No Country For Old Men

Feb 10, 2000
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Last night my GF and I went to see the new Coen brothers film, No Country For Old Men, currently in limited release (we saw it at the grungy Uptown theater in Minneapolis).

Wow. I don't recall EVER seeing a more perfectly made film. The writing (which I am told is very true to the Cormac McCarthy novel), the casting, the acting, the direction, the cinematography - all just amazing.

The movie is relentlessly dark, and very violent. I had envisioned a return to the Coens' sensibility in making Blood Simple (also a very violent film taking place in west Texas), but if anything this is far bloodier and makes fewer accommodations to the audience's comfort.

The bad guy, Anton Chigurh (played by Javier Bardem, sporting a haircut that makes him look like he failed his audition to be the fifth Ramone), is one of the great villians in the history of modern film. He conveys a sense of menace and dangerousness that in many ways surpasses even a Hannibal Lecter, in that he seems completely emotionless (other that slight bemusement) about killing anyone and everyone who so much as inconveniences him.

On the opposite end of the spectrum, Tommy Lee Jones is brilliant as lawman Ed Tom Bell. Jones is just perfect in this role - the character is a morally-upstanding Texas sheriff, and he looks every bit the sun-burnt Texan badass. Believe it or not, Josh Brolin is also excellent, and the rest of the cast is amazing - every little bit part is perfectly cast, and even the actors who have one or two lines deliver them brilliantly.

So far every review of this movie, more or less, has been extremely positive. My view is that critics tend to appreciate the excellence of the filmmaking and are tolerant of the extremely dark nature of the film, and I imagine many people who see the movie won't be happy with it (as my GF was not), simply because it is so bleak. For me, this is a 5-star film, and one of the best films in the past several years, but I will be interested to hear what others have to say about it.
 

Modelworks

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It easily gets my vote for best film I have seen this year.
The cinemtography is great.
 

chuckywang

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The film had no ending...I mean, a lot of the scenes just seemed so random and didn't do anything to advance the plot.
 
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Originally posted by: chuckywang
The film had no ending...I mean, a lot of the scenes just seemed so random and didn't do anything to advance the plot.

I don't think it's fair to say it had no ending - it's just that it may not have had the ending you wanted. I don't agree that there were "a lot of scenes" that were dispensable - really the only one I can think of that didn't specifically advance the plot was the one with Tommy Lee and his father, and that was still a brilliantly acted and shot bit of character exposition.
 

weezergirl

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i've been hearing such great reviews about this movie but the trailer looks so random and doesn't interest me at all. then again...i'm a girl. i don't mind "bleak" or "violent" movies though.
 

pyonir

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I love dark films...I was looking forward to this from the first time i saw the trailer. I can't wait to see it...
 

maddogchen

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saw this movie friday, the movie let me down. long and drawn out at the end. the bad guy is brilliantly played though. Tommy Lee Jones' character seemed useless.

A lot of scenes that went against the norm. You expect one thing but it doesn't turn out that way which contributed to it letting me down.
 

bigrash

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Feb 20, 2001
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I won't read this thread cause I'm afraid of spoilers and I've been wanting to see this.
 

krotchy

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*SPOILERS*

I gotta be honest. Everything about the movie was great but the end. If it had ended at the car accident so we dont know if the killer survives I would have loved it. Also I hated that insanely boring and pointless last scene with Tommy Lee Jones. Basically end it as soon as the car accident happens and it would have been one of the best movies in recent memory. Instead I left the theater with a sour taste in my mouth and annoyed. Once I got over the ending the next day I was able to focus on all the great things about it and hold onto some joy.
 

MaxDepth

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****** SPOILERS **************

Originally posted by: Don Vito Corleone
Originally posted by: chuckywang
The film had no ending...I mean, a lot of the scenes just seemed so random and didn't do anything to advance the plot.

I don't think it's fair to say it had no ending - it's just that it may not have had the ending you wanted. I don't agree that there were "a lot of scenes" that were dispensable - really the only one I can think of that didn't specifically advance the plot was the one with Tommy Lee and his father, and that was still a brilliantly acted and shot bit of character exposition.

I can't remember it exactly but I think that old man was his uncle or a friend of the family. Tommy Lee is now older than his dad was when he died. (He outlived his dad by two years.) And I think it is a great scene because you actually get understand that in the whole movie, his character is now actually afraid. He is afraid of being old. I am guessing that in his line of work, he expected to go out in a blaze of glory or in the line of work. Now that he is retiring, he is afraid of what the day may hold for him.

And that older guy understands it and tries to tell him not to worry (in some many words). Even at the end, in retirement with his wife, his character is afraid of the nothing that comes with retirement. Will someone wait for him and shoot him down because he will be too old to defend himself? Wow, that is pretty powerful statement in that movie where nearly everyone related to that one bad guy died.

As for the haircut, it took me awhile, but I realized the movie was set sometime around 1979-1980.

