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shadow9d9

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"How many of those 40+ RPG's for playstation are actually *worth* playing. You also forgot the GC is the best systems for a group of people. "

About 10 are amazing.
GC is for people without internet connections for group play.. I would never play 4 people on a tv screen!
 

cheesehead

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Golden Sun is a freakishly awesome RPG. GS2 is also awesome. Advance Wars is worth the price of the game boy itself.
For all you sega fans.....need I remind you that Sega is now making games primarily for Nintendo?
For me, it's a question of one thing: quality. If the PSP is anything like the early PS2's, they'll be prone to mysteriously frying, and will be very fragile. Nintendo's systems, as I can say from personal experience, are veritable tanks-I've dropped my game boys dozens of times, and they are'nt even scratched. People report leaving them in buckets of oil for a month, and, with a little soap and water, having them still work just fine after they come out.
Of course, there's also the quality of games. Although the GBA's games are sparse, they tend to be of very high quality. On the other hand, Sony has the backing of Rockstar and SquareEnix, which may be a cruical deciding factor.
Then again, it might also be decieded by which side of my penny is heavier.
 

Alexstarfire

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Yes, that's a very good price for the PSP. I never thought it would be so low. One thing to keep in mind though is that that is the price for the PSP in Japan, which comes out December 12th for them. I don't even know when it comes out over here, just that's it's sometime in 2005. The price will most likely rise some, but not every much since they should be producing them quicker and have more on hand. I'm not going to pay for either of them. They are both way too expensive in my mind. I think that the DS will win, though, only because Nintendo has had a long standing reputation in the handheld market. Though it does make me wonder since the PSX did so good when it first came out.

@shadow9d9, SHUT UP ABOUT THAT, jeez. I already said that I didn't mean to make it seem like that's the definant price. Just stop going on about that and crapping this thread. I'd also like to know those 10 great RPG games. Not because I doubt you. It's just because I'm a fellow RPG fan and would like to know, I'm in desperate need of a new RPG.

It's true that Nintendo doesn't really make that many games for their systems that are violent. Someone has to be there for the kids though. A lot of them are great, or would be if not for the stupid controller. Not sure why they changed from the best controller of all time to some stupid wannabe PS controller. The N64 controller was and will remain, at least for now, the best controller ever. It was perfect for FPS games, which I'm sorry to say none of the new controllers are that great at. Anyways, they both have good points to them. I don't think I'm ever going to see Super Smash Bros or Metroid on a Sony system. Hopefully Nintendo can at least bring back the N64 controller with some modifications on it, that would at least revive the console FPS community for Nintendo.
 

gspyer

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The price in America will have quite a bit to do with the strength of the American dollar against the yen. Our dollar is weak. That $5 trillion defict hurts. The dollar MIGHT trade better or worse depending on the election; confidence in the dollar may grow or shrink.

So, don't get to happy about $185 just yet (which is an awesome deal in my book too). It could be $200 or $150.

If the stays under $200, I'm getting instead of DS.
 

Alexstarfire

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Jul 25, 2004
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Well according to this, it'll be under $200 even in the US. That's good for them, although I'm not sure how much they are really going to make off of it. They had to have it low just ot compete, but I'm sure it's not very good for them. Anyways, shadow9d9, this isn't garaunteed so don't even try to say anything.
 

Mephistokur

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Originally posted by: Cheesehead
Sony has the backing of Rockstar

I think San Andreas was the last of the PS2 exclusives. Rockstar's contract with Sony expires this year - unless they re-upped, which would have been stupid. Rockstar could double their profits at launch alone with just PC support at launch. They no longer *need* Sony. That is part of the reason for the release of the first two GTA3 style games for XBox.

Here's hoping, anyway.

