Nine year old black girl is bullied with racist taunts from classmates, hangs herself.

[SlowSpyder]

That's because he's a dishonest, hypocritical person who can never, ever admit he's wrong or acknowledge that Trump is less than a perfect decision maker. Having a rational, sympathetic argument requires that the other side be rational and sympathetic. Slow is neither of those things; he really is the person who would still vote for Trump if the man was caught shooting someone. It's all about mindless devotion for him.

This is a bs reply. I have repeatedly said Trump is not perfect, he could be better. But, he's 100% better than Hillary and we're better off with him in office than her. We really dodged a bullet.

I am not OK with dead kids, I hate it as much as you. But I don't think the answer is ridiculous feel good do-nothing gun restrictions.

This is a perfectly fine subject to discuss, leftist racism, but it is met with such ridiculous replies when brought up. Brush this one under the rug and keep talking about me posting and fringe Nazi's guys. Par for the course.

 

[cytg111]

"leftist racism"

- And just like that my brain cancer is back.

 

[Jhhnn]

"leftist racism"

- And just like that my brain cancer is back.

Yeh, Alabama Leftists are the worst, the most raciest of them all.

 

[Pipeline 1010]

I just think the way to fix it is different than you.

Herein lies the root of the majority of online politics arguments. The inability to fathom that someone with a different solution might also want the same outcome as yourself.

I got an earful of how I "tolerate drug usage" because my cousin can't understand my belief that decriminalizing drug usage might actually be a first step toward lowering drug usage rates.

It's the same thing when someone suggests we should deal with the underlying issues behind gun murders instead of felonizing millions of innocent people for owning a thing. There are people who can't fathom how this could be anything other than "tolerate mass murder of school children".

 

[Pipeline 1010]

I feel sorry for your children. They don't have a chance in life with such a useless shit like you as their father.

You seem like a pleasant fellow.

 

[Pipeline 1010]

Back on topic, it seems like child/teen suicide rates are increasing. Growing up I remember the bullied kids being sad/shy/withdrawn at times, but I couldn't fathom that they would actually kill themselves. What is going on?

 

[Vic]

Herein lies the root of the majority of online politics arguments. The inability to fathom that someone with a different solution might also want the same outcome as yourself.

I got an earful of how I "tolerate drug usage" because my cousin can't understand my belief that decriminalizing drug usage might actually be a first step toward lowering drug usage rates.

It's the same thing when someone suggests we should deal with the underlying issues behind gun murders instead of felonizing millions of innocent people for owning a thing. There are people who can't fathom how this could be anything other than "tolerate mass murder of school children".

I agree with you in part, except for 2 things.
1) The person you quoted isn't arguing in good faith.
2) The vast majority of liberals do not want gun rights taken from innocent people. This right wing straw man that they do is really no different than being just like your cousin. What liberals want is to do more to take away guns from criminals and (most greviously to the far right) tone down the rhetoric of the paranoid far right 'gun culture' that is the source of most of these mass shootings.

 

[fskimospy]

Herein lies the root of the majority of online politics arguments. The inability to fathom that someone with a different solution might also want the same outcome as yourself.

I got an earful of how I "tolerate drug usage" because my cousin can't understand my belief that decriminalizing drug usage might actually be a first step toward lowering drug usage rates.

Slowspyder does not actually have a viable alternate solution, that’s why people talk shit to him. I would love to hear viable conservative alternatives for all sorts of issues. Unfortunately they almost always place ideology above facts so they end up being magical thinking.

It's the same thing when someone suggests we should deal with the underlying issues behind gun murders instead of felonizing millions of innocent people for owning a thing. There are people who can't fathom how this could be anything other than "tolerate mass murder of school children".

Can you provide an example where someone said treating underlying issues of gun murder means ‘tolerate mass murder of school children’? This seems like a pretty clear straw man.

What people do say, correctly, is that gun rights people use nebulous ideas like this to resist common sense gun restrictions that research clearly shows are effective.

 

[IJTSSG]

Slow Spyder has been living rent free right between the ears of every TDS suffering member of the bitch brigade for years now. Stupid motherfuckers.

BTW, the article says that the school nor the local PD have ever received any reports of bullying wrt McKenzie Adams nor is there any evidence of it. Once again, stupid motherfuckers.

