The perfect mind knows no death because it does not experience time. It is the Alpha and the Omega. God made no promise to you He cannot keep. You let go, so let go again.
If we were born perfectly, our telomers wouldn't deteriorate.
Yeah, it says something when a major political commentator dismissing slavery barely moves the needle anymore.
Here you go
I am surprised he didn't tell us how "happy" the slaves were doing the work.
So I don't care to discuss slavery or what you think slave's lives were like. There have been countless books written on it by people who know far more than you and I. What I am trying to understand is why people are defending O'reilly's comments and also why O'reilly chose to make them.
Poisoning the situation? That's rich. People make racist comments, defend racist comments and when someone calls them out, they are poisoning the situation? White privilege must be nice.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...lle-obama-white-house-slaves-speech/87604632/
Do I need to comment on this or is it fucked up enough to stand on its own merit? I'll start the discussion just in case:
How does this guy still have his job? How is a comment like this not enough for immediate dismissal? Oh that's right, Fox News is a haven for wildly racist pundits.
It was a really dumb, pointless thing for O'Reilly to even begin to take on.
What's the point? Yes, slave labor was used to build the White House. End of story. There's nothing can be said that puts a smiley face on it. It's a shameful fact. Also indicative of the fact that an over-powerful, corrupt government was itself knee deep involved in the business of enslaving other people.
I don't think it was divisive of M.O. to bring up actual history and contrast it with today where we've come so far that a black family for the past 7 years has lived in the WhiteHouse, in the position of the most powerful people in the free world.
It's actually a shame more people can't take that for the good thing that is is and actually *AHEM* MOVE FORWARD WITH IT, rather than stay stuck back in 1866/1965, whenever the fuck they WISH it still was.
You're trying to rationalize why people shouldn't have beaten and raped their slaves, not demonstrating that they didn't. Given that slaves were frequently sold and traded, what do you think a slaves odds of living a full life without ever having been beaten or raped was?
Actually I see it the other way around. I think Trump is the natural backlash to the fact that for the last few decades media and political elites have tried to close the Overton window too rapidly. The elites did that for good reasons for sure, but in doing so they alienated a large part of society that felt that they weren't bad people despite "popular" opinion. Saying something (even mildly) racist went from "that person made a mistake" or "that person needs to be educated" to "that person is horrible and every positive thing they ever did or say should be invalidated and let's shun them from society for being so horrible." (Hulk Hogan for example) A lot of America can't live by such a strict standard.
I don't want to defend racists in any way, but at the same time I am surprised when people say they couldn't see this coming. A whole generation (the "greatest" one) was basically told that the way they were raised was wrong in every way, and those people have the highest voter participation. If Trump is elected it's obvious how we got there.
Dang. Zaap made another good post.
In a world full of suffering, you chose to be a pedant, to stand for empty minor intellectual truths that fly in the face of deep pain. You take pride in your capacity to take a pedantic, politically incorrect stance, a meaningless nuanced fact or two as if your capacity to distance yourself from the suffering of others was some sort of virtue. Your problem is that you are all up in your head because you refuse to feel. You are the well fed slave with a rich intellectual life and a heart that is in chains.
I suggest you work on your own humanity before you worry about the issue of political correctness. You will find new meaning in the notion of slavery when you experience it's reality internally.
Your posts are nothing more to me than the ritual condemnation of political correctness. You show contempt for the very thing that you are. I bet you can guess to what I would attribute the reason.
God damn moonie, that's a good post. Hopefully Glenn does some introspection at some point. Reading some Ta Nehisi Coates, not that you'd have to agree with everything would be a good start.
All credit to them though, that window is also why the perspective of younger generations has shifted so rapidly since the civil rights era where most white people supported jim crow.
“I’ll tell you what coloreds want. It’s three things: first, a tight pussy; second, loose shoes; and third, a warm place to shit. That's all!”
What Bill said was factually correct, but the goal was not to give out information.
I think a measured approach was what worked. Every racist the day the Civil Right Act was signed didn't immediately become a horrible person. Instead the thought process was they simply needed to be helped (via education) catch up to a modern sentiment. People were allowed the room to make mistakes and grow personally and a lot of solid progress was made slowly over decades. People became "better people" by slowly dropping racist concepts, and most of society bought into that measured approach because almost everyone could exist in the shade of gray.
Somewhere along the way the elitist part of society got tired of waiting for a huge chunk of the population to become educated (or die off). So the emphasis shifted from helping people grow into a new word to outright marginalizing those who simply weren't moving fast enough. With such a massive issue you can't fix it by snapping your fingers or wishing the bad thoughts away, and so a delusion was created that once those people were marginalized their opinion doesn't matter anymore.
Trump is proof that was never the reality, and Trump plus Brexit is proof when you cut corners on something like this to speed up the process it can cause real problems due to those left behind. Racists went from "maybe I can handle this, I want to be a better person" to "screw those guys marginalizing me that just makes me feel like I was right." Hence the creation of code words to allow racism to continue. Then Trump comes along and says "horrible" things and those who wanted to move quicker than society naturally would demanded a universal condemnation of his positions when all these marginalized people think "he is just saying what I have been saying but with the courage to not use code words." He tells them not only are they not bad people, not marginalized, but they are the only hope to make America "great" again. And people get on the bandwagon because the opposition just wants to tell them what bad people they are, and how they have no part in building America's future.
Young people especially can't stand to be told to wait, but moving too fast can have its own consequences.
Dang. Zaap made another good post.
It was a really dumb, pointless thing for O'Reilly to even begin to take on.
What's the point? Yes, slave labor was used to build the White House. End of story. There's nothing can be said that puts a smiley face on it. It's a shameful fact. Also indicative of the fact that an over-powerful, corrupt government was itself knee deep involved in the business of enslaving other people.
I don't think it was divisive of M.O. to bring up actual history and contrast it with today where we've come so far that a black family for the past 7 years has lived in the WhiteHouse, in the position of the most powerful people in the free world.
It's actually a shame more people can't take that for the good thing that is is and actually *AHEM* MOVE FORWARD WITH IT, rather than stay stuck back in 1866/1965, whenever the fuck they WISH it still was.
Conservatives (except Zaap) still don't understand that the issue has nothing to do with pointing out their preferred truth of slavery.
It is the undercutting of Michele's non-racist, non-divisive, non-hateful comment by claiming everything but, then diverting.
And for no fucking reason. She made as bi-partisan and hopeful of a comment as you can make about our country that any real patriot should be proud to realize.
But not republicans (except Zaap). What a bunch of diseased, hateful, cunts you guys are. So petty, so childish, so intellectually dishonest. So worthless and so obsolete.
So your problem is that you think we somehow undercut Michelle Obama?
There was no other point for O'Reilly to make that comment. Michelle made no claims about what conditions the slaves who built the White House were subjected. There was absolutely nothing in her entire speech that the GOP could criticize but Fox News had to find something, anything. So they did what conservatives do best, conjure up a straw man to criticize. Next thing you know, conservatives everywhere, including people in this very thread are telling Michelle that if she isn't happy in the White House she should leave because she is a disgrace to America.
Newsflash suckers: Michelle didn't say she was unhappy in the White House, which makes O'Reilly's comment all the more racist because he actually had to shoehorn it into a conversation where it made no sense given the context.
That's one hell of a way to resign. Even funnier would be closing your last show by saying "Jews did 9/11. Good night."Wow. Just... wow.
In other news, this is bubbling up to the top of google news. I don't think he'll escape unscathed. Don't know if he'll have to resign, but it's possible.