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It is an awesome quote, why would you have me remove it?Still haven't removed that quote, doc savage? final warning
It is an awesome quote, why would you have me remove it?Still haven't removed that quote, doc savage? final warning
Still haven't removed that quote, doc savage? final warning
I'm not the least bit surprised nor outraged by O'Reilly's statement. Remember that he has been expanding his brand into being the "author" of popular American histories (author in quotes as he has several assistants to help crank out the books). The well-fed slave factoid helps establish his bona fides as a real historian. In addition he gets to stir up controversy and discussion of his name (witness this nine page thread) which is gold to professional pundits. Look at Ann Coulter who has built an entire very lucrative career entirely based on saying outrageous things.
Now a confession-I must be a true nerd as I already knew that factoid before O'Reilly educated us. In fact I suspect a lot of people did. After all, theses slaves were not field hands but in public places easily visible to anti-slavery whites. Of course they are going to be treated decently-at least while they are on that job.
He appears to like ping pong and racing and his posts seem to be relatively cogent...but on political issues, he seems to be becoming increasingly condescending and inane.Anyone paying attention would know that agent is a "professional" troll, trying to fill some great big hole, probably left their by his m*
He appears to like ping pong and racing and his posts seem to be relatively cogent...but on political issues, he seems to be becoming increasingly condescending and inane.
That's alright...I think I'm good here. But thanks for the offer.I could explain how the sort of posts you're replying to are what's considered inane in reality, but why don't you give a shot and see if you can figure this one out yourself.
He appears to like ping pong and racing and his posts seem to be relatively cogent...but on political issues, he seems to be becoming increasingly condescending and inane.
It probably would be an opportunity for O'Reilly to provide additional context that the White House slaves were well-fed for selfish reasons. It had nothing to do with ensuring their well-being, but was instead about improving their productivity, the same way giving them high-quality tools would be. Now that would be a useful history lesson for him to teach, although I'm not going to hold my breath waiting for it. Makes me wonder why Michelle Obama or someone else in the White House hasn't mentioned it however.
Link? They say curiosity killed the cat.I'm still waiting to see any proof that the slaves were well-fed since we have evidence to the contrary.
I must have watched something different than you. I saw him talk about several topics of slaves at the White House, including that they worked for several administrations. Here is the text quoted.
As we mentioned, Talking Points Memo, Michelle Obama referenced slaves building the White House in referring to the evolution of America in a positive way. It was a positive comment. The history behind her remark is fascinating. George Washington selected the site in 1791, and as president laid the cornerstone in 1792. Washington was then running the country out of Philadelphia.
Slaves did participate in the construction of the White House. Records show about 400 payments made to slave masters between 1795 and 1801. In addition, free blacks, whites, and immigrants also worked on the massive building. There were no illegal immigrants at that time. If you could make it here, you could stay here.
In 1800, President John Adams took up residence in what was then called the Executive Mansion. It was only later on they named it the White House. But Adams was in there with Abigail, and they were still hammering nails, the construction was still going on.
Slaves that worked there were well-fed and had decent lodgings provided by the government, which stopped hiring slave labor in 1802. However, the feds did not forbid subcontractors from using slave labor. So, Michelle Obama is essentially correct in citing slaves as builders of the White House, but there were others working as well. Got it all? There will be a quiz.
Link? They say curiosity killed the cat.
The effects of Slavery are visible every where; and I have amused myself from day to day in looking at the labour of 12 negroes from my window, who are employd with four small Horse Carts to remove some dirt in front of the house. the four carts are all loaded at the same time, and whilst four carry this rubish about half a mile, the remaining eight rest upon their Shovels, Two of our hardy N England men would do as much work in a day as the whole 12, but it is true Republicanism that drive the Slaves half fed, and destitute of cloathing, or fit for []re, to labour, whilst the owner waches about Idle, tho his one Slave is all the property he can boast, Such is the case of many of the inhabitants of this place.
In full context, this could have been an interesting point, but leave it to O'Reilly to put his foot in his mouth and turn this into another needlessly devicive issue.
I don't think citing history is a 'Talking Points Memo' in this case. For Pete's sake at the Dem convention he couldn't pick a better battle as far as Talking Points?
The whole attitude of having to 'fact check' what she said is stupid. It's a fact so deal with it. She wasn't 'essentially correct' she was simply correct. Really dumb thing to cite.
The whole idea of bringing up "well fed" is just fucking stupid. Unless you're going to expand on that into some meaningful context (like citing that feeding them well would make them able to be worked harder) it just is going to come off as a stupidly flippant "but see? Slaves didn't have it SO bad!" dumbshit comment.
O'Reilly is a jackass not to have known that or cared.
Duh. Others worked on the WhiteHouse too. Fucking stupid. Ofcourse that's true but it hardly has anything to do with the obvious POINT Mrs. O was making. Even Bill agrees it was a positive comment- why then attach all the needless horseshit to it?
anantechs entire P&N is much ado about nothing. Its nothing more than a place to argueI suggest you watch the video I posted earlier. Its better and clearer than the quote supplied. It will also make it obvious that this is much ado about nothing.
anantechs entire P&N is much ado about nothing. Its nothing more than a place to argue
In full context, this could have been an interesting point, but leave it to O'Reilly to put his foot in his mouth and turn this into another needlessly devicive issue.
I don't think citing history is a 'Talking Points Memo' in this case. For Pete's sake at the Dem convention he couldn't pick a better battle as far as Talking Points?
The whole attitude of having to 'fact check' what she said is stupid. It's a fact so deal with it. She wasn't 'essentially correct' she was simply correct. Really dumb thing to cite.
The whole idea of bringing up "well fed" is just fucking stupid. Unless you're going to expand on that into some meaningful context (like citing that feeding them well would make them able to be worked harder) it just is going to come off as a stupidly flippant "but see? Slaves didn't have it SO bad!" dumbshit comment.
O'Reilly is a jackass not to have known that or cared.
Duh. Others worked on the WhiteHouse too. Fucking stupid. Ofcourse that's true but it hardly has anything to do with the obvious POINT Mrs. O was making. Even Bill agrees it was a positive comment- why then attach all the needless horseshit to it?
holy shit, the dogs are still barking at this whistle? not sure if that's impressive or massively depressing.
You and your comments in this thread and the Democratic thread is the reason why Trump should never win the election. He has given cover for Racists like yourself to come out into the open.
What did he say that was racist?
Be specific.
What did he say that was racist?
Be specific.
Just read what Zaap had to say in this thread and see if you see the gut honest instinct encapsulated therein. It doesn't happen often that when you are looking at, listening to, and feeling a duck, it actually isn't a duck, it's usually motivated imbecility.
He didn't say anything that was racist. He said something that only a racist or somebody maybe trying to show a flare for historical fact selling history books, might say for racist or ulterior reasons. Try not to ask absurd questions.
OK. Try not to be an ass.