Nobody noticed the OTHER bill California passed about Vaccines.

[shortylickens]

http://cubiclane.com/california-vaccine-law-jerry-brown-signs-california-vaccine-bill-law-55751/


You can no longer use a religious excuse to get out of vaccinations. You need a medical reason AND it has to be verified by a doctor.

That seems weird to me. I always thought of California as the place that let you get away with any kind of bullshit, so long as you claimed it was part of your belief system.

Apparently only Mississippi and West Va. have similar laws.

 

[sandorski]

Anti-Vax nuttery has become so widespread that it is a Health Hazard.

 

[Sonikku]

If walking about unvaccinated only harmed yourself I would 100% agree that it should not be imposed on anyone.

 

[master_shake_]

common sense 1

nutjobs 0

 

[TheVrolok]

Now this I can support.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Now this I can support.

Every now and again the blind squirrel finds a nut.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

California has had a few outbreaks of illnesses that are easily prevented from vaccination I'm sure that's why they have tightened up.
Oddly enough most Southern conservative states have the most strict vaccination rules & laws.

 

[Painman]

That seems weird to me. I always thought of California as the place that let you get away with any kind of bullshit, so long as you claimed it was part of your belief system.

>California

>Place that lets you get away with any kind of bullshit

 

[Artdeco]

The craziest thing was when undocumented aliens would contract something like whooping cough, go to Disneyland and infect a ton of unvaccinated people.

It's a a bad combo and even art majors in the state legislature understood the problem.

 

[interchange]

There are many vaccines which I find perfectly acceptable to refuse en masse without likely public health danger.

Too bad that generally comes along with refusing ones that do have compelling public health interest.

 

[Fenixgoon]

The craziest thing was when undocumented aliens would contract something like whooping cough, go to Disneyland and infect a ton of unvaccinated people.

It's a a bad combo and even art majors in the state legislature understood the problem.

actually the outbreaks were in orange county-ish and anaheim, IIRC. home to rich, white, jenny-mcarthy types who think they know better than hundreds of years of established medical practice that wiped out smallpox, polio, etc.

 

[Atreus21]

http://cubiclane.com/california-vaccine-law-jerry-brown-signs-california-vaccine-bill-law-55751/


You can no longer use a religious excuse to get out of vaccinations. You need a medical reason AND it has to be verified by a doctor.

That seems weird to me. I always thought of California as the place that let you get away with any kind of bullshit, so long as you claimed it was part of your belief system.

Apparently only Mississippi and West Va. have similar laws.

Wait a second. You can be forced to get a vaccine?

I'm not an anti-vaxer, but people should be able to refuse vaccines for any reason.

 

[MomentsofSanity]

Wait a second. You can be forced to get a vaccine?

I'm not an anti-vaxer, but people should be able to refuse vaccines for any reason.

Too much effort to read the link?

 

[IBMer]

Just like the Right has its anti science people the left does as well. Unfortunately its around holistic medicine and gmos.

 

[preCRT]

Wish this was the law in all 50 states.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

Wait a second. You can be forced to get a vaccine?

I'm not an anti-vaxer, but people should be able to refuse vaccines for any reason.

Not if your non polio vaccinated hypothetical kids wanted to attend school with my hypothetical kids.

 

[Iron Woode]

California has had a few outbreaks of illnesses that are easily prevented from vaccination I'm sure that's why they have tightened up.
Oddly enough most Southern conservative states have the most strict vaccination rules & laws.

not just outbreaks. kids have died as a result.

 

[interchange]

Not if your non polio vaccinated hypothetical kids wanted to attend school with my hypothetical kids.

When was the last case of polio contacted in the US?

 

[Fanatical Meat]

When was the last case of polio contacted in the US?

Its happened not often but it can happen.

There was a kid in school who had it, lost one leg to it. While I'm not sure when or where he was exposed he was dealing with it in the 80s.

But I get your point

 

[interchange]

I am not trying to be mean, but it is a point of enormous misinformation even among the medical community. The answer is 1979 by the way. You might want to look up the rates of pertussis instead and also the rates of immunity among adults and the way that infants who die from the illness contract it.

Still quite rare, but it is something that happens regularly that you can do something about. Your kids are much more in danger if you are not vaccinated appropriately for pertussis then they ever have been from anti vacvers for polio.

This is not a generalisable argument, though. Each illness and each vaccine needs to be understood separately.

 

[todpod]

http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/vpd-vac/polio/dis-faqs.htm

 

[interchange]

You could argue the answer is 1999 from that page. Of course, all 162 cases of paralytic polio contacted in the US from 1980 to 1999 came from the vaccine. Whoops!

We use an inactivated vaccine now.

 

[MongGrel]

Redacted, was a bit over the top.

 

[Thebobo]

common sense 1

nutjobs 0

while I dont necessarily disagree its also Big Pharma 1 individual liberty 0.
Its like all these new $$ diseases Sleep Apnea, Diabetes, keep america fat = $$.

/Tin foil hat off

 

[interchange]

Big pharma has a conflict of interest, and they have abused it big time.

And they have zero to do with this conversation.