No Man's Sky release date announced.

[Sabrewings]

Steam had an experimental branch with the new update already. Seems like it's official. Reports are improved performance and eliminated hitches, especially when paired with the latest Nvidia drivers.

 

[sze5003]

I was reading some of the patch notes, it also says they disabled gsync by default for better performance.

 

[Sabrewings]

The only performance issue I had aside from hitches early on due to shader caching was that frame rate tank after 3 hours. Hopefully they worked that out.

 

[Nashemon]

I just got this game on a whim and played for about 4 hours last night. I'm having a lot of fun with it. I didn't know anything about it or read any of the apparent hype with it.

 

[Chiropteran]

Bought the game on GOG on release day. Got a refund today. Woohoo, the system works.

 

[Dahak]

I was reading some of the patch notes, it also says they disabled gsync by default for better performance.

Yea, it was on by default for some reason and the only way to turn it off was changing the settings file. it should have been off if you do not have a gsync monitor

I just got this game on a whim and played for about 4 hours last night. I'm having a lot of fun with it. I didn't know anything about it or read any of the apparent hype with it.

That's good, you can determine if you like it on what it is vs what they hype was about it.

 

[smackababy]

Yea, it was on by default for some reason and the only way to turn it off was changing the settings file. it should have been off if you do not have a gsync monitor


That's good, you can determine if you like it on what it is vs what they hype was about it.

This is really how games should be viewed. Unfortunately, a lot of stuff wasn't just hype and speculation. It was the developer saying "you can do this!" And then that not even being in the game for about a hundred things.

If this game was more survival based (apparently, it's super easy to survive) I might pick it up. In its current form though, I won't even when it's bargain bin prices in a few months.

 

[cmdrdredd]

This is really how games should be viewed. Unfortunately, a lot of stuff wasn't just hype and speculation. It was the developer saying "you can do this!" And then that not even being in the game for about a hundred things.

If this game was more survival based (apparently, it's super easy to survive) I might pick it up. In its current form though, I won't even when it's bargain bin prices in a few months.

In the video linked a page or two ago there are some clips of interviews where people ask "So you've created a persistent MMO style universe for people?" and the guy whoever he was cocked his head, gave kind of a smirk, chuckled a bit to himself and muttered "yes". Looking at it now, it's so obvious he's hiding the truth. At the time it could have been construed as excitement for what they created. There were a surprising number of specific things people asked about that gave a similar reaction, hesitation, a sly smile...a bit of a chuckle and a "yes you can do that" answer. It seemed that no matter what people asked, the answer was always "yes it's in there" "yes you can do that" etc.

 

[Elixer]

Bought the game on GOG on release day. Got a refund today. Woohoo, the system works.

How does GOG go about refunds? Do they just assume you uninstalled it?

 

[sze5003]

How does GOG go about refunds? Do they just assume you uninstalled it?

Yea that's a good question. I need to put witcher 3 back on my PC and all the downloads are in zipped parts files. I thought it would just download everything at once like steam.

 

[BSim500]

How does GOG go about refunds? Do they just assume you uninstalled it?

GOG will refund any game you haven't downloaded. They generally don't refund games you have downloaded just because you don't like them for precisely the reason you mentioned (they've got no way of revoking a DRM-free offline installer). However, they do have a "trust based" system for faulty / buggy games where if you can't get a game to work within a month days (with support), they'll often give you the benefit of the doubt. I think they also track number of refunds per customer, so if one person who got a refund thinks "This is great!", then starts experiencing "problems" with several games and issuing refund requests, they'll probably know they're being "played" and will refuse them. That rarely happens though and the community is pretty good as a whole.

 

[Chiropteran]

It was the first time I tried to use the refund mechanism.

I had downloaded and played the game. My reason for asking for a refund was lack of multiplayer, as promised in various youtube videos. When I went through the process it said multiple times that they want to work to "fix" the game first before resorting to a refund, so I was expecting a little back and forth. Instead I checked my email the next day to see that the refund was authorized and I could either get immediate store credit or a credit to my payment method after 7-10 days.

