After reviewing all of the facsts of the case, I find the OP guilty of being a troll and an idiot to boot.
Im out.
Im out.
Originally posted by: akshatp
Originally posted by: ManyBeers
I read the article. The difference between me and you is I don't believe his cock and bull story and you do. And he in fact did lie to investigators at least once. Why do you believe him?Originally posted by: akshatp
Originally posted by: ManyBeers
Originally posted by: MrPickins
Originally posted by: a123456
Maybe he came out empty handed because he was about to pass out from the smoke inhalation? Who knows since none of us were there. I skimmed the article and didn't really get the fine details. The witness accounts seem highly conflicting, with the daughter disagreeing with the mom about how hard the guy tried to get back in after they arrived. It's not unheard of to get a panic attack and have your mind freeze up, especially in really stressful situations.
Only that guy knows whether he did murder or not but the arson evidence is lacking so the most probable conclusion is the fire was accidental. To me, I don't think he deserved the death penalty since it's not beyond unreasonable doubt that it's Murder 1 from Arson. Maybe Murder 2 if that for X years in jail while they review the evidence some more.
I think a lot of people don't realize how strong the survival instinct really is.
I agree with datalink7 that sometimes those instincts can be overcome, but that is a kind of discipline that I'd wager few possess. It's really easy to sit comfortably at a computer and say what you think you would do in the middle of a blazing inferno, but unless you've been in one, you really cant say with any certainty.
Yeah it was a blazing inferno only after the firemen arrived. Was it a blazing inferno when his daughter was yelling "daddy! daddy!? How did he get out unhurt in a "blazing inferno" without her? She was found in his room. Did he walk over her to get out?
Did you even read the entire article? Judging by your last three questions, you did not.
I have to admit I am not much of a reader, but this article is exteemely well written. I actually did read the whole thing, maybe you should do the same and then form a more valid opinion.
And before asking such questions, try putting one of your fingers into an open flame for even 5 seconds without moving it.
Texas obviously executed an innocent man.
Coward? Maybe. Arsonist? Surely not.
according to Hurst who was never at the scene.
I didnt believe his "cock n bull" story either. I am hardly that naive to beleive a defense of "I didnt do it."
I am basing my opinion on the fact that no VALID proof that arson was committed exists. He was executed for Arson. And there is no scientific proof that he committed arson. Read the whole article.
Originally posted by: akshatp
After reviewing all of the facsts of the case, I find the OP guilty of being a troll and an idiot to boot.
Im out.
Originally posted by: Perknose
Not even close, you fucking twerp. You don't even begin to know what I've experienced in my life, and I'll bet you $1,000 right now, by paypal, I can prove it and make you eat the ignorant shit you're attempting to spew.
Put up or crawl the fuck away.
Originally posted by: Perknose
Minimum $1,000, I'll go as high as you want, fucktard, to be held by a mutually agreed upon third party.
PUT UP OR STFU, asshole. :|
Originally posted by: Pheran
Originally posted by: Perknose
Not even close, you fucking twerp. You don't even begin to know what I've experienced in my life, and I'll bet you $1,000 right now, by paypal, I can prove it and make you eat the ignorant shit you're attempting to spew.
Put up or crawl the fuck away.
Originally posted by: Perknose
Minimum $1,000, I'll go as high as you want, fucktard, to be held by a mutually agreed upon third party.
PUT UP OR STFU, asshole. :|
Anyone who is willing to post drivel like this should not be a moderator on this forum.
Originally posted by: ManyBeers
Originally posted by: MrPickins
Originally posted by: a123456
Maybe he came out empty handed because he was about to pass out from the smoke inhalation? Who knows since none of us were there. I skimmed the article and didn't really get the fine details. The witness accounts seem highly conflicting, with the daughter disagreeing with the mom about how hard the guy tried to get back in after they arrived. It's not unheard of to get a panic attack and have your mind freeze up, especially in really stressful situations.
Only that guy knows whether he did murder or not but the arson evidence is lacking so the most probable conclusion is the fire was accidental. To me, I don't think he deserved the death penalty since it's not beyond unreasonable doubt that it's Murder 1 from Arson. Maybe Murder 2 if that for X years in jail while they review the evidence some more.
I think a lot of people don't realize how strong the survival instinct really is.
I agree with datalink7 that sometimes those instincts can be overcome, but that is a kind of discipline that I'd wager few possess. It's really easy to sit comfortably at a computer and say what you think you would do in the middle of a blazing inferno, but unless you've been in one, you really cant say with any certainty.
Yeah it was a blazing inferno only after the firemen arrived. Was it a blazing inferno when his daughter was yelling "daddy! daddy!? How did he get out unhurt in a "blazing inferno" without her? She was found in his room. Did he walk over her to get out?
A flashover is the near simultaneous ignition of all combustible material in an enclosed area. When certain materials are heated they undergo thermal decomposition and release flammable gases. Flashover occurs when the majority of surfaces in a space are heated to the autoignition temperature of the flammable gases (see also Flash point). Flashover normally occurs at 500 °C (930 °F) or 1,100°F for ordinary combustibles, and an incident heat flux at floor level of 1.8 Btu/ft²*s (20 kW/m²)[1].
