Nintendo Switch is powered by NVIDIA

[greatnoob]

The battery life is very lackluster for an X1. Anybody know how modified the SoC is from the X1?

 

[R0H1T]

The battery life is very lackluster for an X1. Anybody know how modified the SoC is from the X1?

Not much by the looks of it, if at all. Probably the same reason why they went with a 720p screen, the battery life would suck even harder if it weren't for the low(ish) resolution.

 

[beginner99]

The battery life is very lackluster for an X1. Anybody know how modified the SoC is from the X1?

Is it really bad? How long does a smartphone last if you play a game continuously? Not much longer really. I'm not saying it's a good thing, it in fact is not. And this is why it was a bad idea from the get-go.

 

[dark zero]

The battery life is very lackluster for an X1. Anybody know how modified the SoC is from the X1?

Heavily.
CPU is 1.0 Ghz for the A57 cores and unknown for the A53 ones.

GPU is 785 Mhz docked and only 300 Mhz as portable.

CPU wise is slower than even the MTK 6595 and GPU wise are on par of the Power VR G600 at 600 Mhz when the console is portable.

But being fair since they are 64 bit cores, they are below the Helio X20 and the Snapdragon 652. I fear that the console ends pirated too fast on the SD 652.

 

[greatnoob]

Is it really bad? How long does a smartphone last if you play a game continuously? Not much longer really. I'm not saying it's a good thing, it in fact is not. And this is why it was a bad idea from the get-go.

I think smartphones provide good battery life when you consider they can be used for other things other than games. I'd expect a portable game console to excel in its one and only task: gaming for long periods on the go. 5-8 hours sounds much more realistic for a device in this form factor and with these specs.

Heavily.
CPU is 1.0 Ghz for the A57 cores and unknown for the A53 ones.

GPU is 785 Mhz docked and only 300 Mhz as portable.

CPU wise is slower than even the MTK 6595 and GPU wise are on par of the Power VR G600 at 600 Mhz when the console is portable.

But being fair since they are 64 bit cores, they are below the Helio X20 and the Snapdragon 652. I fear that the console ends pirated too fast on the SD 652.

With such a downclocked device it's surprising that it doesn't last 6 hours with that 300mhz, 256 core GPU. At 14/16nm it should be doable, yet Nintendo cheaped out with an older (20nm?) and slower 'custom' X1.

One thing I'm curious about is game development on mobile platforms. If the Switch is even a mild success it may lead to Android and iOS (?) ports of those games, especially since there are much more powerful tablets and smartphones available in the market.

 

[HurleyBird]

Is it really bad? How long does a smartphone last if you play a game continuously? Not much longer really. I'm not saying it's a good thing, it in fact is not. And this is why it was a bad idea from the get-go.

The Switch is 4x as thick, has 4x as much bezel, and only 1/4 as many pixels as a flagship phone. There's no good excuse for it to have worse battery life.

And then lower performance despite having a heat vent. There really isn't a single area it excels in.

 

[Cakefish]

Such a shame that it doesn't use the Pascal architecture with 16nm. Could have added an extra hour or two to the battery life.

My issue is that I intend to use it primarily as a portable device. And I wonder how much the battery will have degraded after the first year with daily recharges. That 2.5 hours that Nintendo are claiming could easily be halved after a year if there's no protection in place to prevent from battery degredation.

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[Chiropteran]

The Switch is 4x as thick, has 4x as much bezel, and only 1/4 as many pixels as a flagship phone. There's no good excuse for it to have worse battery life.

And then lower performance despite having a heat vent. There really isn't a single area it excels in.

It's also a fraction of the price of a flagship phone, especial when you consider the price of good hardware controllers with motion sensors plus a dock.

It really reminds me of the comparisons of a PS4 vs a gaming PC. You can always get more power for cheaper.

It's not so much an apples to apples comparison.

 

[caswow]

iam sorry but any flagship phone is in every way more "highend" than the switch...wayy more complex.

 

[poofyhairguy]

On our forum, gamers claim if it sells 20-30M copies, that's good. No, that's a disaster!!! Since this 1 console is supposed to replace DS/3DS/New 3DS and NES/SNES/N64/GameCube product lines. That means it really needs to sell at least 80M units [just to match 3DS portable and the GameCube home console sales]. For some reason, people are ignoring this point. One cannot claim that the Switch is a portable + a home console, but then ignore that its combined sales then should somewhat make up for Nintendo's portable and home console system sales of past generations. If this console sells just 20-30M, that's a bigger failure than the Wii U since it was meant that to replace 2 console segments.

To be clear, I don't think them selling half what the 3DS sold is a good thing. I was just making the point that the Xbox One set a low bar so far for console sales. The Switch needs to sell over 70 million to really be considered a success which might be a tall order.

