No rumors, just facts of what happened to my 9700Pr with CAT 3.8's

Paveslave

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I didn't realize it until I came on here but I was experiencing the same problems with my 9700pro as many have rumored about. I had already filled out the paper work and was about to RMA my card to gigabyte for the same problems. I wasn't able to troubleshoot the 3.8's overheating though as I had to roll back the drivers so I wouldn't destroy my monitor.

I was running the 3.8's fine for about a week and then it just happened. I was in the middle of a multiplayer game and my computer just froze and then the monitor shut off. I could hear the game still playing in the background but I lost my video. I shut down and restarted and checked all my video settings to make sure everything was good, and I went back into a game. This time after about a minute the screen shut off, a loud ear peircing squeal started coming from my monitor and a yellow caution box came on the screen telling me to adjust my frequency. I had to power down to get the shrill to stop.

Not knowing what it was, and thinking I just fried my video card I rebooted and went into Bios. I took all my overclocked settings back to normal and went into windows. I changed my resolution to 800X600 and set the frequency to 85. I monitored my temps and ran Prime95 to make sure my normal clock settings were good. I let prime run for about 15 minutes with no problems. I then ran 3dmark2003... I almost made it all the way through before the computer locked up and I had to power down. I rebooted and ran aquamark and about half way through it locked up, the monitor flickered badly and went black, and the ear peircing shrill was back too. I powered down.

It didn't occur to me that it could have been the CAT 3.8's because it was running fine, but the thought did occur to me. So, I uninstalled and used driver cleaner to get rid of the 3.8. I reloaded 3.7's and have since overclocked everything back to my usual (small overclock only). I have benchmarked and ran as many tests as I can find and I am finally back to normal. I have yet to hear the aweful shrill from the monitor, had a lock up, or a black screen. I am not adding to the rumors but I had to post this because of the coincidence of what's going on.

On a side note I had emailed all this to gigabyte as well and they said it was one of two things, my monitor, or my video card. Well, I was worried about both to say the least, but I was sure the problems I was having were from the video card. If my monitor was going, the game wouldn't have been locking up in the first place, and I wouldn't have had to reboot so many times to fix it. I am pretty sure the problems I experienced were a direct result of the CAT 3.8 Drivers. This was a bad situation for me and almost resulted in me RMAing my card, hope this helps someone.

 

jim1976

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Really sorry to hear that. I hope your problems will be fixed.
Don't know what to say and what to speculate...
BTW I won't risk it I rolled back to 3.7 until things are settled and clarified.
Good luck man.
 

Paveslave

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Well, so far so good. I haven't had a lick of problems since I rolled back to the 3.7's. My card and my monitor are both unaffected by what happened, so I don't think it caused any permanent damage.
 

Auric

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3.8 caused the only significant problem I have ever had with a Radeon. See the thread at rage3d. As soon as this happened I immediately went back to 3.7. Someone at ATI needs to be flogged for it, in my opine.
 

Popfreeze

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Same happend to me with my AIW 9800 Pro. Installed 3.8 and while playing the new COD Dawnville demo my pc totally locked up, lost the signal to the monitor, etc. I went back to the 3.7 cats and I'm having no problems
 

Mem

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The ATI rep said that the firm's top engineers had worked all over the weekend to see if they could replicate conditions in which cards were borked or monitors went phut, and the firm is confident there's no such problems.
"You know how rumours start, Mike", the ATI rep said. "We're pleased to be able to say this one hasn't got any legs at all".




Link.

I think the jury is still out on this one.
 

Pete

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So your video card was OC'ed when you installed the 3.8's? Maybe they're interacting badly with OC'ed cards?
 

Excelsior

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Originally posted by: Popfreeze
Same happend to me with my AIW 9800 Pro. Installed 3.8 and while playing the new COD Dawnville demo my pc totally locked up, lost the signal to the monitor, etc. I went back to the 3.7 cats and I'm having no problems

Same here, with a stock rev 3 9700Pro. I am just gonna use the 3.7s until they figure all this out, or until the 4.0s come out next year.
 

Oyeve

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Almost happened to me while trying to play madden 2004. Screen would blank out. Tried several times. Went back to 3.7 and all is ok. Thank God my monitor has high built in refresh rate.
 

Paveslave

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Originally posted by: Pete
So your video card was OC'ed when you installed the 3.8's? Maybe they're interacting badly with OC'ed cards?

That could have something to do with it in fact, but I don't know how significant of an overclock my card has with the AGP locked at 33/67?

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The ATI rep said that the firm's top engineers had worked all over the weekend to see if they could replicate conditions in which cards were borked or monitors went phut, and the firm is confident there's no such problems.
"You know how rumours start, Mike", the ATI rep said. "We're pleased to be able to say this one hasn't got any legs at all".


I can't explain why other cannot duplicate the problem, maybe it is my whole computer setup, I don't know. I do know that I DID have a horrible problem
 

InlineFive

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Originally posted by: Paveslave
Well, so far so good. I haven't had a lick of problems since I rolled back to the 3.7's. My card and my monitor are both unaffected by what happened, so I don't think it caused any permanent damage.

That's good. Once I saw what was happening I rolled back to the 3.7s so as not to damage my $500 LCD. I don't care as much about my $60 Radeon 9000 Non-Pro.

Of course ATI is denying everything but I bet there will be a driver release very soon fixing this problem.
 

JBT

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I just started up CS with my 19" Philip 109B on omega's dell leaked 3.85's and I have my monitor run at the highiest settings possible at a give res using reforce. Anyways I boot up and I notice my mouse ismoving REALLY fast wtf? so I check the refresh rate using my monitors control buttons and it says 160hz!!!!! that is way more than this monirot can handle. so I exit quick and check what the real refresh rate my monitors supports in windows it is only 120hz... sO I hope it didn't damage my monitor. Either way I am going back to 3.7's !!!
 

Evdawg

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im running with 3.8's and i havnt had any problems.... ive had em since the day they came out, what day was that? I was playing splinter cell and i was lagging a bit... so i think i might switch back to the 3.7's just because all was dandy then
 

AnMig

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I usually upgrade to the latest catalyst drivers but rage3d is full of horror stories about the cat 3.8 so I have not and mostl likely not try them out.


The sad part is ATI is denying that the drivers may cause some monitors to fail. Which could be understandle since they may be liable for a few thousand monitors.


Hope the next catalyst is better.
 

kylebisme

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rage3d had one guy spreading all sorts of crap about the 3.8's and a few others taging along, but that hardly makes for a convensing case to anyone who knows better than to belive everything they read.
 

tacom8

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Originally posted by: Lawranch
I have the same problem with COD Dawnville demo
and the original COD demo.

Me too, was using those zany new Omega's so i nuked those for 3.7s and it runs fine now. On a side note my roomate has a moded 9500 with the omegas(3.8?) and it runs fine, but my 9600p has the problems in that game... I'm not freaken out about the 3.8s just yet everything else was great up till the COD demo.
 

FacelessNobody

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Sorry to be Mr. Doom

I'm running Cat 3.8s on my expensive Radeon 9700 Pro and on my even more expensive NEC FP2141SB-BK monitor with no problems at all. If you want to, make sure to lock your refresh rates with RefreshForce and give the drivers a shot.
 

LotharJade

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You would think they would just examine the changes in code from 3.7 to 3.8 and could quickly narrow down to the problem.
 
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