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Spungo

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I gave my dog a nice steak after I had sex with it. 404: Animal abuse not found.
 

emperus

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Because it's actually more horrifying that we treated the slaves well because it meant we knew what we were doing. It wasn't just some overlooked contractor situation where the government could claim plausible deniability, we not only used slaves but we treated them 'well' because they were seen as U.S. property and thus doing so was a protection of our "investment."

People need to know that instead of like picture 1 below, it was more like picture 2. There's no excuse for either, but there's also no getting around the the implicit knowledge that what you're doing is wrong. The U.S. government didn't use slaves to build the White House because we conquered some other people, we did it to save a few bucks and completely ignored the morality that was telling us it was wrong.




Please stop. Plenty of slaves were beaten or do you think they stayed around for the good food?
 

Phynaz

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If where she lives is such a problem to her why hasn't Michelle Obama moved out of the presidential palace?

Must not be too big of a problem for her.
 
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Blackjack200

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If where she lives is such a problem to her why hasn't Michelle Obama moved out of the presidential palace?

Must not be too big of a problem for her.

Yeah, if she has a problem with slavery she shouldn't live there...

Fuck it, I was trying to parody you, but I just ended up saying the exact same thing.
 

dank69

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Yeah, if she has a problem with slavery she shouldn't live there...

Fuck it, I was trying to parody you, but I just ended up saying the exact same thing.

I'll give it a whirl:

"If you don't celebrate our rich history of slavery, you aren't a true American worthy of living in the White House."
 

glenn1

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Please stop. Plenty of slaves were beaten or do you think they stayed around for the good food?

Want to see the reason why so many people support Trump for reasons of 'he speaks his mind'? It's the type of comment I just quoted. People get a bit tired of having to make a sufficiently vehement ritual declaration of the horrors of something when they discuss it. It's not enough to simply say "yeah slavery was terrible," you have to denounce it as one of the biggest evils of history. You can't just say "yeah cops beating people is bad," you need to make a declaration about how the nation is irredeemably racist. Ditto for any subject where some pet group is in play - you can't just state your opinion, it needs to be sufficiently bracketed by the correct apologetics and you can't skimp on the quantity, you need to pile it on like an old person at a buffet.
 

Blackjack200

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I'll give it a whirl:

"If you don't celebrate our rich history of slavery, you aren't a true American worthy of living in the White House."

There you go, what he said.

Clearly, Bill O'Reilly should be the one living there.
 

glenn1

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He was citing historical facts ffs. I'm really having a lot of trouble getting worked up over this one. But the storm of outrage is awesome to behold!

https://www.billoreilly.com/show?action=latestTVShow#10

Race mongers should just formalize the required verbiage we need to say when talking about slavery to make the point of how awful it was. Kinda like how England does it for their monarch. "Elizabeth the Second, by the Grace of God, of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and of Her other Realms and Territories Queen, Head of the Commonwealth, Defender of the Faith."
 

emperus

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Want to see the reason why so many people support Trump for reasons of 'he speaks his mind'? It's the type of comment I just quoted. People get a bit tired of having to make a sufficiently vehement ritual declaration of the horrors of something when they discuss it. It's not enough to simply say "yeah slavery was terrible," you have to denounce it as one of the biggest evils of history. You can't just say "yeah cops beating people is bad," you need to make a declaration about how the nation is irredeemably racist. Ditto for any subject where some pet group is in play - you can't just state your opinion, it needs to be sufficiently bracketed by the correct apologetics and you can't skimp on the quantity, you need to pile it on like an old person at a buffet.

Yeah, I'm glad we agree. People support Trump because racists can speak to their racist delusions without facts to back it up and without feeling bad about it. Thanks for clarifying that.

And as to your previous post. You were factually inaccurate. Slaves were beaten, raped and killed. It wasn't the utopia that you have envision it to be.
 