Since GOG is awesome and I will certainly be buying more games from them in the future, I just took the store credit choice.

Interestingly it still shows that I have the "preorder DLC" in my account, but the game itself is gone. Technically I still have the installer files downloaded, but I have no intention of playing the game, I wasn't trying to cheat the system.

 

[sze5003]

It was the first time I tried to use the refund mechanism.

I had downloaded and played the game. My reason for asking for a refund was lack of multiplayer, as promised in various youtube videos. When I went through the process it said multiple times that they want to work to "fix" the game first before resorting to a refund, so I was expecting a little back and forth. Instead I checked my email the next day to see that the refund was authorized and I could either get immediate store credit or a credit to my payment method after 7-10 days.

Since GOG is awesome and I will certainly be buying more games from them in the future, I just took the store credit choice.

Interestingly it still shows that I have the "preorder DLC" in my account, but the game itself is gone. Technically I still have the installer files downloaded, but I have no intention of playing the game, I wasn't trying to cheat the system.

That's odd that you still have the installer but that just means the game would not update.

 

[zinfamous]

How does GOG go about refunds? Do they just assume you uninstalled it?

GoG has it's own client like Steam, now, if that's what you are getting at.

So, I assume it is just removed from your account. GoG is no longer an open link to your library where you just download the games.

Unless you can still do that somehow?

 

[Raduque]

Is Steam offering "out of refund period" refunds for NMS yet?

 

[sze5003]

GoG has it's own client like Steam, now, if that's what you are getting at.

So, I assume it is just removed from your account. GoG is no longer an open link to your library where you just download the games.

Unless you can still do that somehow?

If they take the game away I imagine it goes away from gog galaxy but I wonder if you login through the browser, it should also disappear from your account. Unless the user has already stored the files on the computer.

 

[flexy]

No matter what, correct me if I am wrong, the official "refund period" for games on steam is like, 2 hours?
90% of people will play BEYOND that, so 90% of people who at some point realize the game is sh...oh ok, let's be fair, too shallow and repetitive...are out of luck.

The result is another team of game devs who are now laughing all the way o the bank, DESPITE having made untrue promises and having delivered a lackluster game. I am mentioning this since the ability to make someone a millionaire despite a game being poor does NOT exactly benefit the gamer and gaming as a whole. You know, I know...that if there would be refunds possible after, say, 2 days, those devs would have lost quite some money...and any dev would think twice whether REALLY to deliver a poor/shitty/over-hyped game.

That being said, 2 hours for refund is still better than no refund possible at all...

 

[Raduque]

No matter what, correct me if I am wrong, the official "refund period" for games on steam is like, 2 hours?
90% of people will play BEYOND that, so 90% of people who at some point realize the game is sh...oh ok, let's be fair, too shallow and repetitive...are out of luck.

The result is another team of game devs who are now laughing all the way o the bank, DESPITE having made untrue promises and having delivered a lackluster game. I am mentioning this since the ability to make someone a millionaire despite a game being poor does NOT exactly benefit the gamer and gaming as a whole. You know, I know...that if there would be refunds possible after, say, 2 days, those devs would have lost quite some money...and any dev would think twice whether REALLY to deliver a poor/shitty/over-hyped game.

That being said, 2 hours for refund is still better than no refund possible at all...

I bought NMN on release date and played it 3 hours so far. Not happy with it. But, if Steam isn't offering refunds, I'll force myself to play it for at least 10 more hours, to get my money out of it.

 

[Chiropteran]

If they take the game away I imagine it goes away from gog galaxy but I wonder if you login through the browser, it should also disappear from your account. Unless the user has already stored the files on the computer.

This is correct. I can't install the game from gog galaxy, and I can't download it again. Obviously they can't delete the files I already have downloaded, that part is just working under the honor system.

