This sounds awesome. I want to believe it. Yet if that were true, I would expect liberals to not use arguments such as "conservatives will never support ending the war on drugs so let's not try" while at the same time saying "conservatives want their guns and will never support gun control but let's do it LOL". Especially when ending the war on drugs is a far superior method to reduce gun violence, violence in general, tax money spent, and people's lives ruined. Search your feelings on this.
I have never heard a liberal make the argument of ‘conservatives will never end the war on drugs so let’s not try’. Ever. I am simply saying conservatives are almost entirely uninterested in enacting policies that will reduce gun violence so let’s not pretend otherwise.
We should enact policies based solely on their merits, not who it makes mad. This is why we should end the war on drugs and this is why we need greater gun control. The question is not which should we do, we should do both.
No, it reduces the violence levels because it eliminates the lucrative black market dominated by the most violent individuals and groups, who have massive incentive to be violent.
I think you misunderstood my post. My point was we will still have plenty of gun violence absent the war on drugs. It’s not enough.
You. Can't. It is impossible. In magical fairy land you can get rid of 300,000,000 guns in a country that believes it is allowed BY GOD to own these guns. Good luck. Good luck doing it without killing anyone, getting cops killed, or imprisoning people who never harmed anybody (which likely will now make them actually violent because that's what prison does).
Plenty of other countries have done so, and I don’t think the idea that it may be difficult makes it not worth doing, it would be a steady process over many years.
Simply declaring something impossible is what people often do when they just don’t WANT to do something. (See health care, universal)
You. Can't. How would you even accomplish this without badly fucking shit up? Has any nation ever accomplished this in history? Any comparable nation that had lots of private ownership of guns?
See above. It’s a worthy goal and so at a minimum we should try. We owe it to ourselves.
This is not a true statement and the U.S. is a blatant counterexample. When the U.S. allowed the assault rifle ban to expire (loosened restrictions), gun deaths dropped steeply over the next decade and beyond, while gun ownership skyrocketed. This leads me to believe that there are more powerful and important variables at play.
This is a true statement, backed by empirical research. There are always other factors in play which is why you need to look for natural policy experiments to control for them.
Here’s one example:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4504296/
Conclusions. Consistent with prior research, this study demonstrated that Connecticut’s handgun permit-to-purchase law was associated with a subsequent reduction in homicide rates. As would be expected if the law drove the reduction, the policy’s effects were only evident for homicides committed with firearms.
Here’s a second related to suicide:
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0091743515002297
Conclusion
The findings are consistent with prior research linking firearm availability to increased risk of suicide and lower suicide risks associated with PTP handgun laws.
Will you reconsider your position now? This is what I mean about common sense laws. More guns means more dead people by guns.
We gotta look at ending the war on drugs, investing tax money into mental health, and implement licensing strategies for purchasing/owning guns. Prison raping non-violent people because they own a tool is not going to be the answer.
No one has suggested prison raping anyone.