 

fr

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Originally posted by: xobitx
The PSP will debute in Japan for $350 and be launched in the US 6 months later at $299, twice the cost of the DS. They wont sell as many as they would like probable 1 to every 5 DS's sold. Until they drop the price then they will sell better. Nintendo will win the overall war due the fact the cost of the DS is very small compared to the PSP. Sony will be battling cost constantly just to break even, Nintendo already is selling a version of the DS in china for a while now called the ique or some other. Its a N64 controler all in one console with av out something like the all in one atari controllers, etc. The shrunk the N64 chipset onto one chip and stuffed it in a N64 controller and its rumured to be the exact chip in the DS and the iQue thing sells for $60 or so with no lcds. So you know NDS price will always be half that of psp and attract more buyers and developers. but i think i will still get a PSP but not for 300 maybe 200. I also plan to get a couple ds's for the kids when they drop to $99 next christmas. I just prefer a larger screen than Nintendo is offering the should have made it a VR type thing one lcd for each eye now that would be awesome a vitual boy /advanced/64/cube, maybe next gen.

Do you have a link? The only iQue I know is a PDA/GPS made by Garmin
 

Arkitech

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Originally posted by: TerryMathews
Originally posted by: Arkitech
That is the most insane statement I've heard on this site in a long time. If Nintendo was making good games they would'nt have such a hard time making money on the Gamcube.

Go read a stock report; Nintendo is making money hand over fist. You've made the very common mistake of equating mindshare with profitability.

I did'nt say Nintendo is'nt profitable I said they were having a hard time making money on the Gamecube. Nintendo has made profits from the Gameboy systems but it's done poorly with the Gamecube due to a lack of software titles.
 

Arkitech

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Originally posted by: abaez
Originally posted by: Arkitech
Originally posted by: AlexPton
even if the PSP is $100, I'd rather get the DS.

Nintendo makes better games, the DS is much more novel and creative, and I can't even play my damn old PS1 games in the PSP.

That is the most insane statement I've heard on this site in a long time. If Nintendo was making good games they would'nt have such a hard time making money on the Gamcube.

Insane? The number of systems sold is not a measure of the quality of games on a system. Metroid Prime and Zelda are two of the best games to come out on ANY system recently (please try to quantify that statement as insane.) Along with Viewtiful Joe and Eternal Darkness and most recently Paper Mario. Granted some of those aren't made by Nintendo, but they are exclusive to the console, which is basically the same thing.

4 titles does'nt qualify the Gamecube as having better games. And for you to say Metroid and Zelda are the 2 best games to come out for any system is equally insane as your first statement. What about the Metal Gear Solids, GTA, Devil May Cry, Ico, Suikoden 3, Final Fantasy 9-10, Fable, Knights Of The Old Reublic, Morrowind, Soul Calbur 2, Onimusha, Ratchet and Clank, Jak and Daxter, etc.. My point is that a handful of games can't compare to a console that has a vast library of titles.
 

SirPappy

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Alexstarfire,
shut up dude.

your calling ppl noobs when youve only been here a few months yourself.last time i checked, that makes you a noob.

and dont tell ppl to stop bashing the DS or nintindo,when your off bashing sony.

me personally(thats personally,as in IMHO) i like both Nintindo,sony and microsofts XBOX. they all have there strong points.
Xbox is easy to mod with a 160 gb hard drive and it has halo
PS2 are also easy to mod with a hard drive, they have the bigest collection of great games,and there controler setup is perfect.
nintindo has good games for kids........with a few games that are worth buying that are exclusive to GC...
dont get me wrong, i like my GC as well.but i only play a handfull of games on it. i havent had a gb since the 1st gulf war(it kept me intertained out there when i had time) because they dont entertain me.
the games on it just arnt for me. my little nephews love them,but i dont. does that mean the games suck? no.
that just means those games and platform arnt for me, a 36 year old guy whose been playing games for almost 3 decades, and has owned almost every platform out there at one time or another.
now remember, these are MY OPINIONS!
and im posting all this crud cause im trying to make a point.
This is a HOT DEALS FORUM!, not a sony/nintindo bashing/ i think they suck cause/i know for a fact it will cost at least this much(BS)/i can confirm this(BS)/this company is way better than that company(BS).

I came to this post so i can read a hot deal, not hear someones BS opinions and BS "confermation".
keep them to yourself.

next time just post the facts.
thats FACTS!
they have other forums here on this website for your opinions and flame war bashings.


for everyone else who had to read through my garbage in this post, i apolagize. i just wanted to make a point.


now lets get back to some HOT DEALS!
 

shadow9d9

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Pappy, Alexstarfire CONFIRMED that the PSP would be $350! I don't know what to believe.. him or Sony!
 

abaez

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Originally posted by: Arkitech
Originally posted by: abaez
Originally posted by: Arkitech
Originally posted by: AlexPton
even if the PSP is $100, I'd rather get the DS.

