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John Connor

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Before Duchovny left the first time they actually had his character addicted to porn. He kept calling Scully outside of adult theaters, and Scully screwed a monster or serial killer or something. Anyways, just an example of the Mulder and Scully you got depended on the episode. I think the only difference with this episode is that they let Scully in on the fun a little more than I remember when she showed some skin.

In a way I dont really see it being any different than Supernatural. One episode they are crying about not trusting each other or some shit, then next episode Loki is making it groundhog day or Dean's trying to jerk off to Asian boobie mags. I think the oddball Supernatural episodes are the best, especially the ones written by Ben Edlund.


Ever watch Red Shoe Diaries?
 
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I don't generally have a problem with what I'll call "4th wall" or fan service episodes. I think they have their place. But if what you're producing is something that more or less fits into the "drama" category, and I think that's at least the intention with the x-files, then it has to work w/in that context. You don't just essentially throw out the whole premise of the show to get some ratings and/or yuks.

This episode didn't fit, at least in my opinion. I'll admit that I was never a huge fan of the show but I think I saw most of the episodes when they originally aired. And some of the references you make do sound familiar although I can't really remember the context. So I don't know how closely this resembles the previous 'gag' episodes. But I never noticed their being truly out of place. Maybe I just wasn't paying attention.

I think that's my main objection. But even as a comedic episode, it wasn't very imaginative. I can see how it could be seen as funny, but to just go bizarro-world, man bites dog, w/o much more was disappointing.

I can definitely see why you feel that way, but it really isn't out of character for the characters or show at all. They had a lot of similar stuff in the original (even in serious episodes they'd have some pretty funny tongue-in-cheek moments although they often were a lot more subtle).

They were my favorite episodes, as the main story could get really stupid but because they were often oppressingly serious about it, I think it ruined it. There were a few where they had fun with it (alien who took the form of a negro baseball player back in like the 50s).

Right. I see what you're saying and I don't have a problem with that as long as the joke is consistent with the rest of the series.

I know I'm not making myself clear here and there's probably a term for what I'm trying to say but the best I can do right now is give an example.

Take Supernatural. They do these kinds of episodes too, but Sam and Dean stay in character, mostly, for them. If you watch the show, think of the episode where some people were doing a version of Ghost Hunters. Or maybe the one where they were at a fan convention for the books of the guy who turned out to be a prophet. That's where they met the girl who last season played a hacker chick.

Mulder and Scully where out of character for this episode. It seemed like the writers were trying to keep them in character as much as they could but the premise was just too stupid for them to do that.

Maybe 'stupid' isn't the right word. What I'm trying to say is that the gag overwhelmed the story and the characters and that's really what I didn't like.

edit: An example of the opposite of this is something like Angie Tribeca. There, the characters themselves are jokes so when they do that sort of self-reflective humor, it works. You can't do that with characters you want your viewers to take "seriously." Well, you can, but it's . . . jarring.

You've done a good job explaining your view and I actually agree. I really like(d; we'll see with the rest of the episodes and if it continues past this) the show but it is very inconsistent. They basically needed the quirky silly stuff to chill out the serious episodes as they could get to be a bit much. Plus a lot of the monster of the week stuff was more serious.

I do think it could have been even better if they could've maintained an even tone, and they had quite a few that did that fairly well (the Peter Boyle one for instance was often silly, but they handled it really well so that it had some real emotional punch). It would have been very difficult for them to pull off for an extended period of time though, and I don't know that they could have gotten the same tone (it really has a Silence of the Lambs type of solemnness in quite a lot of it, which is part of what made it really good, especially early on).

The silly episodes were necessary I think, and work as good foil for the serious stuff. Its a give and take. Watching old episodes I tend towards the silly ones, then the monster of the week stuff, and then the main plot. They're all enjoyable in their own way, but the main story just could get overbearing at times.

