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PottedMeat

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Apr 17, 2002
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much better ep. back to a monster of the week zany episode.

they did a little nod to kim manners ( mulder putting flowers on his grave ) who directed a bunch of xfiles episodes

SAY CHEESE

 
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bbhaag

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Tonights episode was definitely fun. I was laughing the whole time at how quirky it was.
 

Childs

Lifer
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Yeah, this was a good one. Its too bad they didn't start this series with this one. It was good to see the manager from Flight of the Concords again. I forgot how funny he is.
 

Hugh Jass

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I'd assume if ratings are good they will be picked up for a full season.

And you assume wrong.

This run is only six episodes no matter the ratings.

The ratings will then be used to gauge if there's enough interest to possibly do more in the future.

Duchovny has already stated that he and Anderson are not really looking to do full 20+ episode seasons.
 

lupi

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Apr 8, 2001
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2nd was better than first. Haven't watched 3rd yet, but getting first two right off the bat made me think it's odd that this "season" is already a third of the way done (and now half way).
 

clamum

Lifer
Feb 13, 2003
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Ugh, I don't like the third at all (watching on Fox's site, almost done). The slapstick-ridiculous-type-tone is just so different from the previous two episodes. I used to watch X-Files back in the 90s, not a die hard viewer, but I watched it from time to time. So this is what a "monster of the week" episode was? I don't remember the X-Files being this fuckin stupid. Damn. I really wanna turn this crap off but I'll just finish it I guess.
 

MongGrel

Lifer
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I actually got a kick out of last nights, They needed to loosen up a bit again.

Grinned a lot here and there.

"Tell that to my dead friend George"

 
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Triumph

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Ugh, I don't like the third at all (watching on Fox's site, almost done). The slapstick-ridiculous-type-tone is just so different from the previous two episodes. I used to watch X-Files back in the 90s, not a die hard viewer, but I watched it from time to time. So this is what a "monster of the week" episode was? I don't remember the X-Files being this fuckin stupid. Damn. I really wanna turn this crap off but I'll just finish it I guess.

This was not a traditional X-files monster of the week episode. Throughout the series, they did a bunch of weird/comic/off-kilter episodes, maybe one or two a season, that were usually pretty well received. This episode felt like that. I liked it. I agree, if someone just showed me this episode outside of the Xfiles context, I'd be like what the hell is this? But knowing the characters, its great.
 

clamum

Lifer
Feb 13, 2003
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This was not a traditional X-files monster of the week episode. Throughout the series, they did a bunch of weird/comic/off-kilter episodes, maybe one or two a season, that were usually pretty well received. This episode felt like that. I liked it. I agree, if someone just showed me this episode outside of the Xfiles context, I'd be like what the hell is this? But knowing the characters, its great.
Yeah seems I'm in the minority here in not liking it. Oh well; lookin forward to the next episode though.
 

Charmonium

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Yeah seems I'm in the minority here in not liking it. Oh well; lookin forward to the next episode though.
No. I thought it was incredibly stupid. I get the joke but it just wasn't funny - at all. Besides that, the comic book philosophy was just trite rather than interesting or insightful.

IDK, maybe I just wasn't in the right mood to watch it. But I think I assumed that for a 6 episode run, they'd have some sort of connecting theme that would recast the original series in a new light. For as popular as the x-files was, the episodes were so meandering and often contradictory that they couldn't even put together a consistent, convincing finale.

It must have been the inspiration for LOST.
 

emperus

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This new run is ruining the memory of the original X-files for me. Was the acting in the original this bad?
 

Charmonium

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This new run is ruining the memory of the original X-files for me. Was the acting in the original this bad?
I think so. But to be fair it could have just been bad direction. I've seen Anderson in The Fall and she's very good. Her character there still has a pretty flat affect, but the subtle emotion is there.

Duchovny I haven't seen in Californication so he might be good in that but I've seen Aquarius, a new show about the Manson era that aired this summer, and he also has the same flat affect that you associate with the x-files except I didn't see any real acting there either.

I think Duchovny was probably type cast, by which I mean that he's essentially playing himself. I suspect that if you met him IRL the personality wouldn't be much different. Anderson I give more credit but I could just be reading into her performances.
 
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I think so. But to be fair it could have just been bad direction. I've seen Anderson in The Fall and she's very good. Her character there still has a pretty flat affect, but the subtle emotion is there.

Duchovny I haven't seen in Californication so he might be good in that but I've seen Aquarius, a new show about the Manson era that aired this summer, and he also has the same flat affect that you associate with the x-files except I didn't see any real acting there either.

