Originally posted by: Azn
Not exactly. 4 3850 has roughly have power of 2 gtx. Frame wise 4 3850 with 256mb ram would win over a single gtx. Maybe not gtx sli.
Originally posted by: Azn
Now now. I never said anything about being logical and get 4 256mb gpu. I just said it would still beat a single gtx.
Originally posted by: munky
Looks like the rumor of a dual rv670 card is true:
http://www.legitreviews.com/article/593/1/
While it looks impressive, I'm still disappointed there will not be a new high end gpu.
Originally posted by: cmdrdredd
Well, they do have a 3870 x2 card on the horizon(basically 2 3870 GPUs on one card. That doesn't run through any crossfire software AFAIK (please correct this if it is incorrect). Thus you are getting the performance of 2 3870 GPUs without the Crossfire limitation of bad software and no support.
Again if this is wrong please correct me.
Originally posted by: munky
Originally posted by: cmdrdredd
Well, they do have a 3870 x2 card on the horizon(basically 2 3870 GPUs on one card. That doesn't run through any crossfire software AFAIK (please correct this if it is incorrect). Thus you are getting the performance of 2 3870 GPUs without the Crossfire limitation of bad software and no support.
Again if this is wrong please correct me.
I hope you're not wrong!
I'd be much more interested in a dual-gpu card if it relied on some more efficient and advanced method than crosfire or sli.
Originally posted by: munky
The day a single card can not play my games well will be the day I quit PC gaming. Until 2 cards can guarantee me close to 100% performance improvement in every game, I will not buy into this marketing gimmick and primitive performance solution.
Originally posted by: frythecpuofbender
I think Nvidia are just waiting till the next gen of Xbox (Xbox720?) and Playstation4 are around the corner. They will then release an architecture for PC that is similar to the capabilites of those new consoles.
Fact is: No one, not the game developers nor the card manufacturers want to build technology that doesn't exist in the console market aka where the real money is made. And Xbox360 titles will continue to use DX9 for the Xbox360's lifespan which is at least another year. This whole DX10 is good for PC gaming propaganda was just M$ marketing BS.
Originally posted by: Shaq
Well the fact is that since most PC games now are ported from consoles a new high end would not sell as well since they are not needed. The few people that game at 1920 and up will just be forced to purchase a Nvidia SLI chipset and another video card.
Until the next console generation is out we will be lucky to get more than one true (non- GX2) new high end card. I don't think the next console will be out until a quad core @ 3.0, 2 gigs of ram, and the next high end video card become cheap enough and cool enough to justify it... probably Xmas 2009. Microsoft and Sony can then actually make a small profit on the consoles if they choose to. The next gen consoles being more evolutionary than revolutionary. The biggest benefit will be the extra ram.
Originally posted by: cmdrdredd
Originally posted by: Shaq
Well the fact is that since most PC games now are ported from consoles a new high end would not sell as well since they are not needed. The few people that game at 1920 and up will just be forced to purchase a Nvidia SLI chipset and another video card.
Until the next console generation is out we will be lucky to get more than one true (non- GX2) new high end card. I don't think the next console will be out until a quad core @ 3.0, 2 gigs of ram, and the next high end video card become cheap enough and cool enough to justify it... probably Xmas 2009. Microsoft and Sony can then actually make a small profit on the consoles if they choose to. The next gen consoles being more evolutionary than revolutionary. The biggest benefit will be the extra ram.
Well, effectively then Nvidia and AMD are helping PC gaming die. Very few people can justify 2 cards for 1 game. Many more people would be happy to buy 1 video card and be able to play their games.
Originally posted by: Lonyo
http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/v...s_Chief_Executive.htmlNvidia Corp., the world?s largest supplier of graphics processors, said that it has no immediate plans to release graphics cards that offer higher speed than current top-of-the-range GeForce 8800 Ultra, but said that customers seeking for extreme performance will soon be able to install three graphics cards into one system to get incredible graphics rendering horsepower.
ATI, graphics product group of Advanced Micro Devices, also said earlier this year that it would focus on development of multi-GPU solutions for high-end market instead of creating large graphics chips with roughly a billion of transistors, which are hard to produce and develop.
This also ties in with AMD/ATi talking about quad-GPU systems with Crossfire-X
http://www.dailytech.com/AMD+R...pon+Us/article9613.htmATI CrossfireX, previously dubbed Quad Crossfire, will also finally make its debut. In short, users will be able to connect up to four HD 3800 cards through AMD's Crossfire. The technology will support up to 8 monitors, and will also allow overclocking.
http://www.dailytech.com/AMD+P...ssFire/article7986.htm
Looks like the move which makes sense (given how parallel graphics processing is) is coming, especially now PCIe-2.0 is here which offers more bandwidth (twice as much, as triple/quad cards won't be too bandwidth starved).
Of course, for the consumer it means more heat, more power, more space and more expensive components, but for the manufacturers it means it's easier to give us more power, since they can sell us multiple less powerful cards, rather than having to invest a lot in a single high power complex GPU.
Originally posted by: Shaq
Originally posted by: cmdrdredd
Originally posted by: Shaq
Well the fact is that since most PC games now are ported from consoles a new high end would not sell as well since they are not needed. The few people that game at 1920 and up will just be forced to purchase a Nvidia SLI chipset and another video card.
Until the next console generation is out we will be lucky to get more than one true (non- GX2) new high end card. I don't think the next console will be out until a quad core @ 3.0, 2 gigs of ram, and the next high end video card become cheap enough and cool enough to justify it... probably Xmas 2009. Microsoft and Sony can then actually make a small profit on the consoles if they choose to. The next gen consoles being more evolutionary than revolutionary. The biggest benefit will be the extra ram.
Well, effectively then Nvidia and AMD are helping PC gaming die. Very few people can justify 2 cards for 1 game. Many more people would be happy to buy 1 video card and be able to play their games.
Most of the money is in consoles and that is where the developers are going. If PC gaming had lots of developers like Crytek pushing the technology envelope then Nvidia/ATI would have more of a market for high end cards.
I think it's the developers fault for the decreasing growth of PC gaming not the video card industry. We need more developers that are into technolgical innovation instead of the bland console games we get every year. Because they would have to develop on the PC to push the technological envelope.
Originally posted by: bryanW1995
woof! apoppin, you never answered me. how low before you buy 3870? I caved at $225 since my 1950xt is already sold and I'm limping around on a 6600gt right now.
Originally posted by: firewolfsm
How about dual gpu cards? Even that's better than sli.