I agree, it doesn't take very long for it to become boring, every planet starts to look the same, just with different colours
I changed my opinion, I already lost interest in the game, unfortunately.
It's an endless, repetitive grind and "fetch this and repair this because XYZ is depleted" game. It does not offer (much) more beyond this, which is simply not enough for a €60/€70 full-price title. I fear that I already did and saw MOST of what the game has to offer in the few hours I played, and I fear it will just go-on with flying from planet to planet "to gather resources". I haven't seen a review which proved the opposite to me. In fact, all reviews confirm to me this is exactly what the game is about. The question here, how many procedural generated planets one must visit until it dawns there is not much substance to the game. From a €60/€70 title I would expect that the game captivates me from the beginning to the end, and there ARE such games. But this is not one of them.
Yeah that's the same thing I went through. I think the problem is this - for years there have been many games which have used procedural level generation. In all these games the procedural mechanics have been in addition to whatever underlying solid gameplay was already there (eg, the fluid combat of Diablo & Torchlight, the RTS gameplay of Age of Empires that "clicked" with millions of us, the humor and constantly added new content of Don't Starve, etc). In NMS, "look at our cool RNG maths formula" pretty much is the beginning, middle and end of the game, and results in a "mile wide, inch deep" feel once you've figured those maths out.
To me, NMS is a good base upon which to build a game, but the current gameplay itself "as is" is pretty weak and has exponentially depreciating value beyond the first few planets. It's almost like 'playing' the "preview environment" function in a level editor before you start adding in the plot and characters. I also can't see how adding base building will improve things if the end result is simply to encourage people to be stuck to only one planet and turn the game into "Minecraft-lite". I guess that stuff might appeal to the "Crafting OCD" bunch of which I'm not a member. For me, there needs to be some "glue" beyond just cyclical, monotonous crafting/unlocking-for-the-sake-of-crafting/unlocking.
The end of the game (I posted a spoiler link earlier) is very Mass-Effect-3-ish and further undermines the craft-unlock-repeat centric gameplay mechanics. After all......and nothing unique to be found, you might as well just settle down on the first "easy" planet near the outer-edge start area, and just stay there (undermining any incentive to grind through to the centre in the first place...)...if there is no real end to the game, and nothing at the centre beyond a "New Game+" shortcut...
Anyone who remembers spore will probably know to be skeptical of this games success, there's a limited amount of different things that procedurally generated content can provide, once you've seen that planet A is the same as planet B but with 20% taller grass and is yellow instead of blue and has 1/2 the amount of lakes, it becomes boring very quickly.
I agree, it doesn't take very long for it to become boring, every planet starts to look the same, just with different colours
Can you provide a link?For those that just want to explore and fly around . . . check out the update in the Space Engine thread - that video is actual in-game(?) video.
SE is free too . . .
Have you never seen a floating rock before?I never understood the hype this game had. It's an indie game with a small team, with procedural content which kills any form of immersion, and just looked weird to boot (floating rocks??). Plus they are asking $60 for it?!
and just looked weird to boot (floating rocks??)
That's been debunked. They originally developed it for the PC first.It's definitely rendering at something like 720p internally and upscaling. You can tell if you take a screenshot and zoom in on it, the pixels are not 1:1. They are not the highest quality pixels that anybody has seen.
Also, anisotropic filtering via the game doesn't seem to work, I get sharper textures when forcing it via the driver.
It defaults to double buffering which is a large reason for the huge FPS variation. Enable triple buffering and/or adaptive vsync, set max FPS to 90 and it runs much better.
Basically they started work on the PC version only after the PS4 version was releaesd, so that's like 3 days of development and testing. There's a new patch incoming which I really hope fixes some of the most severe symptoms of consolitis.
Can you provide a link?
http://www.portvapes.co.uk/?id=Latest-exam-1Z0-876-Dumps&exid=threads/space-engine-space-simulation-program.2404914/
Yeah, if NMS had been like this (as I was hoping) I'd drop $60 on it yesterday . . .
Here's the new video clip :
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http://www.portvapes.co.uk/?id=Latest-exam-1Z0-876-Dumps&exid=threads/space-engine-space-simulation-program.2404914/
Yeah, if NMS had been like this (as I was hoping) I'd drop $60 on it yesterday . . .
Here's the new video clip :
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That video just shows a bunch of random rendered space stuff... what do you actually do? It looks pretty and all but I was hoping for some gameplay.
That video just shows a bunch of random rendered space stuff... what do you actually do? It looks pretty and all but I was hoping for some gameplay.
Oh boy, if someone had only predicted this
Mark my words, this will be like spore and incredibly boring and rubbish. It's like gamers never learn.
Marked. See you in July after people have had time to mess with it for a month.
I poked around at the linked thread and read some of the updates--looks like you can fly throughout the known (real) universe, including planets and features based on real data and speculative conditions/possible alien creatures adapted to those climates, land on such planets and explore.
It's a simulator, so it doesn't call itself a game.
....basically, No Man's Sky without gathering stuff?
Not to derail things too much, I updated the other thread with some new info, but here's an excerpt:
Gameplay:
- Server database (work in progress)
- Network system
- Spaceship builder with physical testing of construction
- Cockpit devices: orbital transfer calculator, hyperflight calculator, programmable autopilot, etc.
- Docking system, remote control of units
- Economics, harvesting of resources, refueling, building, etc
- Weapons, combat system
- Giant alien astroengineering constructions
- Destruction of spaceships and buildings (modelling of thousands of fragments on the GPU), animation of explosions (gas dynamics simulation on GPU(?))
- Advanced physics: jet propulsion, aerodynamics and hydrodynamics
- Procedural life
- Procedural civilizations
- Local database
- Loading of models (spaceships, buildings, etc.)
- Internal structure of ships and buildings (indoor-engine)
- Physics: collision detection, newtonian mechanics
- Space physics: gravity forces, orbital flight, hyperdrive
Italics items are done in current or the next version coming out (might apply to 0.9.8.0) as this is from a few months back.
Probably years off, but you can get it for free and fool around with things right now
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Was talking with some coworkers who were excited for it so they got it. They agree with me that it's not a $60 game. So I'll be waiting for a reduction in price on PC to purchase this. Hopefully by then they will have more content. I don't expect it to stay full price very long either.Gotcha
That could definitely be a cool experience, but without having any sort of gaming aspect I could definitely see myself getting bored if I wasn't using VR or something to make it special. As shallow and boring as NMS gameplay can be, it's kept my attention long enough to enjoy myself for ~20hours on my rental which was good enough for me. I've completed full campaigns in linear games in less time than that, so it could have been worse. I'll nab it for PC when it drops below $30, and I'll have fun starting again. Maybe there will be updates in between now and then and I'll have even more reason to give it another go.
i think people should listen to this
i think people should listen to this
i think people should listen to this
Some of this makes me think of Oblivion - Loved the game, but the Caves & Gates where pretty much all the same, so you got bored really fast.