I think Duchovny was probably type cast, by which I mean that he's essentially playing himself. I suspect that if you met him IRL the personality wouldn't be much different. Anderson I give more credit but I could just be reading into her performances.

Californication is overrated as hell. You can watch the first and last episodes of the first season and get everything that show will ever offer. The rest is just blech attempt at being somewhat edgy dark comedy and T&A, which can be ok but I have no idea how the hell that show kept going as it just plain did not evolve. And I liked all the actors and setup, I just felt like they never actually went anywhere with it. There's an episode of Seinfeld where Kramer reads from a Penthouse Forum, and that's what Californication comes off across, just seeing how ridiculous of made-up sex bullshit story they can come up with shoehorned into a family drama. It just wasn't particularly great at either.

The Fall was ok but it wasn't particularly spectacular. Anderson has been a lot better in other stuff. Duchovny does tend to play more or less the same character (just with twists).

No. I thought it was incredibly stupid. I get the joke but it just wasn't funny - at all. Besides that, the comic book philosophy was just trite rather than interesting or insightful.

IDK, maybe I just wasn't in the right mood to watch it. But I think I assumed that for a 6 episode run, they'd have some sort of connecting theme that would recast the original series in a new light. For as popular as the x-files was, the episodes were so meandering and often contradictory that they couldn't even put together a consistent, convincing finale.

It must have been the inspiration for LOST.

Which joke? There were a bunch. They even reference the fan theory that Scully is immortal which comes from the episode where Peter Boyle plays someone that can see when/how people will die, but can't read Scully. (That episode also has one of the funniest moments when Boyle insinuates that Mulder will die of autoerotic asphyxiation.)

I thought it was good, not spectacular, but good. It was quite a bit more tongue-in-cheek than even similar episodes in the original run. But it and X-Cops (and there's one where a movie gets made based on Mulder and Scully and it gets ridiculous, but is still fun) are great even though they're super cheesy bad at times.

I was expecting them to be doing a coherent mini-series as well, but it seems like they're just making more episodes. The first two fell totally flat for me, I thought they were just really mediocre.

I remember reading articles saying X-Files will suck if they do monster of the week as that's what ruined the original and I think that is crazy. The main story was dumb as hell (and the way they've tried to turn it with the new episodes is terrible), and while there were some good episodes in it (especially early on, mainly before the Krycheck and the alien bounty hunter bullshit, although there were some decent ones after that). Monster of the week episodes were always the best.
 

Childs

Lifer
Jul 9, 2000
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Californication is overrated as hell. You can watch the first and last episodes of the first season and get everything that show will ever offer. The rest is just blech attempt at being somewhat edgy dark comedy and T&A, which can be ok but I have no idea how the hell that show kept going as it just plain did not evolve. And I liked all the actors and setup, I just felt like they never actually went anywhere with it.

It was good when he was shadowing the rock star, but yeah, after that it could have ended and it would have been fine. It actually seemed like it ended in each of the last 3 or 4 seasons, but it kept getting renewed.

And in general I think Duchovny's acting is fine in this season's X-files. He's basically doing Mulder after 14 or so years, so its fine. People used to complain about him not emoting back then too.
 
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Charmonium

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I thought it was good, not spectacular, but good. It was quite a bit more tongue-in-cheek than even similar episodes in the original run. But it and X-Cops (and there's one where a movie gets made based on Mulder and Scully and it gets ridiculous, but is still fun) are great even though they're super cheesy bad at times.
I don't generally have a problem with what I'll call "4th wall" or fan service episodes. I think they have their place. But if what you're producing is something that more or less fits into the "drama" category, and I think that's at least the intention with the x-files, then it has to work w/in that context. You don't just essentially throw out the whole premise of the show to get some ratings and/or yuks.

This episode didn't fit, at least in my opinion. I'll admit that I was never a huge fan of the show but I think I saw most of the episodes when they originally aired. And some of the references you make do sound familiar although I can't really remember the context. So I don't know how closely this resembles the previous 'gag' episodes. But I never noticed their being truly out of place. Maybe I just wasn't paying attention.

I think that's my main objection. But even as a comedic episode, it wasn't very imaginative. I can see how it could be seen as funny, but to just go bizarro-world, man bites dog, w/o much more was disappointing.
 

Childs

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I don't generally have a problem with what I'll call "4th wall" or fan service episodes. I think they have their place. But if what you're producing is something that more or less fits into the "drama" category, and I think that's at least the intention with the x-files, then it has to work w/in that context. You don't just essentially throw out the whole premise of the show to get some ratings and/or yuks.

