Nintendo Wii's pitiful online gaming service

[randay]

if nintendo wants to go in that direction then they are doing a great job. and by that direction i mean a gaming system for very young children. however, even children can be competitive, and some skills just cant be developed without a competitive atmosphere. sometimes its all a game has to do to become a great game, just have good mechanics for people to compete with.

as far as being a great little console for very young children they are doing a great job, but its gonna turn off a lot of 2nd+ generation console gamers. like me.

 

[RandomFool]

I wouldn't say the Wii is aimed at children. It's aimed at pretty much any and everybody. I get the feeling most gamer-types are a bit put off that there's a gaming console that doesn't exist solely for their enjoyment.

That said the Wii's online service isn't great but I wouldn't call it pitiful. It's works most of the times I've tried to use it but friend codes are annoying.

 

[DivideBYZero]

Originally posted by: Inspector Jihad

Originally posted by: DivideBYZero

Originally posted by: Inspector Jihad

Originally posted by: DivideBYZero

Originally posted by: Xavier434

Originally posted by: VashHT
Even if they don't focus on it they don't have to totally gimp it when it is decided to add it in there. The only time I can really get together with my friends now is on the weekends and its really annoying that we have to put up with the absolutely horrible online implementation when we play during the week.

Ya, I don't disagree with you. I'm not going to take the fanboy approach and start claiming that they are doing a great job because there is a lot of room for improvement. I guess what I was trying to emphasize the most is their business strategy and how online gaming fits into it. Supporting online console gaming is not easy. Especially at first. They are just scraping the edges of this beast for now, but I am sure over time they will get better should they choose to continue to support it with many future games. It's probably going to be slow transition and learning curve though so it's best to be patient.

Meh, Nintendo have been doing online for years. They have nothing to learn. The SNES online system was only shut down a couple of years ago in Japan. It's a simple matter of economics. N are crapping money without needing to capture the type of gamer who plays multiplayer online games 7 days a week.

why the fuck does it bother you when someone who has paid for their wii vocalizes their disappointments?

Do I appear bothered?

yes

Well you need to go away and learn to accept that not everyone that doesn't thinks like you is pissed off with you, Angerboy. It's a counterpoint. Debate it or stop trolling.

 

[DivideBYZero]

Originally posted by: randay
if nintendo wants to go in that direction then they are doing a great job. and by that direction i mean a gaming system for very young children. however, even children can be competitive, and some skills just cant be developed without a competitive atmosphere. sometimes its all a game has to do to become a great game, just have good mechanics for people to compete with.

as far as being a great little console for very young children they are doing a great job, but its gonna turn off a lot of 2nd+ generation console gamers. like me.

I'm a first gen gamer and I love the Wii, as do many others my age. As I have said before the vocal minority, like yourself, lambaste the Wii in one or many of the following ways:

- It's a waggle fest/controls are a gimmick
- It's a GC2, nothing more
- Online sucks
- It's for very young children/kids/I'm an adult, honest, what? 15 is not grown up? But I shoot things, with blood!!

You see the counter point is this; The online is NOT comparable with the competing consoles offering, but in reality it doesn't matter. It's NOT competing on that. The device is selling nearly half a million units a month WITHOUT this holy grail of online splatterhouse type of game. While N produce games for entertainment, regardless of age group, the other consoles are producing efforts that still promote solitary play of games aimed at boys aged 14-22.

The Wii promotes interaction and social exchange when it's on. A PS3 with CoD4 promotes a darkened room, a headset, violence, profanity and four hour stretches of gameplay. Try sitting down in your front room with your GF every night, hogging the TV with that while she wants to watch ANTM. Not going to happen. In reality, the Wii is for Adults. You couldn't be more wrong when you claim it is for very young children.

 

[40Hands]

Also being a second generation gamer, :thumbsup: DBZ.

