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Zclyh3

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I'm sure any game that is made can be made on a console can be easily transfered into a PC. Take FFX and let it harness the power of the Ti4600! Now who's talking? And plus, some games are better on PC...like that new 007 shooter, and the multiplayer option is way better on a PC with the internet connection and all. Also, companies who take those games and place them on PC will make even more money.
 

Blakwngbrd

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Originally posted by: Zclyh3
I'm sure any game that is made can be made on a console can be easily transfered into a PC. Take FFX and let it harness the power of the Ti4600! Now who's talking? And plus, some games are better on PC...like that new 007 shooter, and the multiplayer option is way better on a PC with the internet connection and all. Also, companies who take those games and place them on PC will make even more money.

That's assuming, of course, that the companies that hold the licenses for those games are willing to port them (or allow someone else to port them) to another system. Note, for example, that no Mario game has ever seen light of day on a PC aside from via console emulators, and they have never been on any console other than Nintendo, period. Same with Metroid and Zelda. There are MANY others. Even if the process of porting a game from a console to the PC were as easy as you think it is (which it unfortunately is not), there are other factors preventing this from happening. Which is why most of us buy consoles to begin with.

If you would prefer to stick to your PC and wait (possibly forever) for the games you want to come out for your machine, that is more than fine by us...but don't go around telling us that our consoles aren't as good as your PC. We're too busy playing the games that you can't play to pay attention, anyway
 

mchammer187

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Originally posted by: Blakwngbrd
Originally posted by: Zclyh3
I'm sure any game that is made can be made on a console can be easily transfered into a PC. Take FFX and let it harness the power of the Ti4600! Now who's talking? And plus, some games are better on PC...like that new 007 shooter, and the multiplayer option is way better on a PC with the internet connection and all. Also, companies who take those games and place them on PC will make even more money.

That's assuming, of course, that the companies that hold the licenses for those games are willing to port them (or allow someone else to port them) to another system. Note, for example, that no Mario game has ever seen light of day on a PC aside from via console emulators, and they have never been on any console other than Nintendo, period. Same with Metroid and Zelda. There are MANY others. Even if the process of porting a game from a console to the PC were as easy as you think it is (which it unfortunately is not), there are other factors preventing this from happening. Which is why most of us buy consoles to begin with.

If you would prefer to stick to your PC and wait (possibly forever) for the games you want to come out for your machine, that is more than fine by us...but don't go around telling us that our consoles aren't as good as your PC. We're too busy playing the games that you can't play to pay attention, anyway

exactly

tell me you can build a game machine more powerful than a GC for $135 and then i will agree with u

the TI4600 alone is the price of 2 consoles and it will be outdated in 1 year

the next generation of consoles wont be out for another 3 years at least

if i had to pick between my PC and my PS2 i'd pick my PC of course but if i could only game on one of these

it would be the PS2

not enough FF style rpgs on the PC for my taste

tell me how many times u have 3 friends crowd around ur PC to play a game?
never

sure I can LAN but its not the same

if my PC could do that than I would not own any consoles
 

Zclyh3

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My main point is that the Ti4600 is more powerful than ANY gaming console out there. I'm not considering cost, playing with others, and games. It's all about whose graphics are better. That's my main point.
 

cremefilled

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It's all about whose graphics are better. That's my main point.

Uhm, OK, if you insist on keeping the argument to this absurdly narrow point, then you "win" the argument.

Actually, a Silicon Graphics workstation can produce graphics that dwarf the Ti4600, so what's the point of owning a PC with a Ti4600?

Anyway, Resident Evil on the Gamecube arguably has the best looking graphics of any game out right now, on any system. Sure, a top-of-the-line PC could theoretically produce those graphics even better, but as has been said already, it's about games, not theory.
 

Blakwngbrd

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Originally posted by: Zclyh3
My main point is that the Ti4600 is more powerful than ANY gaming console out there. I'm not considering cost, playing with others, and games. It's all about whose graphics are better. That's my main point.

Hehe well, if that is your only criterion then I will concede the point. You remind me of a guy whose call I took back in December while handling customer service for my company. He wanted the exact specs of the Xbox and GameCube. My company doesn't sell any products, but I happened to have a gaming mag on my desk that had the specs, so I read them to him. As I went down the list (processor speed, graphics, etc) he said something like "Ok, it sounds like I should get the Xbox. It sounds way better." So I asked well, what are you planning on doing with it? He told me it was for his kids, and (when asked) confirmed that they love Mario games. I suggested that the GCN might be a better choice for young children because of the wider variety of child-oriented games available for it, and he said "But it's not as fast as the Xbox, and I'm sure those games will come out for the Xbox eventually..." I patiently explained that Nintendo owns the rights to the Mario games and that they will never be released for a non-Nintendo console. I probably spent close to half an hour on the phone with this guy answering his questions. In the end, he decided to buy a GameCube even though it was "slower" because it more closely suited his needs.