This episode didn't fit, at least in my opinion. I'll admit that I was never a huge fan of the show but I think I saw most of the episodes when they originally aired. And some of the references you make do sound familiar although I can't really remember the context. So I don't know how closely this resembles the previous 'gag' episodes. But I never noticed their being truly out of place. Maybe I just wasn't paying attention.

I think that's my main objection. But even as a comedic episode, it wasn't very imaginative. I can see how it could be seen as funny, but to just go bizarro-world, man bites dog, w/o much more was disappointing.

There used to be a handful of these kinds of episodes every season. I remember one where Mulder and Scully were retelling the same event from different point of views. Luke Wilson guest starred. And they had a black and white episode with like the deformed guy from Goonies and Cher did a concert at the end. I always liked the odd one offs, then the monster of the week episodes. The mythology episodes always were a drag.
 

Charmonium

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There used to be a handful of these kinds of episodes every season. I remember one where Mulder and Scully were retelling the same event from different point of views. Luke Wilson guest starred. And they had a black and white episode with like the deformed guy from Goonies and Cher did a concert at the end. I always liked the odd one offs, then the monster of the week episodes. The mythology episodes always were a drag.
Right. I see what you're saying and I don't have a problem with that as long as the joke is consistent with the rest of the series.

I know I'm not making myself clear here and there's probably a term for what I'm trying to say but the best I can do right now is give an example.

Take Supernatural. They do these kinds of episodes too, but Sam and Dean stay in character, mostly, for them. If you watch the show, think of the episode where some people were doing a version of Ghost Hunters. Or maybe the one where they were at a fan convention for the books of the guy who turned out to be a prophet. That's where they met the girl who last season played a hacker chick.

Mulder and Scully where out of character for this episode. It seemed like the writers were trying to keep them in character as much as they could but the premise was just too stupid for them to do that.

Maybe 'stupid' isn't the right word. What I'm trying to say is that the gag overwhelmed the story and the characters and that's really what I didn't like.

edit: An example of the opposite of this is something like Angie Tribeca. There, the characters themselves are jokes so when they do that sort of self-reflective humor, it works. You can't do that with characters you want your viewers to take "seriously." Well, you can, but it's . . . jarring.
 
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Childs

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Right. I see what you're saying and I don't have a problem with that as long as the joke is consistent with the rest of the series.

I know I'm not making myself clear here and there's probably a term for what I'm trying to say but the best I can do right now is give an example.

Take Supernatural. They do these kinds of episodes too, but Sam and Dean stay in character, mostly, for them. If you watch the show, think of the episode where some people were doing a version of Ghost Hunters. Or maybe the one where they were at a fan convention for the books of the guy who turned out to be a prophet. That's where they met the girl who last season played a hacker chick.

Mulder and Scully where out of character for this episode. It seemed like the writers were trying to keep them in character as much as they could but the premise was just too stupid for them to do that.

Maybe 'stupid' isn't the right word. What I'm trying to say is that the gag overwhelmed the story and the characters and that's really what I didn't like.

edit: An example of the opposite of this is something like Angie Tribeca. There, the characters themselves are jokes so when they do that sort of self-reflective humor, it works. You can't do that with characters you want your viewers to take "seriously." Well, you can, but it's . . . jarring.

Before Duchovny left the first time they actually had his character addicted to porn. He kept calling Scully outside of adult theaters, and Scully screwed a monster or serial killer or something. Anyways, just an example of the Mulder and Scully you got depended on the episode. I think the only difference with this episode is that they let Scully in on the fun a little more than I remember when she showed some skin.

In a way I dont really see it being any different than Supernatural. One episode they are crying about not trusting each other or some shit, then next episode Loki is making it groundhog day or Dean's trying to jerk off to Asian boobie mags. I think the oddball Supernatural episodes are the best, especially the ones written by Ben Edlund.
 

Charmonium

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In a way I dont really see it being any different than Supernatural. One episode they are crying about not trusting each other or some shit, then next episode Loki is making it groundhog day or Dean's trying to jerk off to Asian boobie mags. I think the oddball Supernatural episodes are the best, especially the ones written by Ben Edlund.
I wouldn't really consider those gag episodes. Those were actually consistent with the show's theme and Sam and Dean both stayed in character, but again, mostly.

I don't really remember many x-file episodes clearly since I was never a huge fan. I thought it was ok for television but nothing special. So it's possible I just never noticed the disjointedness before.
 

Imp

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edit: An example of the opposite of this is something like Angie Tribeca. There, the characters themselves are jokes so when they do that sort of self-reflective humor, it works. You can't do that with characters you want your viewers to take "seriously." Well, you can, but it's . . . jarring.

Fuq. I want to see that beacause Rashida Jone's in it... but no TBS. It got swapped out for Peachtree years ago.
 
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