No amount of alcohol, sausage, or bacon is safe according to cancer experts

[sdifox]

Smells like this was written by a butt-hurt vegan or something.

Nope, preserved meat is crap. And we all know what ethanol does to your body. It is a neurotoxin.

 

[MtnMan]

Everyone and everything that consumes Dihydrogen Monoxide will die.

 

[DietDrThunder]

Everyone and everything that consumes Dihydrogen Monoxide will die.

Especially since it has a boiling point of 100 degrees C.

 

[Rifter]

Id rather die happy eating what i want that die pissed off that all i ate in life was whatever the cancer police recommend at the time.

Also note how that always changes, first margarine was bad for you so eat butter , then it wasnt, then cholesterol in eggs was bad, then it wasnt. They keep flip flopping on whats good and bad for you so often there is no point in trying to keep up with it.

 

[GoodRevrnd]

Nope, preserved meat is crap. And we all know what ethanol does to your body. It is a neurotoxin.

I'd rather die than never eat jamon again.

Articles like this are useless fear mongering. Even if "no amount is safe," telling people this isn't going to achieve anything. The recommendation just comes off as hyperbole and people will tune it out. These articles never actually go into risk profiles. If reducing consumption cut your increased risk by 80% (for example) you might affect a change in behavior, rather than proclaiming "IT'S ALL BAD!!" and expecting people to abstain for a 100% increased risk reduction.

Time to start putting Prop 65 warnings on all our food.

 

[Homerboy]

Haven't sausages beer and bacon been eaten for 100s of years?

 

[Red Squirrel]

It seems they keep finding so much stuff that causes cancer now days, but are people actually getting cancer from these things? There was a recent study saying that coffee causes cancer, but there are probably more people that drink or have drinked coffee than there arnt and you don't see half the population dying of cancer. Though cancer rates ARE going up so there obviously are some modern things that are causing it. Lot more people getting cancer at a young age too.

 

[ultimatebob]

Bah... my grandfather drank a glass of scotch every day, regularly ate bacon wrapped filets for lunch, and smoked two cigars a day. He lived to be 98, and didn't die of cancer. I laugh at your stupid medical studies.

 

[lxskllr]

Haven't sausages beer and bacon been eaten for 100s of years?

Yea, but nitrites(Probably the biggest issue) have only been used for ~100 years. I believe cancer of the digestive system increased when nitrites were first used, and the allowable amounts were decreased by the government in answer to that. I'm a little fuzzy on that last part, so you might want to research it before breaking that factoid out at parties, but nitrites are unequivocally bad. I don't believe there's any dispute of that.

 

[ElFenix]

Who Wants to Live Forever https://g.co/kgs/G3RKYb

 

[Mayne]

I'm posting from 6 feet under right now, oxygen is getting a bit low...but thats okay.

 

[sdifox]

I would have preferred Freddy lived a little longer

 

[GoodRevrnd]

Yea, but nitrites(Probably the biggest issue) have only been used for ~100 years. I believe cancer of the digestive system increased when nitrites were first used, and the allowable amounts were decreased by the government in answer to that. I'm a little fuzzy on that last part, so you might want to research it before breaking that factoid out at parties, but nitrites are unequivocally bad. I don't believe there's any dispute of that.

Isn't the regulated level in meats lower than what naturally occurs in many common vegetables?

 

[lxskllr]

Isn't the regulated level in meats lower than what naturally occurs in many common vegetables?

I don't know. It isn't something I've paid a lot of attention to in the past, so my knowledge falls in the "Huh, that's interesting" category.

I love cured meats. They're my favorite kind of meat, but I've been trying to cut down on nitrites. When I get jerky, I make sure it's nitrite free, and I've been getting uncured hotdogs lately. They're like 3* the price of regular beef dogs at aldi, but they do taste better. Dunno about 3* better, but it helps take the sting out of the price. If someone were interested, salt cured bacon should be available. I know it used to be. You have to rinse it off first, and it's been known to get a little mold on it, but it tastes good, and is traditional. I don't usually make bacon at the house, but I'd look for that if I did.

 

[Mayne]

dried meats and gasolline is out of control...fucking ridiculous.

 

[sdifox]

dried meats and gasolline is out of control...fucking ridiculous.

You smoke, that is major carcinogen right there.

 

[rh71]

bowel cancer though...

 

[crashtech]

I'd rather enjoy a short life than suffer through a long one.

 

[BarkingGhostar]

Who Wants to Live Forever https://g.co/kgs/G3RKYb

Certainly not Lazarus Long.

 

[William Gaatjes]

You do not have to worry. The start of tumors happens all the time in our bodies. We have this all the time. It is just that when we are healthy and our immune system functions properly, we get rid of any hostile cell all the time. We get infected by viruses and bacteria all the time. We get radiated all the time. The molecular machine in our cells is always under stress all the time. Especially those cells that come in close contact with the outside world. That also means cells in our digestive system.
It is just that with pollution, unhealthy lifestyles, overweight, stress, lack of rest and sleep and aging, we increase the probability that one of those cells will develop in a tumor.
Now combine all those effects and the probability increases seriously.
So, what is your lifestyle going to be ?

 

[Ventanni]

Bah... my grandfather drank a glass of scotch every day, regularly ate bacon wrapped filets for lunch, and smoked two cigars a day. He lived to be 98, and didn't die of cancer. I laugh at your stupid medical studies.

You will always find exceptions when conducting population studies. Just like your grandfather drank scotch, regularly ate bacon, and smoked cigars, yet still lived a long life, you will also find the health nut that dies in his 50s. But that's not how statistics and population studies work.

When you study trends of large populations, you can absolutely see changes in diet moving the trend line. We have long recognized and understood a direct correlation between dietary choices and population health (even though we have not always been correct on just what the best dietary choices are), but I think the general population misses out on the most important key factor when looking at the data. The issue isn't that drinking booze, eating bacon, and chowing down on sausage will kill you eventually. We will all die eventually. The issue is that the worse your health, the progressively, if not exponentially more it costs to keep you alive. When you have a general population exhibiting poor dietary choices, and as a result is in generally poor health, you're going to have exorbitant health care costs and loss of productivity.

In other words, we pay dearly for it. And, you pay dearly for your neighbor's poor dietary habits, too. The United States has one of the unhealthiest populations in the world because we enjoy such a surplus in food production of all types, and as a result, also has the highest health care costs. It's not all directly a result of poor diet (waste and inefficiency contributes a lot, too), but it's a very large factor contributing to it.

I've been saying this for some time, but when looking at key challenges of the United States in the next 50 years, there are 5 of them. But, we can only afford two:

1. Rising health care costs
2. Deforestation, Soil Erosion, and Natural Resource management
3. Global Warming (debatable)
4. Rising cost of our military to remain competitive
5. Repairing our infrastructure

These are all multi-trillion dollar problems, but making serious dietary changes pretty much knocks out two, potentially three of these problems, while saving money in the process. It's staggering how much is affected by human health, and its staggering just how much our personal dietary choices impact our neighbors.

 

[postmortemIA]

1. People get unhealthy, die younger
2. Less people remain on Earth
3. Next generation starts off in a better conditions
Sounds to me nature is in a correction course.