 

[Inspector Jihad]

Originally posted by: DivideBYZero

Originally posted by: Inspector Jihad

Originally posted by: DivideBYZero

Originally posted by: Inspector Jihad

Originally posted by: DivideBYZero

Originally posted by: Xavier434

Originally posted by: VashHT
Even if they don't focus on it they don't have to totally gimp it when it is decided to add it in there. The only time I can really get together with my friends now is on the weekends and its really annoying that we have to put up with the absolutely horrible online implementation when we play during the week.

Ya, I don't disagree with you. I'm not going to take the fanboy approach and start claiming that they are doing a great job because there is a lot of room for improvement. I guess what I was trying to emphasize the most is their business strategy and how online gaming fits into it. Supporting online console gaming is not easy. Especially at first. They are just scraping the edges of this beast for now, but I am sure over time they will get better should they choose to continue to support it with many future games. It's probably going to be slow transition and learning curve though so it's best to be patient.

Meh, Nintendo have been doing online for years. They have nothing to learn. The SNES online system was only shut down a couple of years ago in Japan. It's a simple matter of economics. N are crapping money without needing to capture the type of gamer who plays multiplayer online games 7 days a week.

why the fuck does it bother you when someone who has paid for their wii vocalizes their disappointments?

Do I appear bothered?

yes

Well you need to go away and learn to accept that not everyone that doesn't thinks like you is pissed off with you, Angerboy. It's a counterpoint. Debate it or stop trolling.

lol, you're the one who seems to have a problem with others have a differing opinion. i'm asking you started with that bullshit about the 360 reliability when someone mentioned the shitty wii online.

 

[DivideBYZero]

Originally posted by: Inspector Jihad

Originally posted by: DivideBYZero

Originally posted by: Inspector Jihad

Originally posted by: DivideBYZero

Originally posted by: Inspector Jihad

Originally posted by: DivideBYZero

Originally posted by: Xavier434

Originally posted by: VashHT
Even if they don't focus on it they don't have to totally gimp it when it is decided to add it in there. The only time I can really get together with my friends now is on the weekends and its really annoying that we have to put up with the absolutely horrible online implementation when we play during the week.

Ya, I don't disagree with you. I'm not going to take the fanboy approach and start claiming that they are doing a great job because there is a lot of room for improvement. I guess what I was trying to emphasize the most is their business strategy and how online gaming fits into it. Supporting online console gaming is not easy. Especially at first. They are just scraping the edges of this beast for now, but I am sure over time they will get better should they choose to continue to support it with many future games. It's probably going to be slow transition and learning curve though so it's best to be patient.

Meh, Nintendo have been doing online for years. They have nothing to learn. The SNES online system was only shut down a couple of years ago in Japan. It's a simple matter of economics. N are crapping money without needing to capture the type of gamer who plays multiplayer online games 7 days a week.

why the fuck does it bother you when someone who has paid for their wii vocalizes their disappointments?

Do I appear bothered?

yes

Well you need to go away and learn to accept that not everyone that doesn't thinks like you is pissed off with you, Angerboy. It's a counterpoint. Debate it or stop trolling.

lol, you're the one who seems to have a problem with others have a differing opinion. i'm asking you started with that bullshit about the 360 reliability when someone mentioned the shitty wii online.

You obviously cannot understand my standpoint. I'm suggesting that it is adequate for 98% of Wii users. I don'y have a problem with it.

As for the reliabilty comment, you're wrong. I agreed with a poster that mentioned it, I didn't start it and how can it be bullshit? I would suggest that going through up to FIVE consoles in it's current life span completely pisses all over a weaker than average online capability, but maybe online is even more kick ass when the console won't even boot, IDK...

 

[Xavier434]

Originally posted by: DivideBYZero

Originally posted by: Xavier434

Originally posted by: VashHT
Even if they don't focus on it they don't have to totally gimp it when it is decided to add it in there. The only time I can really get together with my friends now is on the weekends and its really annoying that we have to put up with the absolutely horrible online implementation when we play during the week.