Before Duchovny left the first time they actually had his character addicted to porn. He kept calling Scully outside of adult theaters, and Scully screwed a monster or serial killer or something. Anyways, just an example of the Mulder and Scully you got depended on the episode. I think the only difference with this episode is that they let Scully in on the fun a little more than I remember when she showed some skin.

In a way I dont really see it being any different than Supernatural. One episode they are crying about not trusting each other or some shit, then next episode Loki is making it groundhog day or Dean's trying to jerk off to Asian boobie mags. I think the oddball Supernatural episodes are the best, especially the ones written by Ben Edlund.

Yeah, I always got a chuckle about them making fun of Mulder for his porn addiction (Scully found tapes in their office; even the Lone Gunmen make fun of him for it at one point IIRC which was funny because they were basically nerd stereotypes).

Yeah she goes on vacation or something and meets a guy with a tattoo that makes him kill people or something. It was supposed to be directed by Quentin Tarantino even.

Yeah they usually had Scully play it straight (a few where they didn't), and that often was the best part. I didn't even hate when they added the T-1000 and then Scully kinda changed roles, although it often wasn't great.

A bunch of the ones you mentioned were some of my favorites (the Great Mutato one that ended with the Cher concert, the one where they tell their versions of events and they differ pretty wildly, there's one where Scully talks to some sci-fi writer about an event that happened and how people had different views of what occurred, and a bunch of others I can't recall off the top of my head).
 

PottedMeat

Lifer
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now that felt like a traditional xfiles ep

it took 4 episodes to get back into the groove
 

13Gigatons

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Ep4 made me want to throw up. Bluck. This 6 episode arc is kind of pointless. Feels like everyone is phoning it in.
 

bbhaag

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I thought this one was just ok. It had that typical monster of the week feel which is cool but I just didn't connect with this episode.
 

Imp

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Ever watch Red Shoe Diaries?

Worst. Softcore porn. Ever. The Twilight Zone looked dirtier and more interesting.

Ep4 made me want to throw up. Bluck. This 6 episode arc is kind of pointless. Feels like everyone is phoning it in.

I also don't understand this. With just 6 episodes, I thought that they would stick to the central alien storyline. But it's really, so far, just 4 disjointed X-Files episodes, which were the best when the show was still on with 20 episode seasons, but with just 6?
 

John Connor

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Worst. Softcore porn. Ever. The Twilight Zone looked dirtier and more interesting.


Well, when your in high school without the Playboy Channel, that's all you got.


My friend and I camped out in the backyard and I wired cable to the backyard just to watch Red Shoe Diaries. LOL! Beats the hell out of that saggy shit called Sex & The City.
 

Charmonium

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Ep4 made me want to throw up. Bluck. This 6 episode arc is kind of pointless. Feels like everyone is phoning it in.
I didn't really see the point of it either. Although if you watched the preview trailer for next week's show, it looks like they're going to try to introduce Mulder and Scully clones.

I think they're looking very carefully at the demographic consisting of people who were too young to watch the original show, or IOW, millennials. They know that they can't get Duchovny and Anderson to do a full run - or at least I'm guessing that's the case. So the whole point of this was to test the waters for a reboot. Or maybe not reboot but x-files 2.0.

The monster of the week format has been very, very good to shows like Supernatural. But that show is solidly in the fantasy rather than scifi camp. I think there might be a market for a similar scifi based show.
 

Childs

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The monster of the week format has been very, very good to shows like Supernatural. But that show is solidly in the fantasy rather than scifi camp. I think there might be a market for a similar scifi based show.

The show was called Fringe.
 

13Gigatons

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I also don't understand this. With just 6 episodes, I thought that they would stick to the central alien storyline. But it's really, so far, just 4 disjointed X-Files episodes, which were the best when the show was still on with 20 episode seasons, but with just 6?

I hoped too that it would be 6 episodes of alien government conspiracies stuff with the smoking man and the other older guys. The creature of the week is just filler for a 22 episode season.