I am personally very excited about the Switch though. I am not a hardcore Nintendo fanboy (don't own the 3DS or Wii U), and in a way Nintendo rewarded me for that lack of loyalty by giving the Switch a better version of Zelda, a much better version of Mario Kart 8 (online battle mode is huge), a better version of Splatoon and what will be the most anticipated Mario game in a long time. I feel bad for Wii U users who are watching their console prop up the next one, but frankly it worked for the Wii.

I am also personally really excited that two good looking JRPGs are set to come out for the console. That is my favorite game genre of all time which has been regulated to a few 3DS games, a few Steam indie games of questionable quality, a few Squaresoft smartphone respins, and little else. Hell Square is taking the holy temple of the JRPG- FF7- and is ripping out the turn based guts in the PS4 remake. That took that title from something I would buy a PS4 for and turned it into a title that outright offends me. The Switch is basically my last hope to play a new decent JRPG on my tv. I preordered Xenoblade 2 already.

I am also excited to play on the road the kind of games that have filled up my Steam library (Rayman Legends for example) but I don't ever actually play because I don't want to fight for tv time with my wife's desire to binge watch whatever crap the CW came out with recently for that kind of game. When I get TV time I want to play Doom not (admittedly highly rated) Rayman, but the standards for portable games are different. I will probably play the Switch in portable mode more than 50% of its active life and probably overlap a decent part of the unplayed part of my Steam account on it.

I am worried about battery life for sure, but the Switch having a USB C port helps there because I can easily get a cable to plug it into the half dozen battery packs I have to charge tablets and smartphones already. Honestly I am more worried that the demo Switch at the show didn't have a web browser. At the end of the day the Switch is a tablet (though a low PPI one) and it would suck if it couldn't browse this forum like any other tablet can just because Nintendo is scared of browser hacks or offending their new buddy Apple. I also don't like the accessory cost, but I say that as a guy who bought way too many $120 Wii controllers ($60 Wiimote, $40 Nunchuck, $20 Classic) back in the day. That isn't enough to push me away from the console, but is enough to get me to avoid buying a game like Arms that basically requires another $80 Joycon to play as intended with others. Given how Nintendo didn't even give New 3DS XL users a charging cable it could be worse. I will wait to get a pro controller for the next time one of those visa/PayPal/Amex/mobile/etc coupons come along. I am getting every game but Zelda and online only ones for less the asking price across the board thanks to Amazon giving out preorders for every game announced, that helps the value statement a ton.

 

[Sonikku]

I am a Nintendo fan, have owned every Nintendo DS and Game Boy variant sans the dsi, and even own a Wii U. But I have inversely felt as though Nintendo rewarded my loyalty with scorn. Nintendo promised Zelda would be on Wii U, but it feels like they are ensuring they only meet the bare minimum of that promise. Wii U owners are their most hardcore fans, but it looks like Zelda is only getting the more elaborate special and master editions that appeals to hardcore fans the most only on the Switch. It can't be helped if the Switch version runs better on account of hardware, but relegating the U version to only standard edition copies isn't something that appeals to the hardcore fans that held onto their systems all this time in anticipation of this game.

 

[tential]

I am a Nintendo fan, have owned every Nintendo DS and Game Boy variant sans the dsi, and even own a Wii U. But I have inversely felt as though Nintendo rewarded my loyalty with scorn. Nintendo promised Zelda would be on Wii U, but it feels like they are ensuring they only meet the bare minimum of that promise. Wii U owners are their most hardcore fans, but it looks like Zelda is only getting the more elaborate special and master editions that appeals to hardcore fans the most only on the Switch. It can't be helped if the Switch version runs better on account of hardware, but relegating the U version to only standard edition copies isn't something that appeals to the hardcore fans that held onto their systems all this time in anticipation of this game.

You bought a Wii U....
You'll get a Switch lol. Just like I will. Might as well get ready to make a thread saying what our online tags will be for the new ridiculous paid online experience..... lol so bad....

 

[Chiropteran]

iam sorry but any flagship phone is in every way more "highend" than the switch...wayy more complex.

And $600 more expensive... so yeah.

 

[tential]

iam sorry but any flagship phone is in every way more "highend" than the switch...wayy more complex.

A Flagship phone would get me a Vega high end GPU and a Nintendo Switch....
And I could keep my current phone that would do the same thing as a flagship phone. Text.....

 

[Sonikku]

You bought a Wii U....
You'll get a Switch lol. Just like I will. Might as well get ready to make a thread saying what our online tags will be for the new ridiculous paid online experience..... lol so bad....

N-no, I won't... Not this time. This time will be the time I don't buy a Nintendo system and send a message to Nintendo. For realsies this time. The performance for the price and the battery life is awful. The support is even worse than it was for the U! Paid online sucks, having to use a phone for online is just unbelievable. 1 2 Switch looks god awful. The ONLY game on this thing I want I can get on the U. So forget it. Ain't gonna happen sister. There is like a 0% possibility I will be duped again.