Ya, I don't disagree with you. I'm not going to take the fanboy approach and start claiming that they are doing a great job because there is a lot of room for improvement. I guess what I was trying to emphasize the most is their business strategy and how online gaming fits into it. Supporting online console gaming is not easy. Especially at first. They are just scraping the edges of this beast for now, but I am sure over time they will get better should they choose to continue to support it with many future games. It's probably going to be slow transition and learning curve though so it's best to be patient.

Meh, Nintendo have been doing online for years. They have nothing to learn. The SNES online system was only shut down a couple of years ago in Japan. It's a simple matter of economics. N are crapping money without needing to capture the type of gamer who plays multiplayer online games 7 days a week.

They have never done it on a massive scale before. With that, comes learning curves. I am not claiming that they will not do it though. I am sure they can, but part of the reason is economics like you mentioned. They got plenty of money and online gaming being a cornerstone of their business plan is just not what they are aiming for right now. At best, I would say the Wii is testing those waters considering there is more online capabilities on it than any other Nintendo product to date. We'll see how it all pans out. It is much too soon to tell.

 

[DivideBYZero]

Originally posted by: Xavier434

Originally posted by: DivideBYZero

Originally posted by: Xavier434

Originally posted by: VashHT
Even if they don't focus on it they don't have to totally gimp it when it is decided to add it in there. The only time I can really get together with my friends now is on the weekends and its really annoying that we have to put up with the absolutely horrible online implementation when we play during the week.

Ya, I don't disagree with you. I'm not going to take the fanboy approach and start claiming that they are doing a great job because there is a lot of room for improvement. I guess what I was trying to emphasize the most is their business strategy and how online gaming fits into it. Supporting online console gaming is not easy. Especially at first. They are just scraping the edges of this beast for now, but I am sure over time they will get better should they choose to continue to support it with many future games. It's probably going to be slow transition and learning curve though so it's best to be patient.

Meh, Nintendo have been doing online for years. They have nothing to learn. The SNES online system was only shut down a couple of years ago in Japan. It's a simple matter of economics. N are crapping money without needing to capture the type of gamer who plays multiplayer online games 7 days a week.

They have never done it on a massive scale before. With that, comes learning curves. I am not claiming that they will not do it though. I am sure they can, but part of the reason is economics like you mentioned. They got plenty of money and online gaming being a cornerstone of their business plan is just not what they are aiming for right now. At best, I would say the Wii is testing those waters considering there is more online capabilities on it than any other Nintendo product to date. We'll see how it all pans out. It is much too soon to tell.

I think you're on the money. Glad someone can debate properly. :thumbsup:

 

[Sureshot324]

Originally posted by: Queasy

Originally posted by: randomlinh

Originally posted by: randay

Originally posted by: Auryg

Originally posted by: bearxor

Originally posted by: mugsCompared to Xbox Live, I've been pretty disappointed by the Wii's online features. They're a generation behind on their online stuff.

Just one? I mean, the only online service that the Wii has a leg up on is XBand.

Dreamcast's service was even better - and that was on 56k.

honest question, i forget, why did dreamcast fail and sega exit the console business?

no software support I think, at least for mainstream. And terrible advertising. One might also argue the ability to copy games so easily helped too.

And ultimately, money. Sega was still cash-strapped from their previous console. They didn't have the money to sustain their business, much less advertise. Sega decided to focus on software but was eventually bought by Sammy.

The Dreamcast got lost in the PS2 hype. At the time, most people believed Sony's ridiculous claims that the PS2 was god's gift to gamers and millions of times more powerful than anything that came before it. The PS1 was so successful that people had no reason to doubt Sony, and the internet didn't yet have enough influence to bring Sony's claims down to reality.

 

[Xavier434]

Originally posted by: Sureshot324

The Dreamcast got lost in the PS2 hype. At the time, most people believed Sony's ridiculous claims that the PS2 was god's gift to gamers and millions of times more powerful than anything that came before it. The PS1 was so successful that people had no reason to doubt Sony, and the internet didn't yet have enough influence to bring Sony's claims down to reality.