Chris Carter was never much of a writer though.
 

Triumph

Lifer
Oct 9, 1999
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Holy shit this episode was pathetic. What a piece of absolute garbage. What the fuck is this? None of this episode represents X-files, its produced like an episode of Bones or CSI with its sardonic cast of new characters, "inspiring" musical backing tracks, low-brow humor, and wrapped-up message at the conclusion. Pathetic. What are they trying to do, attract a completely different type of audience?

X-files had numerous departure episodes as previously discussed in this thread, along the lines of the Were-monster earlier this season. That episode was the kind of artistically expressive and humorous episodes we'd seen in the past. This...this was just a completely different type of television. This was Rizzoli and Isles meets Fringe. What a piece of shit, who the hell wrote this?
 

JEDI

Lifer
Sep 25, 2001
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so who were the guest appearances for eps 5?
I saw the lone gunmen and the chain smoking man.
anyone else?

altho I loved it, wtf is going on w/the overall Illuminati story arc?
wrap everything up in the final episode?
 
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MongGrel

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I'm just going to agree with Triumph on that episode.

I was rolling my eyes at the wife through most of it, I think.

 
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Childs

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Holy shit this episode was pathetic. What a piece of absolute garbage. What the fuck is this? None of this episode represents X-files, its produced like an episode of Bones or CSI with its sardonic cast of new characters, "inspiring" musical backing tracks, low-brow humor, and wrapped-up message at the conclusion. Pathetic. What are they trying to do, attract a completely different type of audience?

X-files had numerous departure episodes as previously discussed in this thread, along the lines of the Were-monster earlier this season. That episode was the kind of artistically expressive and humorous episodes we'd seen in the past. This...this was just a completely different type of television. This was Rizzoli and Isles meets Fringe. What a piece of shit, who the hell wrote this?

I thought it was pretty good until like 3/4 of the episode. Lauren Ambrose as a modern young Scully was pretty good, and the back and forth between the two generations was fun. The opening scene was good too, but the episode kinda fell apart when trying to make that make sense.
 

JEDI

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Sep 25, 2001
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Lauren Ambrose as a modern young Scully was pretty good, and the back and forth between the two generations was fun. The opening scene was good too, but the episode kinda fell apart when trying to make that make sense.

what is up w/her face and all those zits?
like she had an allergic reaction to the make up?
 

MongGrel

Lifer
Dec 3, 2013
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Lauren Ambrose as a modern young Scully was pretty good

I just found her to be a bit annoying myself, so that didn't help things here at any rate. Even when intended with the Scully v 2.0 thing going on.
 

Childs

Lifer
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what is up w/her face and all those zits?
like she had an allergic reaction to the make up?

I just found her to be a bit annoying myself, so that didn't help things here at any rate. Even when intended with the Scully v 2.0 thing going on.

Well, HD doesnt do some people any favors. She looked fine until they did closeups. She looked bad in The Dig as well. Probably just getting old. I liked the update to the Scully 2.0, although she obviously isnt as pretty as 1.0.
 

MongGrel

Lifer
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Well, HD doesnt do some people any favors. She looked fine until they did closeups. She looked bad in The Dig as well. Probably just getting old. I liked the update to the Scully 2.0, although she obviously isnt as pretty as 1.0.

It really wasn't her appearance to me, just maybe it felt she was forcing it a bit much, but they are trying to cram things into a few episodes to begin with.
 

monkeydelmagico

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Yes, the two episodes were complete different, but at least the first episode was new stuff. New stuff with bad writing I'll admit, but new stuff nonetheless.

The 2nd episode felt like an old style X-Files episode, but with phoned-in performances, and even worse writing, esp. with those stupid flashbacks.

+1. 1st episode was pretty bad but this is the worst. Could the acting be any more flat and uninspired?

I was really excited by the prospects. Very disappointed. Deleted from DVR.
 
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