Who entertains their kids with Pokemon go? Pokemon go is awful for your small kids. What parent hands their kid a cell phone and says go play in traffic to "catch em all little Timmy."Nintendo doesn't have control of those platforms. They are control freaks (remember the seal of quality?).
You are thinking too much about yourself. Think about children.
Pokemon Go is a great way to entertain your kids, but then they want your phone all the time. You would just get them a phone, but you are the only parent in the class that thinks an 8 year old is too young for a smartphone.
So Nintendo rolls out what is basically a gaming mobile device which you can give your kids instead of giving them yours (or their own) smartphone. Plus you as a parent can trust that Nintendo's app store won't have freemium crap or mature games. It's basically "My first smartphone."
The only way Nintendo can screw it up if if they go wifi only, as the magic of games like Pokemon Go need a data connection. Hopefully Nintendo will cut a deal with ATT or someone for a service plan.
Maybe, but I don't share that optimism.
To have cross platform games, they would need to share the same input interface, aka Touchscreen.
Maybe it's just the people around me, but most parents I know with kids in that age, all have iPads/iPods/tablets specially for them. It's where they install all those games ,where they Facetime with Grandpa and where they use YT on their own ...
As for the NX, I'm kinda disappointed. Now I have zero interests in that hardware.
Who entertains their kids with Pokemon go? Pokemon go is awful for your small kids. What parent hands their kid a cell phone and says go play in traffic to "catch em all little Timmy."
Everyone I know has a cheapo $150 tablet with angry birds and a few other f2p mobile games on it for their kids. The kids literally sit there in a trance playing these games. They don't need Pokemon go to be entertained. When they are at an age where you can actually turn them loose to play something like Pokemon go they should have a cell phone of their own.
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This device will probably be Nintendo's swan song. Maybe after the dust settles they will finally be forced to go software only like they should have long ago. Put the few decent titles they produce out on next gen PS, XBOX and PC and give up on these awkward hardware ventures. Trying to push a mobile device in the face of smartphones as powerful for gaming as they are now is Nintendo reasoning at its finest.
Apparently it is actively cooled:
That's a good thing! Means we might get something with some actual guts.
A possible Tegra X2 with 512 Pascal cores at a decent frequency should EASILY match the Xbone with its 768 GCN 1.0 SP's. Also keep in mind, Xbone only has 68GB/sec DDR3 memory interface.
Does anyone know the current bandwidth of the Tegra X1?
From what I know, mobile systems are almost always memory hamstrung due to narrow interfaces that save power. Maybe it will have a clever ED-RAM like Xbox has used for the past two generations.
Here a 750ti with 640 Maxwell cores beats out a 7850 Pitcairn (almost exact same as PS4) with its 1024 GCN SP's. http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/1589?vs=1662
750 TI has 86.4GB/sec, about 20% more than the Xbox One.
Tegra X1 on the 20nm process with 256 Maxwell cores has a 25.6 GB/s memory bandwidth.
If Nvidia can improve with 512 Pascal cores with a beefed up memory interface to maybe 40-50GB/s then they can definitely match the current console generation.
All that to say, even though I harp on Nvidia for vulture pricing, they are one of the best engineering firms in the world, and if they can build an incredible mobile SoC for Nintendo then I think the big N still has a chance.
The nice thing about using Tegra Next for this console is that it is going to have very good single threaded performance by virtue of the Denver mark 2 cores + A57 cores -- much faster performance than the Jaguars inside of the AMD console APUs.
We'll have to see what kind of GPU config it has, but it won't be long -- NV is detailing Tegra Next @ Hot Chips.
Now in 2015 and with the launch of the Tegra X1, we can finally begin putting the picture together. Erista as it turns out is something of a rapid release product for NVIDIA; what had been plans to produce a 16nm FF part in 2015 became plans to produce a 20nm part, with Erista to be that part. To pull together Erista NVIDIA would go for a quick time-to-market approach in SoC design, pairing up a Maxwell GPU with ARM Cortex A57 & A53 GPUs, to be produced on TSMCs 20nm SoC process.
If this thing is actively cooled... means then it's a hot chip and/or reduced battery life powering it and a fan.
So either we get extra weight for the larger battery, or a smaller length of time undocked.
Neither are especially appealing.
So Tegra X1 was a bit of a rushjob that had to be quickly ported to 20nm. Imagine what nVidia can do when they have proper time and a great 16nm process working well?
My BIGGEST fear is if Nintendo pulls an idiot move and this is all just a 20nm Tegra X1 and nothing else.
This is what I don't get: Nintendo's biggest success lately is the DS series and 3DS. They already have a good hand-held console. Why the focus to make the NX another hand-held?
If it's similar to the WiiU in size, for twin controllers on either side, it's too big for a hand-held, while the specs make it a lackluster console for 2017 debut. So it's like an in-between.
Again, suggesting that a smartphone is comparable with standalone mobile gaming devices is truly insane. I don't know how you could ever support that argument. We all live in the same reality.
(not to mention that the Wii U is a "failure" and yet Nintendo continues to make money from it and the 3DS and is really nowhere close to any kind of catastrophic meltdown)
What do you mean by "low powered" ?
Are you familiar with what Nvidia is offering for the NX?
What makes it a gimmick?
Hah, yeah X1 totally smells of rush job. I agree, it would be supremely stupid of Nintendo to use the X1 in commercially shipping NX consoles. X1 makes sense as part of an early dev platform, nothing more.
Who is to say that it doesn't operate at higher clockspeeds when docked for a TV? It could clock a lot higher with AC power and active cooling for 1080P/60 and then downclock on battery for something like 720P/30.
Then that is not good news for a mobile device. People are used to at least a nice 326 to 401 PPI crisp screen like their phones, this would look archaic in comparison.
Anyone with a cell phone has zero reason to buy mobile console.
Cell phones are useless for gaming though.
Who is to say that it doesn't operate at higher clockspeeds when docked for a TV? It could clock a lot higher with AC power and active cooling for 1080P/60 and then downclock on battery for something like 720P/30.
Then that is not good news for a mobile device. People are used to at least a nice 326 to 401 PPI crisp screen like their phones, this would look archaic in comparison.