Ya, that plus it was the easiest console to hack ever. I remember a boot cd being released before the actual console hit store shelves....

 

[purbeast0]

Originally posted by: DivideBYZero

Originally posted by: Xavier434

Originally posted by: DivideBYZero

Originally posted by: Xavier434

Originally posted by: VashHT
Even if they don't focus on it they don't have to totally gimp it when it is decided to add it in there. The only time I can really get together with my friends now is on the weekends and its really annoying that we have to put up with the absolutely horrible online implementation when we play during the week.

Ya, I don't disagree with you. I'm not going to take the fanboy approach and start claiming that they are doing a great job because there is a lot of room for improvement. I guess what I was trying to emphasize the most is their business strategy and how online gaming fits into it. Supporting online console gaming is not easy. Especially at first. They are just scraping the edges of this beast for now, but I am sure over time they will get better should they choose to continue to support it with many future games. It's probably going to be slow transition and learning curve though so it's best to be patient.

Meh, Nintendo have been doing online for years. They have nothing to learn. The SNES online system was only shut down a couple of years ago in Japan. It's a simple matter of economics. N are crapping money without needing to capture the type of gamer who plays multiplayer online games 7 days a week.

They have never done it on a massive scale before. With that, comes learning curves. I am not claiming that they will not do it though. I am sure they can, but part of the reason is economics like you mentioned. They got plenty of money and online gaming being a cornerstone of their business plan is just not what they are aiming for right now. At best, I would say the Wii is testing those waters considering there is more online capabilities on it than any other Nintendo product to date. We'll see how it all pans out. It is much too soon to tell.

I think you're on the money. Glad someone can debate properly. :thumbsup:

haha someone agrees with him and they are proper debaters.

 

[Xavier434]

Originally posted by: purbeast0

haha someone agrees with him and they are proper debaters.

You know you agree with me too.

 

[purbeast0]

Originally posted by: Xavier434

Originally posted by: purbeast0

haha someone agrees with him and they are proper debaters.

You know you agree with me too.

i think the wii sucks in general, and their online system is a freaking joke.

but i agree their reasons for it being a joke is because like you said they just don't care about it and don't need it to succeed.

ps3 and 360 NEED online to succeed at this point.

 

[Inspector Jihad]

Originally posted by: purbeast0

Originally posted by: DivideBYZero

Originally posted by: Xavier434

Originally posted by: DivideBYZero

Originally posted by: Xavier434

Originally posted by: VashHT
Even if they don't focus on it they don't have to totally gimp it when it is decided to add it in there. The only time I can really get together with my friends now is on the weekends and its really annoying that we have to put up with the absolutely horrible online implementation when we play during the week.

Ya, I don't disagree with you. I'm not going to take the fanboy approach and start claiming that they are doing a great job because there is a lot of room for improvement. I guess what I was trying to emphasize the most is their business strategy and how online gaming fits into it. Supporting online console gaming is not easy. Especially at first. They are just scraping the edges of this beast for now, but I am sure over time they will get better should they choose to continue to support it with many future games. It's probably going to be slow transition and learning curve though so it's best to be patient.

Meh, Nintendo have been doing online for years. They have nothing to learn. The SNES online system was only shut down a couple of years ago in Japan. It's a simple matter of economics. N are crapping money without needing to capture the type of gamer who plays multiplayer online games 7 days a week.

They have never done it on a massive scale before. With that, comes learning curves. I am not claiming that they will not do it though. I am sure they can, but part of the reason is economics like you mentioned. They got plenty of money and online gaming being a cornerstone of their business plan is just not what they are aiming for right now. At best, I would say the Wii is testing those waters considering there is more online capabilities on it than any other Nintendo product to date. We'll see how it all pans out. It is much too soon to tell.