Now watch this. LoL.

 

[fskimospy]

Slow Spyder has been living rent free right between the ears of every TDS suffering member of the bitch brigade for years now. Stupid motherfuckers.

BTW, the article says that the school nor the local PD have ever received any reports of bullying wrt McKenzie Adams nor is there any evidence of it. Once again, stupid motherfuckers.

Now watch this. LoL.

Oh look, the 50+ year old man is back again to rant with outdated 90’s insults about how much he hates everyone on the message board he voluntarily chooses to visit!

 

[Jhhnn]

Slow Spyder has been living rent free right between the ears of every TDS suffering member of the bitch brigade for years now. Stupid motherfuckers.

BTW, the article says that the school nor the local PD have ever received any reports of bullying wrt McKenzie Adams nor is there any evidence of it. Once again, stupid motherfuckers.

Now watch this. LoL.

Yeh, it's almost as stupid as leftist racism in Alabama. Last I checked, your agenda is the same as his, owning the Libs for their delicious tears.

 

[Jaskalas]

Sounds like a story of a failed school system where children are forced to endure harassment, and the adults do nothing. Being forced into that situation with no way to find a resolution, might as well be considered torture.

 

[darkswordsman17]

Damn that's just sad and fucked up.

Is it really though? I can’t remember where any progressive said you should be nice to people engaging in clearly bad faith.

The person you're responding to often doesn't engage in good faith either...

Where's the Trenchcoat Mafia when you need them for a school visit?

Er, the Trenchcoat Mafia wouldn't have done shit, that group wasn't anything more than just sorta a counterculture thing from some of the sorta outcast (kinda like goths, but they were different from goths). They were just another clique (which means they probably got bullied and bullied others like most high school cliques). Plus, the Columbine shooters weren't even part of the group. The main Columbine guy was himself a fucking bully and all the crap Eminem and others said (about how it was in response to getting picked on) was bullshit. He was just a fucking psychotic asshole. If I remember right he was quite a bit of a right wing nutjob (although he hid that from most people, even "friends"), although that doesn't really fully explain the situation either.

 

[Victorian Gray]

Op once again pretending to give a shit about something. Go get 'em tiger.

 

[SlowSpyder]

I agree with you in part, except for 2 things.
1) The person you quoted isn't arguing in good faith.
2) The vast majority of liberals do not want gun rights taken from innocent people. This right wing straw man that they do is really no different than being just like your cousin. What liberals want is to do more to take away guns from criminals and (most greviously to the far right) tone down the rhetoric of the paranoid far right 'gun culture' that is the source of most of these mass shootings.

You guys say you don't want to take gun rights from people, yet you actively support measures and candidates that would prefer to do just that.

And what do you mean I am not arguing in good faith?

 

[SlowSpyder]

Yeh, it's almost as stupid as leftist racism in Alabama. Last I checked, your agenda is the same as his, owning the Libs for their delicious tears.

Do you understand what happened in this story? You seem to have this idea that only the right can be racist, here you are again pissing into the wind.

 

[Moonbeam]

It's amazing the way the hate gets turned on when SS shows up. All that progressive understanding BS goes right out the window.

You guys are funny.

Hehe. Let's just hope we don't bully him into killing himself.

 

[Moonbeam]

I wish I could have been there to talk some sense into her. Who knows what other problems may have been going on, but this racist bullying seems like the prime cause. No BLM protests again?

I wish you or somebody else could of too. But she grew up in a world so dark she never got the news that God loves he as much as the best among us and that the God that does that loving was right there within her. Unlike most of us, she neither had the resources nor the sophistication to turn off her pain and it may have been especially great.

 

[Lanyap]

and at what point would you say "gee i wish i could talk some sense into those asshole bullies"? because that's the cause of this. you stop bullying, you stop things like this from happening. you talking to her might save her for a day, but i promise you she'll just be bullied the next day and be right back in the same position (i was very much bullied in high school).

hit the root cause, stop the problems. otherwise you're just putting a bandaid over a bullet wound.