And I suspect they are getting lots of requests for No Man's Sky, which would explain why the refund was granted without any complaint or back and forth.

 

[Subyman]

Can't believe this came out as a $60 game. From what I've seen its really an indie game that had AAA aspirations that never panned out. It's unfortunate that they didn't have a bigger team to fill out the mechanics. I'm sure we will see a sequel with much more to do using the same generation scheme that makes the game so unique.

 

[ImpulsE69]

It is unfortunately, because I like the overall idea, but it seems that it panned out like I expected. Still think it would make a cool screen saver

 

[Dahak]

Yea that's a good question. I need to put witcher 3 back on my PC and all the downloads are in zipped parts files. I thought it would just download everything at once like steam.

You can with their client called GOG Galaxy, it will do the same as Steam

I bought NMN on release date and played it 3 hours so far. Not happy with it. But, if Steam isn't offering refunds, I'll force myself to play it for at least 10 more hours, to get my money out of it.

You could have, but its limited to 2hrs, which is somewhat limiting should be about 4hrs I would say, especially for a high priced game

 

[HOOfan 1]

Can't believe this came out as a $60 game. From what I've seen its really an indie game that had AAA aspirations that never panned out. It's unfortunate that they didn't have a bigger team to fill out the mechanics. I'm sure we will see a sequel with much more to do using the same generation scheme that makes the game so unique.

I wonder if it would have come out at $60 if Sony hadn't thrown their weight behind it

 

[shortylickens]

I kinda agree with most of this.
http://fandom.wikia.com/articles/no-mans-sky-spore-cautionary-tale
The more thats promised, the bigger the letdown.

For reference I have never been a major fan of GTA. But I got into GTA 5 recently and because I never paid attention to all the hype, I was able to enjoy the game on its own merits.
Big world, filled with detail, lots of fun stuff to do, I like it. And I only paid 35 dollars for it, making the experience an excellent bargain as well.

 

[zinfamous]

I kinda agree with most of this.
http://fandom.wikia.com/articles/no-mans-sky-spore-cautionary-tale
The more thats promised, the bigger the letdown.

I've got a pretty good metric for knowing when a game is going to be overhyped and underdeliver:

Back in 2006, I read this article, not actually having heard about Spore, but I certainly loved Sim City and the other actual Sim x games (though I never played a Sims game); though I'm not sure if I was aware of Will Wright--the guy behind all of that at the time.

It was a great article and I enjoyed learning the history about all of this, but I had a suspicion that the game as detailed here sounded near impossible. I thought, "wow--that sounds like an amazing game! It will probably cost about $200 considering the hours and team that must be involved to make that sort of thing!"

Some time later, Spore came out, and it was terrible.

Fast forward to a year ago, I read this article. I hadn't heard about No Man's Sky by May of last year (I don't follow gaming anything, so games sneak up on me, and I am fine with that). I thought, holy shitballs that sounds amazing! Then I quickly realized that this game will not be the game in the article. This stuff simply is not going to happen, and certainly not anywhere close to that with the small development team that is mentioned in the article. I did recall reading the Spore article years before, and thought the same thing would happen. Love the New Yorker, but when you come into those subjects with a bit more experience on the matter than the author of the article, you realize that these pieces are a bit puffier than they should be--not accusing them of being misleading, just that these "wow, look at this technology!" articles tend to leave out a lot of the reality of what can actually be done in the mentioned time frame

As bad as the gaming media has been with hyping this game, they've at least offered some cautionary points prior to release (or maybe that was all in my head). When you go outside of those walls and see that a small game like this without a big name (no Super Mario 3) is suddenly gaining mainstream attention, you know something is up.

Apparently, Jack Kennedy (the patriarch Kennedy) once commented about the panic leading up to the market crash in '29, and how he knew something bad was coming: "Once I started getting stock tips from my shoe-shine boy, I knew it was time to get out."