I think you're on the money. Glad someone can debate properly. :thumbsup:

haha someone agrees with him and they are proper debaters.

:laugh:

 

[Xavier434]

Originally posted by: purbeast0


ps3 and 360 NEED online to succeed at this point.

From strictly a business POV, it kind of makes one wonder which business strategy was more brilliant. The idea that a console with hardly any online support coming even close to being a success let alone the leader in terms of profits is a bit absurd when you really think about it. Personally, I haven't drawn any conclusions, but it's really interesting to watch how it develops.

 

[purbeast0]

Originally posted by: Xavier434

Originally posted by: purbeast0


ps3 and 360 NEED online to succeed at this point.

From strictly a business POV, it kind of makes one wonder which business strategy was more brilliant. The idea that a console with hardly any online support coming even close to being a success let alone the leader in terms of profits is a bit absurd when you really think about it. Personally, I haven't drawn any conclusions, but it's really interesting to watch how it develops.

well they both are going to completely different ways.

as these terms have been thrown around a million times, the wii is for "casual and non" gamers where the ps3 and xbox360 are for more "hardcore" gamers.

the "casual and non" gamers dont give a crap about online really, but the "hardcore" gamers do.

however the more and more i hear about people who owns wiis, the more and more "hardcore" gamers are stopping their support for the wii.

and this is all from personal opinion and experience, and not true hard facts so dont act as if i presented it that way

 

[Inspector Jihad]

Originally posted by: Xavier434

Originally posted by: purbeast0


ps3 and 360 NEED online to succeed at this point.

From strictly a business POV, it kind of makes one wonder which business strategy was more brilliant. The idea that a console with hardly any online support coming even close to being a success let alone the leader in terms of profits is a bit absurd when you really think about it. Personally, I haven't drawn any conclusions, but it's really interesting to watch how it develops.

sony and ms have bigger plans which include selling videos and music online as well. can't do that without a good online setup. also, most big sellers like halo and madden NEED an online compnent to be successful. nintendo doesn't have many games like that...all i can think of is mariokart and ssbb. no one gives a shit if trauma center has online or not.

 

[Xavier434]

Originally posted by: Inspector Jihad

Originally posted by: Xavier434

Originally posted by: purbeast0


ps3 and 360 NEED online to succeed at this point.

From strictly a business POV, it kind of makes one wonder which business strategy was more brilliant. The idea that a console with hardly any online support coming even close to being a success let alone the leader in terms of profits is a bit absurd when you really think about it. Personally, I haven't drawn any conclusions, but it's really interesting to watch how it develops.

sony and ms have bigger plans which include selling videos and music online as well. can't do that without a good online setup. also, most big sellers like halo and madden NEED an online compnent to be successful. nintendo doesn't have many games like that...all i can think of is mariokart and ssbb. no one gives a shit if trauma center has online or not.

Not supporting online capabilities also means your expenses for the development and maintaining of each game are much lower too. Personally, I love playing certain games online and there others which I will be happy either way. Nintendo tends to release more games which really don't benefit from online play as much. I wouldn't spend the extra money on online capabilities for those games either since they will sell pretty much the same either way. I feel that is a wise business decision. On the other hand, MS and Sony add some sort of online component to nearly everything. I question whether or not that was such a wise decision when it comes to certain titles.

The selling of anything but video games is what I would consider a separate business at this point in time, but I believe that MS and Sony should be considered amongst the founding fathers when it comes to blending those industries together in terms of the digital world.

It really is a great age to be a gamer.

 

[randay]

Originally posted by: DivideBYZero

Originally posted by: randay
if nintendo wants to go in that direction then they are doing a great job. and by that direction i mean a gaming system for very young children. however, even children can be competitive, and some skills just cant be developed without a competitive atmosphere. sometimes its all a game has to do to become a great game, just have good mechanics for people to compete with.

as far as being a great little console for very young children they are doing a great job, but its gonna turn off a lot of 2nd+ generation console gamers. like me.