So you see... even though you're absolutely right that a PC will outmuscle a gaming console any day, sometimes it's not the computing power that really matters.

PS mchammer, good point about multiplayer gaming. I never really bother with multiplayer games on my PC unless it's via LAN...but the consoles in the living room are a whole different story.
 

XFreebie

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consoles do not and will not allow multiplayer over broadband for a long time, first broadband deployment has slowly ever since the RBOCs killed the CLECs and even if their was widespread broadband, it'd be suited for computer games because sony/nintendo/msft WILL charge monthly access to their gaming network.

msft just announced that it will invest $2billion cash towards xbox and broadband, how will they recoupe the money? charge for the services!

meanwhile, u can play cs or rtcw online free, the games can also be patched for bugs and such, and these games are alot better than console games in terms of price/performance
 

Oakenfold

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Zclyh3

I'm sure any game that is made can be made on a console can be easily transfered into a PC. Take FFX and let it harness the power of the Ti4600! Now who's talking? And plus, some games are better on PC...like that new 007 shooter, and the multiplayer option is way better on a PC with the internet connection and all. Also, companies who take those games and place them on PC will make even more money.

1. Your TI 4600 looks almost exactly like my GF3, and like the TI 4400's that I've owned, and I've owned 2 PNY's and a Gainward.
2. If you hookup an XBOX to a HDTV, your GF4 will have some serious competition.(stress the HDTV there, regular tv's flatscreens etc do not count)


My main point is that the Ti4600 is more powerful than ANY gaming console out there. I'm not considering cost, playing with others, and games. It's all about whose graphics are better. That's my main point.

1. The GF3 just saw the very first games come out that actually use the programmable shaders what several months ago, aquanox and ballistics being the first, I can't attest for ballistics but I think most will agree Aqua was garbage, GORGEOUS but garbage. I couldn't even get my flight stick to work right with the game.

2. Do you know why we don't see more games using these awesome videocards? Because the PC industry does not have the volume that these console games do. The software developers are not going to divert all their efforts into developing for graphics cards that less than 5% of all pc's are populated by, it's a business decision.

Btw I rarely play my PS2 that's modded with a NEO4, I have it for my wife more than anything, what the consoles have is replayabilty and good game design,
I challenge you to compare most pc games to console games to see the quality there(not graphicallly speaking).
Aren't you tired of playing Unreal based engines, I hate quake engines, you get the point here? I love PC gaming. I only buy for multiplayer,
never for singleplayer, but it is currently NOT where the money is.
The sad truth is that PC gamers are stuck with alot of junk software.

Now,
anyone wanna trade me their xbox for a GF3 card? I really want to try halo!
 

WHSLacrossekid

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consoles do not and will not allow multiplayer over broadband for a long time

Really? I was playing Halo over the internet with My Cable modem when I had my Xbox. What you're saying is 100% false
 

marill999

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I agree, they do, even PS2 can... and GameCube... you just have to plug it into your modem via USB with an adapter to your modem... They just haven't officially released the GameCube equipment for easier connection and for 56kers... like a modem... same applies for PS2 and Xbox...
 

Averox

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Originally posted by: byror
there is a ff game for gc. it's not ffx though. it's a totally new game. search the web for 'final fantasy unlimited'.

As far as I know Final Fantasy Unlimited is an anime and there is supposedly a game being created about FF:U which a) has no final name yet and b) does not have a defined system.

Btw there are limits to what PCs and console systems can do. Why not stop argueing and enjoy both worlds?
 

Blakwngbrd

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Originally posted by: Averox
Originally posted by: byror there is a ff game for gc. it's not ffx though. it's a totally new game. search the web for 'final fantasy unlimited'.
As far as I know Final Fantasy Unlimited is an anime and there is supposedly a game being created about FF:U which a) has no final name yet and b) does not have a defined system. Btw there are limits to what PCs and console systems can do. Why not stop argueing and enjoy both worlds?

Amen to that! Now I will stop using my PC for a while so I can play more Super Monkey Ball
 

jasonja

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consoles do not and will not allow multiplayer over broadband for a long time

Oh really? I guess I was dreaming last year while I was playing Quake3 and Phantasy Star Online on my Dreamcast with the Dreamcast Broadband Adapter.