 

[Sonikku]

But really, on a more serious note I think I'll probably end up just canceling the special edition and getting the regular for the Wii U. I just got whipped into a bit of a frenzy watching that trailer when I placed that order is all.

 

[poofyhairguy]

But really, on a more serious note I think I'll probably end up just canceling the special edition and getting the regular for the Wii U. I just got whipped into a bit of a frenzy watching that trailer when I placed that order is all.

You could always keep the special stuff and sell the actual game.

 

[chimaxi83]

With "this" you mean the example how the graphics will look like PC games from the 90ties?



Then you should probably go for counseling about gaming addiction. You know you could also talk to other people on lunch, like 99% of people do, meaning your example is a niche.

Cool elitist crap, bro. People with your attitude embarrass me as a PC gamer. Since when do graphics sell Mario and Zelda?

As for your second moronic comment, I work alone in the field all day, as a service tech. My lunch is alone in my work vehicle. I read, play games on my phone, or watch Netflix. Stay in your bubble.

 

[nurturedhate]

I usually agree with your posts RS but why on earth are you trying to pass off buying a switch plus 2 extra controllers for a total of 3+ controllers to a ps4/xb1 with 1 controller. That is completely flawed.

Secondly, there's demand for it. The pre-orders, at least here locally, are completely sold out.

Success is a relative term as well. Will this generate an acceptable level of profit for Nintendo? That's the only metric at the end of the day. We don't have a BoM atm but looking at what is included it's not a lot. Software attach rates for first party titles on Nintendo consoles is high. This console's marketing isn't directed at the 15-30 CoD playerbase like ps4/xb1. It's clear they have no desire with competing with Sony/MS.

Frankly all this negativity about the Switch is akin to someone complaining they can't buy pizza at a taco place. You aren't the target audience.

 

[dark zero]

And $600 more expensive... so yeah.

http://www.banggood.com/LeTV-LeEco-...ore-4G-Smartphone-p-1101857.html?rmmds=search

http://www.banggood.com/LeTV-LeEco-...ore-4G-Smartphone-p-1090411.html?rmmds=search

Yeah.... 600 dollars more...

 

[Chiropteran]

Sorry, those are not flagship phones. They also don't come with a dock, or physical controllers.

iPhone or a Pixel is a flagship phone, or a latest Samsung S series or Note.

You linked some bargain priced cheap Chinese copies, phones that 90% of the public wouldn't dare try.

 

[dark zero]

Sorry, those are not flagship phones. They also don't come with a dock, or physical controllers.

iPhone or a Pixel is a flagship phone, or a latest Samsung S series or Note.

You linked some bargain priced cheap Chinese copies, phones that 90% of the public wouldn't dare try.

Sorry, but those have better specs than the Nintendo NX.
And the iPhone is not on the same group due the OS it has.
The Pixel is very overrated and overpriced compared to other devices like the Asus Zenfone Deluxe.
And the Note 7 is an explosive one.

Also, this is the page from the US and this is their flagship phone. This is the same brand I've shown to you.
http://us.lemall.com/us/phone/leeco_le_pro3/index.html

And the other product (Le 3), has the Snapdragon 652, the one who has better performance than the SOC of the Nintendo NX.

Also there is this:
https://oneplus.net/3t

And those has similar performance and even better performance than the Pixel.
http://www.gsmarena.com/oneplus_3t_vs_google_pixel_xl-review-1539.php

Nintendo chose the worst time to launch a device that could be emulated due architectures. And the required CPU power to run is easily near to achieve. Is like the Nintendo 3DS on that time. It got emulated on PC and Smartphones and ran better on the latter ones (except the ones powered by Intel Atom)

That's I wanted to say.

PS: This thread is supposed to go to the correspondent sub forum. Is a very interesting one.

 

[Chiropteran]

Sorry, but those have better specs than the Nintendo NX.

That is not what flagship means.

 

[swilli89]

N-no, I won't... Not this time. This time will be the time I don't buy a Nintendo system and send a message to Nintendo. For realsies this time. The performance for the price and the battery life is awful. The support is even worse than it was for the U! Paid online sucks, having to use a phone for online is just unbelievable. 1 2 Switch looks god awful. The ONLY game on this thing I want I can get on the U. So forget it. Ain't gonna happen sister. There is like a 0% possibility I will be duped again.

LOL excellent post!

 

[dark zero]

That is not what flagship means.

I know, and I pointed that at least the current flagship performance aspect had been reached. Other things are the other features like screen or camera. And as far I see, the Nintendo NX lacks of horsepower on most of the devices. The only thing that is excellent is the controller.

And again, this console seems to be possible to emulate on a smartphone. And that would be bad for Nintendo. They needed to thought on a device that last more time. I wanted to see it using nVIDIA Parker. It would be unreachable for smartphones for a long time.