I'm a first gen gamer and I love the Wii, as do many others my age. As I have said before the vocal minority, like yourself, lambaste the Wii in one or many of the following ways:

- It's a waggle fest/controls are a gimmick
- It's a GC2, nothing more
- Online sucks
- It's for very young children/kids/I'm an adult, honest, what? 15 is not grown up? But I shoot things, with blood!!

You see the counter point is this; The online is NOT comparable with the competing consoles offering, but in reality it doesn't matter. It's NOT competing on that. The device is selling nearly half a million units a month WITHOUT this holy grail of online splatterhouse type of game. While N produce games for entertainment, regardless of age group, the other consoles are producing efforts that still promote solitary play of games aimed at boys aged 14-22.

The Wii promotes interaction and social exchange when it's on. A PS3 with CoD4 promotes a darkened room, a headset, violence, profanity and four hour stretches of gameplay. Try sitting down in your front room with your GF every night, hogging the TV with that while she wants to watch ANTM. Not going to happen. In reality, the Wii is for Adults. You couldn't be more wrong when you claim it is for very young children.

The bold part pretty much proves my point. being this is your first console, youve never had much experience with the things wii is lacking and dont fully understand what it can bring to the table.

you cannot say that i am completely wrong about it being for young children since many aspects of what little online gameplay it supports is molded and designed around protecting children from the dangers of being online with strangers.

 

[randay]

Originally posted by: Xavier434

Originally posted by: Inspector Jihad

Originally posted by: Xavier434

Originally posted by: purbeast0


ps3 and 360 NEED online to succeed at this point.

From strictly a business POV, it kind of makes one wonder which business strategy was more brilliant. The idea that a console with hardly any online support coming even close to being a success let alone the leader in terms of profits is a bit absurd when you really think about it. Personally, I haven't drawn any conclusions, but it's really interesting to watch how it develops.

sony and ms have bigger plans which include selling videos and music online as well. can't do that without a good online setup. also, most big sellers like halo and madden NEED an online compnent to be successful. nintendo doesn't have many games like that...all i can think of is mariokart and ssbb. no one gives a shit if trauma center has online or not.

Not supporting online capabilities also means your expenses for the development and maintaining of each game are much lower too. Personally, I love playing certain games online and there others which I will be happy either way. Nintendo tends to release more games which really don't benefit from online play as much. I wouldn't spend the extra money on online capabilities for those games either since they will sell pretty much the same either way. I feel that is a wise business decision. On the other hand, MS and Sony add some sort of online component to nearly everything. I question whether or not that was such a wise decision when it comes to certain titles.

The selling of anything but video games is what I would consider a separate business at this point in time, but I believe that MS and Sony should be considered amongst the founding fathers when it comes to blending those industries together in terms of the digital world.

It really is a great age to be a gamer.

unfortunately saving money for the devs and nintendo does not translate into a plus for consumers. i dont think any gamers really say "well at least they are saving money by not giving me this or that".

i feel the PC had blended gaming and media industries well before any console manufacturer did so. they are just trying to bring it to console now because digital distribution is becoming more and more feasible.

 

[Xavier434]

The Wii caters a little bit to everyone. It's not just for adults or children or casuals or hardcore gamers. However, like all consoles, you will have some games which target a certain age bracket more so than another. The Wii has less titles which strictly target adults unlike the PS3 and 360. Instead, they have a lot more titles which people of all ages will enjoy. As long as you are having fun play the game, it is a good game for you.

Personally, during an average day when I think about playing video games I consider my choices which include all of the consoles and my PC. When it comes to choosing between the PC, 360, and PS3 I really only consider the differences in the games I own for each of them since they all provide a similar gaming experience which I love. However, when it comes to choosing to play the Wii over the other 3 choices, it's a lot more than that. The type of experience and enjoyment I get with the Wii is much different and therefore requires a different kind of mood for me to want to play it. Sometimes I am in the mood to play the Wii while at the same time I am not in mood to play video games on any other platform. Other times, it is the opposite. Therefore, I have concluded that while the Wii does not offer many features that the other platforms do provide so well, it has offered me a choice to experience something different and fun that has never been offered to me before.