So sad. No child should feel like suicide is an answer to bullying. From a racial standpoint it appears that she was mostly being bullied by her black classmates about being with a white boy/family although the articles I've seen don't come out and actually say it. I would have expected white kids to be bullying both of these kids in that part of Alabama where racism is still rampant. Also confusing is that the parents say the bullying was intense and the little girl switched schools because of it but the investigations so far reveal no reports were made to the schools or authorities.

Bullying has been around in schools forever but it appears that kids are getting more hateful over the past 10-15 years. My daughter experienced intense bullying when she was in middle school 10-12 years ago. The other girls could be real bi...hateful.

 

[Jhhnn]

Do you understand what happened in this story? You seem to have this idea that only the right can be racist, here you are again pissing into the wind.

I understand that leftist bullies in the heart of Trump country is patently absurd. It's like Inuit in the Amazon.

 

[Jhhnn]

So sad. No child should feel like suicide is an answer to bullying. From a racial standpoint it appears that she was mostly being bullied by her black classmates about being with a white boy/family although the articles I've seen don't come out and actually say it. I would have expected white kids to be bullying both of these kids in that part of Alabama where racism is still rampant. Also confusing is that the parents say the bullying was intense and the little girl switched schools because of it but the investigations so far reveal no reports were made to the schools or authorities.

Bullying has been around in schools forever but it appears that kids are getting more hateful over the past 10-15 years. My daughter experienced intense bullying when she was in middle school 10-12 years ago. The other girls could be real bi...hateful.

Today, they have our President to show them how to do it, too.

 

[Lanyap]

Today, they have our President to show them how to do it, too.

True. He makes it worse.

 

[HomerJS]

SS follows Trump example of bullshit artist.

There is a 16 17 page thread of blacks getting their civil rights violated just for existing yet he waits 2 years to find an example like this one.

He doesn't give 2 shits about the child. He's making a failed attempt to prove racism is equal on both sides and its a fail as usual.

 

[woolfe9998]

Herein lies the root of the majority of online politics arguments. The inability to fathom that someone with a different solution might also want the same outcome as yourself.

I got an earful of how I "tolerate drug usage" because my cousin can't understand my belief that decriminalizing drug usage might actually be a first step toward lowering drug usage rates.

It's the same thing when someone suggests we should deal with the underlying issues behind gun murders instead of felonizing millions of innocent people for owning a thing. There are people who can't fathom how this could be anything other than "tolerate mass murder of school children".

Or the fact that permitting gay marriage actually promotes monogamy and reduces promiscuity.

 

[Pipeline 1010]

I would love to hear viable conservative alternatives for all sorts of issues. Unfortunately they almost always place ideology above facts so they end up being magical thinking.

I can't speak for conservatives, but I can speak for myself:
(1) End the war on drugs and treat drug addiction as a medical issue instead of a "prison-rape the addiction out" issue. Estimates vary, but gun murders related to the lucrative and violent black market of the drug trade make up a significant percentage of gun murders. None of which would happen without this black market.
(2) Gun licenses. Similar to a driver license...you must hold a current gun license in order to purchase a gun. The devil is in the details, but there could be such things as criminal background checks, mental health checks, or other qualifications. Once you have a license, it is good for a specified amount of time just like a driver license, at which point you must renew it. Without a license, you can't buy guns.

I think #1 would be the single most effective change in law/thinking/strategy when it comes to reducing gun violence.

Can you provide an example where someone said treating underlying issues of gun murder means ‘tolerate mass murder of school children’? This seems like a pretty clear straw man.

Certainly. Please read and enjoy the following response to someone saying we should treat the underlying issues of gun murder instead of using the ineffective bandaid of rights restriction.:

You absolutely do; to you, dead children are tolerable so long as you get to keep playing with your toys. And sorry, it's not a talking point. I just look at the rest of the world and notice that countries with more sensible gun laws and less gun fetishism don't have this problem.

^ I think this guy might not be very nice.

What people do say, correctly, is that gun rights people use nebulous ideas like this to resist common sense gun restrictions that research clearly shows are effective.

The truly nebulous idea here is "common sense gun restrictions". What does that mean? How do you do this? What are the scientifically estimated results? Do they outweigh the costs of implementation? How do you make it work in a nation that owns 40-ish percent of all the privately owned guns? Could this fact make solutions different in America than say France?