Blackjack200

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Want to see the reason why so many people support Trump for reasons of 'he speaks his mind'? It's the type of comment I just quoted. People get a bit tired of having to make a sufficiently vehement ritual declaration of the horrors of something when they discuss it. It's not enough to simply say "yeah slavery was terrible," you have to denounce it as one of the biggest evils of history. You can't just say "yeah cops beating people is bad," you need to make a declaration about how the nation is irredeemably racist. Ditto for any subject where some pet group is in play - you can't just state your opinion, it needs to be sufficiently bracketed by the correct apologetics and you can't skimp on the quantity, you need to pile it on like an old person at a buffet.

Wow. Just... wow.

In other news, this is bubbling up to the top of google news. I don't think he'll escape unscathed. Don't know if he'll have to resign, but it's possible.
 

dank69

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Want to see the reason why so many people support Trump for reasons of 'he speaks his mind'? It's the type of comment I just quoted. People get a bit tired of having to make a sufficiently vehement ritual declaration of the horrors of something when they discuss it. It's not enough to simply say "yeah slavery was terrible," you have to denounce it as one of the biggest evils of history. You can't just say "yeah cops beating people is bad," you need to make a declaration about how the nation is irredeemably racist. Ditto for any subject where some pet group is in play - you can't just state your opinion, it needs to be sufficiently bracketed by the correct apologetics and you can't skimp on the quantity, you need to pile it on like an old person at a buffet.
No, you just have to stop whitewashing history if you don't want to be called a racist. Is that so difficult to ask?
 

SMOGZINN

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He was citing historical facts ffs.

Just quoting facts was he? I notice he didn't think it necessary to mention that it was designed by an Irish man, or that it took 8 years to build. Those are facts as well. Or could it be that which facts he chooses to use tells something about the story he is selling?
 
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Why does this forum attract people like you and Glenn?
What do you mean by that? Are you capable of some honesty here? Or are you just going to run away and continue screaming "dog whistle" at every fn little thing you imagine to be offensive for the rest of your life?
 

Jaskalas

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If where she lives is such a problem to her why hasn't Michelle Obama moved out of the presidential palace?

Must not be too big of a problem for her.

The context you're using is a lie. Michelle Obama did not say that.
 

realibrad

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Yeah, I'm glad we agree. People support Trump because racists can speak to their racist delusions without facts to back it up and without feeling bad about it. Thanks for clarifying that.

And as to your previous post. You were factually inaccurate. Slaves were beaten, raped and killed. It wasn't the utopia that you have envision it to be.

Rape, beating, murder and everything else was 100% done. Those were also things done to non slaves. The point Glenn was making is that it was not as prevalent as its made out to be. What Glenn said is that slavery even without those things was immoral. No doubt those things happened more under slavery, and that is a fact, but the way slavery is usually presented is that they were always beat, always raped and that was not typical. As pointed out, slavery was about owning property aka people. You will get more production out of people if you dont murder all of your property, or beat them so they cant do work.

What you are expecting is virtue signaling. Anything less than that will mean that he supports slavery.

I will ask you this, do you believe I am a racist or in any supported slavery because of this post? If you at this point believe yes, then I can actually show you were I have gone off on people for trying to compare lesser things to slavery. I find slavery a horrible stain on not just American history, but human history. I also know through history classes that the narrative of slaves being perpetually raped and beaten as being the norm is simply not true. It was frequent, but not the norm for most slaves.
 

zinfamous

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http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...lle-obama-white-house-slaves-speech/87604632/

Do I need to comment on this or is it fucked up enough to stand on its own merit? I'll start the discussion just in case:

How does this guy still have his job? How is a comment like this not enough for immediate dismissal? Oh that's right, Fox News is a haven for wildly racist pundits.

FoxNews: "Well, we don't endorse it, but his ratings are great! We aren't racist, but he's just telling our viewers what they want to hear!"
 

zinfamous

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She uses the story as a demonstration of how far the country has come in 200 years. Then people like O'Reilly use it as a way to claim she is divisive by saying it wasn't all slaves or it wasn't so bad for the slaves.

Get the problem now?

please stop. The party of division really needs to go out of its way to create non-existing divisions to prove that they aren't creating any divisions anywhere...it's the other guys!

your explanations are really too much for them to deal with.
 
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