No love for Sony Xperia Z3?

[Bateluer]

Most people don't care because SONY does not know how to do logistics. Their phones don't show up here or, if they do, they're very limited.

Its not that they don't know how, they've publicly stated they don't NA launches.

 

[paperwastage]

Sony's phones have such little presence in the US, thats why there's no interest. :/

Sony's 6 month release schedule is kinda dumb. The new model is announced right as the previous model starts getting annoucements at US carriers. They need to stop that, move to an annual refresh and global launch.

At least, the small changes add up from the Z1 to the Z2 to the Z3.




What is the implication of this? No Wideband LTE support or just limitations to international roaming?

People say Sony does 6month because that's what consumers in Japan (their core market ) wants. Still doesn't resolve them taking 4 months to sell the device in USA. At least T-Mobile is carrying the z3, hopefully at launch

That phone is 100% compatible on T-Mobile 3G/(wideband)LTE. But its not fully compatible on att or other (international) networks. Seeing that the other z3 have more than 9 LTE band support and this one only has 3, it is gimped. If you will stay on T-Mobile for the near future, it works fine....

 

[npaladin-2000]

T-Mobile and the FCC won't necessarily report on bands that are not of interest to them. T-Mobile won't always tell you about non-T-Mobile bands,and the FCC will never bother with non-US bands. And I'm not sure which FCC filing is for the T-Mobile one, the only one I found had Band 13 LTE.

 

[s44]

They should be throwing their weight into implementing better cameras than their competition - and actually showcase them more through ads. It's not like they don't possess the sensor expertise.

Last I checked, Sony was *still* keeping their camera and smartphone divisions walled off from each other... which is why Sony sensors actually performed better in Samsung phones.

 

[Trader05]

PS4 remote play? anybody?

 

[Anubis]

is it on Verizon - NO

don't care

 

[npaladin-2000]

is it on Verizon - NO

don't care

Actually it looks like it will be. The one Z3 I found on the FCC had Band 13 support.

 

[paperwastage]

T-Mobile and the FCC won't necessarily report on bands that are not of interest to them. T-Mobile won't always tell you about non-T-Mobile bands,and the FCC will never bother with non-US bands. And I'm not sure which FCC filing is for the T-Mobile one, the only one I found had Band 13 LTE.

yeah, but if a band isn't approved by FCC, it wouldn't be enabled in the hardware and you can't use it anyway

(exceptions would be Nexus 4's hidden band 4 LTE....Google had to legally disable band 4 entirely in the subsequent firmware update

or dormant band 4 LTE on Verizon phones that were enabled later via firmware upgrade)

Actually it looks like it will be. The one Z3 I found on the FCC had Band 13 support.

but no CDMA support for Verizon's bands... Verizon said they'll be doing LTE-only devices at end-2014... one could dream...

 

[dawheat]

The Z2 seemed quite competitive against other Android flagships, though on the larger side. Great battery life, IP certified, good build quality, light skin - seemed like it could have done well in NA with the right support and marketing.

But as HTC has shown us, maybe the right support and marketing to get NA consumers excited is harder than it looks.

But the Z3 doesn't even seem to qualify as a Z2S - you get basically the exact same phone with a slightly higher clocked SOC? A bit more compact with a bit smaller battery. Calling it the Z3 diminishes the importance of each model.

 

[Red Storm]

Calling it the Z3 diminishes the importance of each model.

Releasing them every few months also does a great job of diminishing each model's importance.

 

[dawheat]

Releasing them every few months also does a great job of diminishing each model's importance.

Yeah but if the changes were material, then I'd get it somewhat. At least maybe the S805 with OIS added to the camera, I'd say whatever. But to make such an embarrassingly small change and call it the Z3 is stupid.

 

[Aristotelian]

Most people don't care because SONY does not know how to do logistics. Their phones don't show up here or, if they do, they're very limited.

By 'here' I take it you mean in the USA? I can only speak for Europe - Sony's phones are well released here, and they are all over the place.

I think they sell well here. I'm not sure why their release in the USA is so slow. Essentially, I'm happy to compare Sony's flagship phones these days with flagship phones from other brands.

To the OP who owns Sony shares - on my view, there is a general sort of Sony 'hate'. I had the latest Sony Vaio Z series (with sheet battery) and it was great - but many of my colleagues (who buy macbooks, or else entry level lenovo laptops) would complain about this sony 'tax'. A sheet battery was worth 140 euros to me, but it wasn't worth it to the mac users. The long and short of this is that Sony has historically been a premium brand but there is some kind of cultural resistance to their brand ever since the Walkman came out. I still remember my Sony Sport Discman (the yellow water resistant one). I have been a fan of their innovations for a long time, but I am a different sort of purchaser as well. After my Vaio Z was stolen I was going to buy another one, but the Vaio disappeared, and I bought a razer blade (2014) instead.

Worse, on cell phones, a lot of people were introduced to cell phones with samsung or iphones, and there is a brand loyalty to be concerned with here as well. Despite the fact that Sony does make premium handsets, there are certain websites that try to discredit them by stating falsehoods like 'the xperia z is not being updated...' (mine has had 4.4 since early July, I think).

 

[Pia]

Z3 Compact is looking like the upgrade I actually want coming from Moto G, but I dread the price. Could do with less power - the size and the camera are key.

Was hopeful about the new Moto X, but it turns out to be a phablet like the rest of the flagships..

 

[jimkjan]

Now I'm using Sony xperia z, and I will take Xperia z3 when it came out .





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[npaladin-2000]

The more I think about it, the more I think I'd rather have a waterproof Xperia Z3 Compact tablet than an NVIDIA SHIELD Tablet....yeah I game but not THAT much, and the Snapdragon 801 is fine for games, even if it's not as spectacular at the K1.

 

[HumblePie]

There is a z3 released? I see a Z2.1 release

 

[Suspicious-Teach8788]

Actually it looks like it will be. The one Z3 I found on the FCC had Band 13 support.

But no CDMA radio? Verizon users should just stop posting honestly when it comes to device freedom.

 

[Suspicious-Teach8788]

I also heard the camera is not that great....

But those bands: LTE (Bands 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 13, 17, 20)

 

[cronos]

I'm liking the looks of Z series. My next phone will probably be a Z3 or a Z4 when it comes out. But it won't be until next year after the Z4 comes out. I'm sticking with my M7 for now.

I've been eyeing the Z2 ever since it came out but I think the Z3 looks better (and a tad smaller, total size-wise, which is good). Obviously the Z3 is not for people who have a Z2, or maybe even a Z1, but more of an upgrade to the Z/ZL generation.

I don't care about carrier support. I'll be buying these off of ebay or direct from Sony anyway. HSPA+ is good enough for me.

 

[Dari]

As someone else mentioned, these phones are really geared towards the Japanese market where people change their phones the same time the seasons change. Japanese people don't keep their phones for years like others do.

 

[kpkp]

Review Z3 Compact:Quite impressive

 

[s44]

That's just awesome.

 

[kpkp]

Camera test by dxomark.

 

[bgstcola]

I've had a few Sony phones and my friends have had them as well and they were all POS. All kinds af connection problems, charging problems and so on. It's a while ago so maybe they have gone better but as of now I'm avoiding Sony.

 

[maxi007]

sony makes the best looking waterproof phones, period.
sadly the price is out of range for poor people like me.

yeah , in waterproof , no doubt