If NX is partly handheld this would make sense. It's the best graphics you can get in mobile, essentially.
But not having x86 makes them, once again, the bane of third party developers. Do they learn nothing? N64 cartridge. Wii underpowered (yes it sold well, but it was a Pyrrhic victory), WiiU underpowered and not x86. All of these were devoid of 3rd party AAA games.
I agree, its like nintendo likes to sail the failboat
x86 isn't that big of a deal. After all this is the first generation of consoles where the two biggest ones are running on the same architecture. The NX being slower is a bigger deal.
Xbox: Smells like a PC. There were a few tricks you could dig into to push the machine. But, for the most part it was enough of a blessing to have a single, consistent PC spec to develop against. The debugger worked! It really, really worked! PIX was hand-delivered by angels.
Xbox360: Other than the big-endian thing, it really smells like a PC —until you dug into it. The GPU is great —except that the limited EDRAM means that you have to draw your scene twice to comply with the anti-aliasing requirement? WTF! Holy Crap there are a lot of SIMD registers! 4 floats x 128 registers x 6 registers banks = 12K of registers! You are handed DX9 and everything works out of the box. But, if you dig in, you find better ways to do things. Deeper and deeper. Eventually, your code looks nothing like PC-DX9 and it works soooo much better than it did before! The debugger is awesome! PIX! PIX! I Kiss You!
PS3: A 95 pound box shows up on your desk with a printout of the 24-step instructions for how to turn it on for the first time. Everyone tries, most people fail to turn it on. Eventually, one guy goes around and sets up everyone else’s machine. There’s only one CPU. It seems like it might be able to do everything, but it can’t. The SPUs seem like they should be really awesome, but not for anything you or anyone else is doing. The CPU debugger works pretty OK. There is no SPU debugger. There was nothing like PIX at first. Eventually some Sony 1st-party devs got fed up and made their own PIX-like GPU debugger. The GPU is very, very disappointing… Most people try to stick to working with the CPU, but it can’t handle the workload. A few people dig deep into the SPUs and, Dear God, they are fast! Unfortunately, they eventually figure out that the SPUs need to be devoted almost full time making up for the weaknesses of the GPU.
"Its a huge deal!!! PS3 was notoriously hard to develop for because of its crazy architecture, same with PS2 and Xbox 360!"
And yet, they were still developed for.
Its a huge deal!!!
Ok so what exactly is your point? PS3 and X360 were the only games in town, developers had no choice.
Now there ARE easy to develop for consoles out there that Nintendo has to compete with. So what are you trying to say?
"That generation" meaning combined Gamecube and Gameboy Advance sales? Not exactly a fair comparison if so. The point is that the Xbox One is selling more than the Wii U specifically.
The PS4 and Xbox One both sold at a profit per unit from day 1. MS and Sony actually took away lessons from selling their consoles at a loss per unit last generation.
Nintendo's handheld business is still strong, I'm not disputing that (though the 3DS did see a decline in sales from the massive success of the DS). The matter of discussion is the future and potential success of Nintendo's next home console specifically.
The lesson of the Wii U is that strong first party software is not enough to rely on. Betting the NX farm on first party software would be following Einstein's definition of insanity -- doing something over again and expecting a different result.
My point is, you're acting like it won't be. Which is ridiculous.
Listen to yourself.
Highly doubt it, AMD will custom design GPU + ARM if customers want it.I'm thinking AMD wanted Nintendo to take the whole kit (CPU+GPU), Nintendo might have just wanted the GPU. Though I already said this. Considering Nintendo has worked with ArtX/ATI/AMD/ since N64, would love to heard/read what may have caused them to deviate.
Highly doubt it, AMD will custom design GPU + ARM if customers want it.
I think the only thing they can't design around is GPU+intel CPU for obvious reasons.
Because Nintendo has been so unsuccessful up til this point..
Right.
Its a huge deal!!! PS3 was notoriously hard to develop for because of its crazy architecture, same with PS2 and Xbox 360!
Listen to an ACTUAL DEVELOPER lay it out in this awesome article: http://gamingbolt.com/developer-explains-what-its-like-developing-for-each-console-ps3-being-the-hardest.
More of a reason to question what NV did (or AMD didn't) to cause Nintendo to basically end a working partnership that has gone back almost 20 years.
My guess is that nVidia already had an ARM SoC with a GPU. And that since the mobile devision has been bleeding money for years, nVidia basically offered to sell them Tegras at near cost, just so they can at least move product.
The WiiU is universally considered to be a failure. They aren't even making them anymore.
Devs abandoned the WiiU because of its low sales, and it being difficult to port to.
The NX may be "not hard" to develop for ground up games intended for it. But porting stuff to it will not be nearly as easy as porting between PS4/XboxOne/PC.
I guess the sentiment here is mostly the same, it's too bad Nintendo is going low powered gimmick again. AAA titles will be skipping this platform, again.
Between this and the Retro NES I am gonna be giving them some money for the first time in years.