Nintendo makes better games, the DS is much more novel and creative, and I can't even play my damn old PS1 games in the PSP.

That is the most insane statement I've heard on this site in a long time. If Nintendo was making good games they would'nt have such a hard time making money on the Gamcube.

Insane? The number of systems sold is not a measure of the quality of games on a system. Metroid Prime and Zelda are two of the best games to come out on ANY system recently (please try to quantify that statement as insane.) Along with Viewtiful Joe and Eternal Darkness and most recently Paper Mario. Granted some of those aren't made by Nintendo, but they are exclusive to the console, which is basically the same thing.

4 titles does'nt qualify the Gamecube as having better games. And for you to say Metroid and Zelda are the 2 best games to come out for any system is equally insane as your first statement. What about the Metal Gear Solids, GTA, Devil May Cry, Ico, Suikoden 3, Final Fantasy 9-10, Fable, Knights Of The Old Reublic, Morrowind, Soul Calbur 2, Onimusha, Ratchet and Clank, Jak and Daxter, etc.. My point is that a handful of games can't compare to a console that has a vast library of titles.

Read my post again. I didn't say they are the two best, I said two of the best. Some of those titles you mentioned are definately great games, and Metroid and Zelda belong in that group.

Take a look at this link: http://www.shacknews.com/reviews/ - all user reviews (on a hardcore gamers site) and there are SEVERAL nintendo games on the list (Definately more than the ps2). A vast library of mediocore titles or a small library of great games? It all depends on your viewpoint, but just because the Gamecube is third does not mean that there are no great games for the system. Your original statement is pretty much bogus.
 

Tom

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go to gamerankings.com

the top 20 rated games for the xbox and the gamecube are all 90% and above. Out of those 20 the xbox has 9 games you can't play on a gamecube, the gamecube has 11 games you can't play on the xbox.
 

Alexstarfire

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Jul 25, 2004
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Wow, I believe there was only 1 post were I actually bashed Sony. And even in that one it was because I assumed the price of the PSP was going to be outrageous. I mean, for the price now my statement doesn't make any sense. That's actually not a bad price now for the PSP as I have already stated. Although the battery life isn't that great, not Sony's fault, it's not bad by any means. There are also several good things I mentioned about Sony, so you have no right to say I only bashed them.

I also never called anyone a noob. If you're refering to the post where I showed shadow9d9 the link to my $350 MSRP PSP reference, I didn't even say he was anything. I just told him not to call me a BSer, you have more right to off on him for name calling. shadow9d9 can't get off the fact that I said that I could confirm it. I already said that that's not what I meant to make it sound like. He just can't let it go.

And you're right, this is a Hot Deals thread. This BTW didn't seem like a hot deal to me at all. I guess if you need the acessories it isn't that bad. Can we please just forget about the stupid pricing and bashing of other people, and companies?

May I apologize for all of these very unecessary posts, mostly just mine and shadow9d9. Sorry for those that tried to keep this thread on track who had to read through all this mindless junk. Hopefully this can be forgiven.
 

yhlee

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you guys can argue all you want, but i'm gonna buy both

I'll also have my ipaq to play nes/gb/gbc/sega (morphgear rocks!)

It has always been the case that both companies make great games. Even though the gba/gc hasn't had many "RPGs", i really enjoyed playing tales of symphonia, the golden sun series, and soon the FF snes remakes. I also had fun playing FFX, well at least for about 10 hours, and xenosaga. No need to argue really. I actually prefer the ati/nvidia and the mac/pc flamefests a lot more

-young
 

ondarkness

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I waited 6 hours in line for my Nintendo DS and my goodies bag on saturday and after receiving it, the System gameplay is EFFEN AWESOME. the demo at stores of metroid is great and all, but the other games... man!!! crazy! Im addicted to the one where you have to get a girl to like you by doing crazy things- haha- 'FEEL THE MAGIC'

this thing is awesome!
 
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