So...what's it going to be? Heads or tails.


 

Descartes

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For me, it's one of those movies that make less sense when you start to analyze it, but it's paradoxical in the sense that it makes no sense unless you do analyze it. See, I just confused myself, and that's about how I feel about the movie.

I thoroughly enjoyed the movie though, but I tend to simply skirt over all the lingering questions rather than let them bother me. Who got the money? Was Anton really in the room? Did the sheriff make a deal? Why didn't Woody's character go after the money? Who was Woody's character anyway? Who cares? Too many questions start to detract from the fun for me.

The ending was an abrupt change of pace in the story and intensity. It was anticlimactic for me, but mostly because I didn't anticipate it as being a closing so I wasn't listening as intently as I might have otherwise.

Anyway, it's worth paying to see for sure.
 

torpid

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Originally posted by: Descartes
For me, it's one of those movies that make less sense when you start to analyze it, but it's paradoxical in the sense that it makes no sense unless you do analyze it. See, I just confused myself, and that's about how I feel about the movie.

I thoroughly enjoyed the movie though, but I tend to simply skirt over all the lingering questions rather than let them bother me. Who got the money? Was Anton really in the room? Did the sheriff make a deal? Why didn't Woody's character go after the money? Who was Woody's character anyway? Who cares? Too many questions start to detract from the fun for me.

The ending was an abrupt change of pace in the story and intensity. It was anticlimactic for me, but mostly because I didn't anticipate it as being a closing so I wasn't listening as intently as I might have otherwise.

Anyway, it's worth paying to see for sure.



I believe in the book, anton got the money and took it to his employer. It was not as clear in the film. Anton coming back twice would indicate that he probably got the money to me.

He was in the room, yes.

Why would the sheriff have made a deal?

Woody's character was hired by the "other people" who were involved in the deal gone bad. Not sure why he didn't take the money, though.
 

EvilYoda

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I saw this over the weekend...not many of my friends would have appreciated it, so I'm glad I went alone (like I do to a lot of fall/winter Oscar-fare movies). I absolutely loved it...the pacing, cinematography, acting, violence and locations were just perfect. Now to catch up on all the other movies I've missed
 

MaxDepth

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******** Mucho Grande Spoilers *****************

1) The Mexican Gang got Josh Brolin's information from his truck at the "deal gone bad scene" and followed his wife and her grandma to the bus terminal. There they got Josh Brolin's information and the hotel where he was staying. Josh was still expecting Anton to come so he didn't really see the Mexicans until it was too late. They killed him and got the money.

Or did they...

2) The two corporate guys worked for Stephan Root (Milton from office space), Anton whacks them because the deal went bad. Anton kills Stephan because not only did the deal go bad but he sent Woody Harrelson after him. Woody knows him because Anton was a killing machine in Nam.

3) He kills Josh's wife.
 

Mucho

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******** Mucho Grande Spoilers *****************

Having seen the movie in question, I still cant figure out three things: who got the money did he kill Josh's wife (why was he checking the bottom of his shoe as he exited the house) and what the heck was Tommy Lee Jones rambling about at the end.
 

torpid

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Originally posted by: Mucho
******** Mucho Grande Spoilers *****************

Having seen the movie in question, I still cant figure out three things: who got the money did he kill Josh's wife (why was he checking the bottom of his shoe as he exited the house) and what the heck was Tommy Lee Jones rambling about at the end.

Chigurh got the money, he killed the wife (checked his shoe for blood I assume), and he was rambling about his father.
 

PhaZe

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Originally posted by: MaxDepth
******** Mucho Grande Spoilers *****************

1) The Mexican Gang got Josh Brolin's information from his truck at the "deal gone bad scene" and followed his wife and her grandma to the bus terminal. There they got Josh Brolin's information and the hotel where he was staying. Josh was still expecting Anton to come so he didn't really see the Mexicans until it was too late. They killed him and got the money.

Or did they...

2) The two corporate guys worked for Stephan Root (Milton from office space), Anton whacks them because the deal went bad. Anton kills Stephan because not only did the deal go bad but he sent Woody Harrelson after him. Woody knows him because Anton was a killing machine in Nam.

3) He kills Josh's wife.

SPOILER QUESTION (or whatever?)

How do you know that Woody knew him from Nam? Was that in the book or something?
 

cw42

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so i skipped every post with a spoiler in it. is this movie worth watching?
 

cherrytwist

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Saw this last night.

Thoroughly enjoyed it.

Will definitely watch it again once it's released on DVD.

If you're like me and only make it to the theater a few times a year, go see it!
 

Agentbolt

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I'm sick of this new "make your own ending" trend. It's an easy way to cover up "Well we didn't feel like writing an ending so do it yourself". Not saying that happened in this movie, but the Sopranos stuck me as doing that.

If I want to make up my own ending, I might as well just make up my own movie. Tell me what happened, dammit.
 
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