An example of flashover is when a piece of furniture is ignited in a domestic room. The fire involving the initial piece of furniture can produce a layer of hot smoke which spreads across the ceiling in the room. The hot buoyant smoke layer grows in depth, as it is bounded by the walls of the room. The radiated heat from this layer heats the surfaces of the combustible materials in the room, causing them to give off flammable gases via pyrolysis. When the surface temperatures become high enough, these gases ignite. The resulting flame spread across all combustible surfaces in the room is very rapid, and can engulf the entire space in fire within a few seconds.
Originally posted by: ManyBeers
I don't think the jury convicted him based on all this crap. They were probably all loving parents simply didn't believe his bullshit story and hung him.
Originally posted by: MrPickins
Originally posted by: ManyBeers
I don't think the jury convicted him based on all this crap. They were probably all loving parents simply didn't believe his bullshit story and hung him.
For sake of the integrity of our justice system, I hope you are never picked to serve on a jury...
Originally posted by: ManyBeers
Originally posted by: jjsole
cliffs? no tiempo ahora.
Basically a 24 year old father awakes to his 2 year old daughter's cries of "Daddy! Daddy! realizes his 975 sq. foot house is on fire and he gets out alive and unhurt but his 3 infant daughters are killed. In my mind--- unless he wanted his daughters dead--his story is impossible for a father.
Originally posted by: MrPickins
Originally posted by: ManyBeers
I don't think the jury convicted him based on all this crap. They were probably all loving parents simply didn't believe his bullshit story and hung him.
For sake of the integrity of humanity, I hope you never procreate...
Originally posted by: MrPickins
Originally posted by: ManyBeers
I don't think the jury convicted him based on all this crap. They were probably all loving parents simply didn't believe his bullshit story and hung him.
For sake of the integrity of our justice system, I hope you are never picked to serve on a jury...
Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: ManyBeers
Originally posted by: jjsole
cliffs? no tiempo ahora.
Basically a 24 year old father awakes to his 2 year old daughter's cries of "Daddy! Daddy! realizes his 975 sq. foot house is on fire and he gets out alive and unhurt but his 3 infant daughters are killed. In my mind--- unless he wanted his daughters dead--his story is impossible for a father.
ok you are a idiot. I love my kids and would risk anything to save them. but hell im not superman. i can't walk into a burning house and get the kids out let alone get in at all.
it takes a matter of seconds for a small fire to get huge. furniture goes up fucking fast. since it has no firecoating.
I also suspect you didn't read the story you posted. it pretty much says that the guy didnt do it and the proscuters and such lied.
Originally posted by: ManyBeers
Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: ManyBeers
Originally posted by: jjsole
cliffs? no tiempo ahora.
Basically a 24 year old father awakes to his 2 year old daughter's cries of "Daddy! Daddy! realizes his 975 sq. foot house is on fire and he gets out alive and unhurt but his 3 infant daughters are killed. In my mind--- unless he wanted his daughters dead--his story is impossible for a father.
ok you are a idiot. I love my kids and would risk anything to save them. but hell im not superman. i can't walk into a burning house and get the kids out let alone get in at all.
it takes a matter of seconds for a small fire to get huge. furniture goes up fucking fast. since it has no firecoating.
I also suspect you didn't read the story you posted. it pretty much says that the guy didnt do it and the proscuters and such lied.
Not true
He didn't walk in he walked out
Of course I read it. That's how I know he lied so as not to look like a coward, which I'm sure you would have done as well. Right?
Hey! I resent that.Originally posted by: Beanie46
Originally posted by: MrPickins
Originally posted by: ManyBeers
I don't think the jury convicted him based on all this crap. They were probably all loving parents simply didn't believe his bullshit story and hung him.
For sake of the integrity of humanity, I hope you never procreate...
There, fixed it for you.
Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: ManyBeers
Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: ManyBeers
Originally posted by: jjsole
cliffs? no tiempo ahora.
Basically a 24 year old father awakes to his 2 year old daughter's cries of "Daddy! Daddy! realizes his 975 sq. foot house is on fire and he gets out alive and unhurt but his 3 infant daughters are killed. In my mind--- unless he wanted his daughters dead--his story is impossible for a father.
ok you are a idiot. I love my kids and would risk anything to save them. but hell im not superman. i can't walk into a burning house and get the kids out let alone get in at all.
it takes a matter of seconds for a small fire to get huge. furniture goes up fucking fast. since it has no firecoating.
I also suspect you didn't read the story you posted. it pretty much says that the guy didnt do it and the proscuters and such lied.
Not true
He didn't walk in he walked out
Of course I read it. That's how I know he lied so as not to look like a coward, which I'm sure you would have done as well. Right?
hmm i see why everyone is just calling you a idiot and ignoring you. you can't see facts.
I don't watch kid children's movies. Thanks anyways.Originally posted by: ManyBeers
watch this to get it
Originally posted by: Howard
shitty thread is shitty, please lock
Originally posted by: SearchMaster
No more rhymes, and I mean it!
Originally posted by: Phokus
The state that gave us George Bush also executed an innocent man? Give Texas back to Mexico.
Originally posted by: mchammer
Originally posted by: Phokus
The state that gave us George Bush also executed an innocent man? Give Texas back to Mexico.
Are you nuts, there are Intel fabs there.