I believe that is a huge reason why they are so successful. While many people believe that the Wii is competing with MS and Sony, the truth is that much of their success is because there are a ton of consumers who look at the Wii just as if there is no competition at all strictly due to that unique experience. Nintendo is playing this business game in a different ballfield (not better, just different). Now, whether you enjoy that experience or not is a completely different story and one which can be debated upon till the end of time.

 

[Xavier434]

Originally posted by: randay

unfortunately saving money for the devs and nintendo does not translate into a plus for consumers. i dont think any gamers really say "well at least they are saving money by not giving me this or that".

i feel the PC had blended gaming and media industries well before any console manufacturer did so. they are just trying to bring it to console now because digital distribution is becoming more and more feasible.

Ya, I won't argue with any of that. Although I will say that saving money does not translate into a negative for consumers either. It is strictly on a case by case (game by game) basis. For example, I could care less if Mario Galaxy or Warioware had any online capabilities. Nintendo could have added them some how, but why bother if it doesn't make it that much more fun and increase sales?

 

[Queasy]

Originally posted by: randay
i feel the PC had blended gaming and media industries well before any console manufacturer did so. they are just trying to bring it to console now because digital distribution is becoming more and more feasible.

Well, the PC has the advantage in that it is in a constant upgrade cycle both in terms of hardware and software. Steam started out terribly but Valve has been able to build it up to what it is today because they've been able to constantly update the platform since 2002 (and before if you want to count development before it was announced).

Consoles are locked for 5 years for hardware and have been locked for the most part in terms of software until this generation. That leaves less room for experimentation to see what works and what doesn't in the console space. MS did some experimenting with Media Center functionality and Live Arcade with the original Xbox but that was towards the end of the Xbox's life and both were very limited functionally and required discs.

Now, for the first time, all three consoles of this generation can have functionality added and refined via downloads but they are still limited by static hardware.

 

[DivideBYZero]

Originally posted by: purbeast0

Originally posted by: DivideBYZero

Originally posted by: Xavier434

Originally posted by: DivideBYZero

Originally posted by: Xavier434

Originally posted by: VashHT
Even if they don't focus on it they don't have to totally gimp it when it is decided to add it in there. The only time I can really get together with my friends now is on the weekends and its really annoying that we have to put up with the absolutely horrible online implementation when we play during the week.

Ya, I don't disagree with you. I'm not going to take the fanboy approach and start claiming that they are doing a great job because there is a lot of room for improvement. I guess what I was trying to emphasize the most is their business strategy and how online gaming fits into it. Supporting online console gaming is not easy. Especially at first. They are just scraping the edges of this beast for now, but I am sure over time they will get better should they choose to continue to support it with many future games. It's probably going to be slow transition and learning curve though so it's best to be patient.

Meh, Nintendo have been doing online for years. They have nothing to learn. The SNES online system was only shut down a couple of years ago in Japan. It's a simple matter of economics. N are crapping money without needing to capture the type of gamer who plays multiplayer online games 7 days a week.

They have never done it on a massive scale before. With that, comes learning curves. I am not claiming that they will not do it though. I am sure they can, but part of the reason is economics like you mentioned. They got plenty of money and online gaming being a cornerstone of their business plan is just not what they are aiming for right now. At best, I would say the Wii is testing those waters considering there is more online capabilities on it than any other Nintendo product to date. We'll see how it all pans out. It is much too soon to tell.

I think you're on the money. Glad someone can debate properly. :thumbsup:

haha someone agrees with him and they are proper debaters.

I agreed with him. Are you sure you read the thread, or too busy trolling to add value?