. I think it's important for you to realize that Tesla did not invent AC. Many people incorrectly assume that he invented it.

If you read his bio and the history of electricity generation you'll see that companies realized that AC was the future long before Tesla entered the game. He began pushing for AC between 1884 and 1886. However, the fundamental devices used for the transmission for AC power such as the power transformer had already been invented in 1881, and other inventors and companies had already been developing AC. By 1886, Westinghouse was already experimenting with AC transmisisons networks in Pittsburgh, and others had already been installed in Massachusetts and Italy. Only after these events did Tesla begin working with Westinghouse in 1888.

What Tesla contributed was an incremental improvement to the AC system, a system other people had been working on for years.

To state that AC wouldn't have caught on until "decades, or maybe even centuries later" shows complete ignorance about the subject.

Wikipedia disagrees

EDIT: nobody said he discovered AC, he made it possible for everybody to use. He did invent AC motor, a thing that has terrific efficiency.

Wikipedia disagrees? The article you linked to doesn't disagree with anything that I said.

You must really be getting desperate if you pull up an article about AC motors when your original post and the rest of the thread was talking about AC power generation.

In fact, you even said this, which was completely ridiculous:


Same with AC - if Tesla did not popularize it through practical utilities, then modern era wouldn't have started when it started; it would happen decades, or maybe even centuries later. In other words, you can thank Tesla for being in modern age now.

It's completely obvious that you were caught saying something which was wrong, so now you're grasping for straws in an effort to save face. Be a man and admit that you were mistaken.

 

[postmortemIA]

Originally posted by: 91TTZ

Originally posted by: postmortemIA

Originally posted by: 91TTZ

Originally posted by: postmortemIA

Your point isn't valid, and your example shows it as well.

What would happen if America was discovered one 100 years later? I doubt American countries will be today as they are if that was the case.

Same with AC - if Tesla did not popularize it through practical utilities, then modern era wouldn't have started when it started; it would happen decades, or maybe even centuries later. In other words, you can thank Tesla for being in modern age now.

My point is valid, and my example does show it well. I think it's important for you to realize that Tesla did not invent AC. Many people incorrectly assume that he invented it.

If you read his bio and the history of electricity generation you'll see that companies realized that AC was the future long before Tesla entered the game. He began pushing for AC between 1884 and 1886. However, the fundamental devices used for the transmission for AC power such as the power transformer had already been invented in 1881, and other inventors and companies had already been developing AC. By 1886, Westinghouse was already experimenting with AC transmisisons networks in Pittsburgh, and others had already been installed in Massachusetts and Italy. Only after these events did Tesla begin working with Westinghouse in 1888.

What Tesla contributed was an incremental improvement to the AC system, a system other people had been working on for years.

To state that AC wouldn't have caught on until "decades, or maybe even centuries later" shows complete ignorance about the subject.

Wikipedia disagrees

EDIT: nobody said he discovered AC, he made it possible for everybody to use. He did invent AC motor, a thing that has terrific efficiency.

Wikipedia disagrees? The article you linked to doesn't disagree with anything that I said.

You must really be getting desperate if you pull up an article about AC motors when your original post and the rest of the thread was talking about AC power generation.

In fact, you even said this, which was completely ridiculous:


Same with AC - if Tesla did not popularize it through practical utilities, then modern era wouldn't have started when it started; it would happen decades, or maybe even centuries later. In other words, you can thank Tesla for being in modern age now.

It's completely obvious that you were caught saying something which was wrong, so now you're grasping for straws in an effort to save face. Be a man and admit that you were mistaken.

You suck at being an EE and at personal attacks.

Since link is not enough for your mind to understand, let me draw it for you:
Electricity distribution consist of power generation, power transmission, and power use.
Or as wikipedia says in the link I gave you hoping you would understand as an EE:

Introduction of Tesla's motor from 1888 onwards initiated what is sometimes referred to as the Second Industrial Revolution, making possible both the efficient generation and long distance distribution of electrical energy using the alternating current transmission system, also of Tesla's invention (1888).

The AC motor is one of biggest users of AC, thus if it wasn't for it it would be meaningless to use AC.
Since believe or not, and somehow you failed to learn this in your school, AC motor and AC power generator are VERY similar things. And yes, thanks to his AC motor, Tesla made advances in AC power generators. Tesla also made advances in distribution of power.

So Tesla made advanced in whole AC system, for generation through distribution and finally with use.

It is obvious you failed to learn this in school. I still see that you don't know what Tesla did about whole AC thing. Maybe this will help. EE is wide area, I don't blame you, power systems are not most popular.

Once again, there's nothing wrong about saying that Tesla did popularize AC systems. I never said that Tsla invented AC, and you keep repeating that like a robot.

 

[91TTZ]

Originally posted by: postmortemIA

You suck at being an EE and at personal attacks.


Electricity distribution consist of power generation, power transmission, and power use.
Or as wikipedia says in the link I gave you hoping you would understand as an EE

You want to talk about fail? Show me where I said that I'm an EE.

I never denied his contributions to the AC, I just noticed that Tesla worship is a fad for people in the high school/college age group.

BTW, I'm still waiting for you to back up your ridiculous claim:

Same with AC - if Tesla did not popularize it through practical utilities, then modern era wouldn't have started when it started; it would happen decades, or maybe even centuries later.

Do you really think that nobody else would have invented what he did? Considering the amount of interest in AC at the time, do you really think it would have taken them decades or even centuries to invent it? Let me drop a couple of bits of knowledge on you:

1. Galileo Ferraris independently researched the rotary magnetic field in 1885. Ferraris experimented with types of asynchronous electric motors. The research resulated in the development of an alternating-current motor. In 1888, Ferraris published his research in a paper to the Royal Academy of Sciences in Turin (the same year that Tesla gained U.S. Patent 381,968 ).

2. Michail Osipovich Dolivo-Dobrovolsky later invented a three-phase "cage-rotor" in 1890. This type of motor is now used for the vast majority of commercial applications.


The preceding bits of info were taken from here


You're delusional.

 

[SagaLore]

Without Tesla, our technology would not be where it is at today. We'd have a very different infrastructure...

I agree, he should be added to required reading.