Interesting how a lot of people are acting like this is a horrible development...
Some people just had dreams of Nintendo returning to graphical competition with Sony and MS, and this shatters them.
But NX will have some kind of portable element, so it is good news in this sense since one would hope Nintendo would go with the best Tegra available and thus the best mobile chip graphics performance. If they went Snapdragon? Blah.
A mixed bag, if ever there was a definition.
Not long ago there were rumors going around that the NX would be roughly comparable to the next-gen from Sony and Microsoft. Now we find out it's just a mobile chipset. For people who wanted to see Nintendo finally be on par with performance this is a huge let down.
But you can all go ahead and pretend all the disappointment is just Nvidia hate by AMD fans, since that confirms your biased worldview.
I honestly don't think Nintendo cares about 3rd parties. They haven't shown any interest in them since the N64 days, if you ask me. People weren't buying Gamecubes for 3rd party titles.
Interesting stuff. I'll probably get this new NX regardless because the Nintendo always brings amazing games.
Because the Gamecube was a runaway sales success, am I right?
I think this is where Nintendo is betting the farm. Unified platform would reduce dev time too.
Ask me some of the current Wii U games can use a notch down in settings and run fine on 3DS.
Hell, they did it with Zero Time Dilemma running on PC/PS Vita/3DS.
(Man would I love Tokyo Mirage on PC!)
Look at Hyrule Warriors Legends or Super Smash Bros for comparisons between the same game running on the 3DS and Wii U.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4p0pI018jQ0
The difference goes beyond a "notch down in settings". I wouldn't want to give up the full console experience for Nintendo games and just settle for handhelds.
Neither was Xbox1, what's your point? Which had arguably stronger 3rd party support.
...Two different hardware sets each with their own limitations.
The difference here is potentially the same game running on low for mobile and high for console.
However, without knowing what the finalize hardware is, I don't know what high would entail. My honest prediction is it will be some where near current Wii U but at 1080p/60 instead of 720p/60.
Ask me some of the current Wii U games can use a notch down in settings and run fine on 3DS.
Ok.
The latest Tegra will almost certainly be the leader in mobile GPU performance. It's the best performance-per-watt once you want a certain performance level, since the cell phone chips will not be able to get here, and x86 + GCN will consume more.
More signs to being somewhat of a compromise.
What's your point? We know Nintendo doesn't seem to care about third party games, pointing to a console with lackluster sales doesn't justify that. As for the Xbox One, at least it's selling better than the Wii U.
Ok? Point is that it's basically the same game on 3DS and Wii U, and the visual difference goes much beyond just a "notch down in settings". Which is what you claimed.
Is it possible that we will see the rebirth of x86 translation?
I get you two are camp AMD, but you guys aren't looking at what Nintendo could possibly do.
A unified platform would benefit them greatly. Most of their best sellers are handheld games, which aren't graphically demanding.
Allowing users to play said games on a home console (sold separately, at a moderate price since the hardware won't be OMG 4k@60FPS) is just going to enhanced that for their player base.
With most console titles hitting PC, it is most likely Nintendo wants to be the go-to mobile device (as they've basically been regarded as due to lacking Wii U exclusives).
Have a PC+Nintendo NX, or PS4+Nintendo NX, or Xbone+Nintendo NX. They don't need to dominate Sony/MSFT. They will do just find selling their platform exclusive games.
Again, Pokemon sold 10 million copies. That beats any AAA-title multi-plat and the budget was most likely a small fraction in the process.
That is such a shame. Nintendo could have gone X86 for easy porting back and forth for AAA games. Might as well have stayed on the POWER architecture.
Nintendo just needs to pull a Sega and abandon hardware. Non one cares about their hardware, and they are just locking their software onto poor selling devices
Not sure if it ever came to your attention, but for porting of games the CPU architecture is mostly irrelevant.
You can port from Linuxx86 to Linux ARM with a press of a button. You can port from Windows x86 Win32 to Windows RT Win32 with a press of a button. The hard part of porting comes when the runtime environment changes e.g. Windows -> Linux for example.
The recent RE5 port from PC to Android is pretty bad actually. The Xbox 360 out performs it, and runs at a more consistent frame rate. I doubt this has anything to do with the hardware since Tegra X1 is faster than the last gen consoles. I think the port needed more time in development.
Anyway, If Nintendo is going with the Tegra X1, I would think it could be for mobile reasons as well. Could be part of some type of ecosystem, not just a console.
You seem to forget the global economic climate that the consoles were launched into. Nintendo made a lot of money because they made a decision that turned out to be better from 2008 onwards. The Wii was both cheaper to buy into and cheaper to add games for and the market wanted exactly that at the time.Yet Nintendo made more profits during that generation that MSFT. Also made more profits than MSFT last generation. And will most likely finish on top again this generation.
MSFT/SONY selling 40 million units at a loss means nothing if the software sales aren't there or future hardware sales to dig them out. Factor in the R&D. PS3's awful start and slow software sales cost Sony all the profits PS2 made. PS4 didn't start to make profits until a year after release. Wii U was making profits day 1.