I do so love when misinformed fools post mindless ramblings.
 

Dunjon

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Originally posted by: Slacker
Originally posted by: Zclyh3
Sorry, but none of those game consoles can ever match the power of the GeForce 4 Ti 4600. And plus, game consoles aren't upgradable.

I will never understand why some people think it has to be one or the other I have a Visiontek ti4600, and a gamecube and a PS2 and an XboX, they all do what they are supposed to very well, I use them all and enjoy them all.


I guess you got money like that. I perfer to spend my money on the most interactive entertainment around... LAP DANCING STRIPPERS!

Besides, console games are the big price problem. When Spiderman the movie came out it was $50 for the big 3. I got it for $16 for the pc. Heck I'd pay $500 for a console if games were under $20 brand new.
 

Dunjon

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Originally posted by: Blakwngbrd
Originally posted by: Zclyh3
I'm sure any game that is made can be made on a console can be easily transfered into a PC. Take FFX and let it harness the power of the Ti4600! Now who's talking? And plus, some games are better on PC...like that new 007 shooter, and the multiplayer option is way better on a PC with the internet connection and all. Also, companies who take those games and place them on PC will make even more money.

That's assuming, of course, that the companies that hold the licenses for those games are willing to port them (or allow someone else to port them) to another system. Note, for example, that no Mario game has ever seen light of day on a PC aside from via console emulators, and they have never been on any console other than Nintendo, period. Same with Metroid and Zelda. There are MANY others. Even if the process of porting a game from a console to the PC were as easy as you think it is (which it unfortunately is not), there are other factors preventing this from happening. Which is why most of us buy consoles to begin with.

Wasn't Donkey Kong released for the PC? Mega Man too.
 

mchammer187

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Originally posted by: Zclyh3
My main point is that the Ti4600 is more powerful than ANY gaming console out there. I'm not considering cost, playing with others, and games. It's all about whose graphics are better. That's my main point.

thats like saying i enjoy playing endless hours of 3dmark 2k1 cuz the graphics are soo awesome

no gameplay, playing with others, and cost

I dont know about u but i prefer FFX, MGS2, Devil May Cry, GTA 3, GT3 any day

any of those titles i could play for 5+ hours straight and not be bored
 

SALvation

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Originally posted by: XFreebie
consoles do not and will not allow multiplayer over broadband for a long time

I was playing Tony hawk online with my PS2 lastnight. Dumbass.

 

jbloggs

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Originally posted by: Dunjon
Originally posted by: Blakwngbrd
Originally posted by: Zclyh3
I'm sure any game that is made can be made on a console can be easily transfered into a PC. Take FFX and let it harness the power of the Ti4600! Now who's talking? And plus, some games are better on PC...like that new 007 shooter, and the multiplayer option is way better on a PC with the internet connection and all. Also, companies who take those games and place them on PC will make even more money.

That's assuming, of course, that the companies that hold the licenses for those games are willing to port them (or allow someone else to port them) to another system. Note, for example, that no Mario game has ever seen light of day on a PC aside from via console emulators, and they have never been on any console other than Nintendo, period. Same with Metroid and Zelda. There are MANY others. Even if the process of porting a game from a console to the PC were as easy as you think it is (which it unfortunately is not), there are other factors preventing this from happening. Which is why most of us buy consoles to begin with.

Wasn't Donkey Kong released for the PC? Mega Man too.


Oh Man, I love Donkey Kong, Space Invaders, Galaga, Gyruss, Centipede, Frogger, Chuckie Egg, DigDug, Defender, etc. All these old classics are still playable. It seems these days the games are so complicated that you need a manual (game guides) and twenty fingers to play them. Are there any games on any console which are simple to understand and still have great playability?
 

exisle

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wow lots of price drops and competition lately... its amazing that the ps2 was $300 for so long even
 

Blakwngbrd

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Originally posted by: jbloggs
Oh Man, I love Donkey Kong, Space Invaders, Galaga, Gyruss, Centipede, Frogger, Chuckie Egg, DigDug, Defender, etc. All these old classics are still playable. It seems these days the games are so complicated that you need a manual (game guides) and twenty fingers to play them. Are there any games on any console which are simple to understand and still have great playability?

Have you played Super Monkey Ball?
 

sync

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I don't really want another game console. I'm tempted to get this just for Rogue Leader, which is pretty dumb. Is RL coming out for the PC?
 
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