Nobody's watching the Trump CNN Town Hall?

[sportage]

You know, we do have a third option.

If Donald Trump and maga are so hell bent on regaining power and picking up where they left off on January 6th to totally destroy American democracy, well if thats their plan then I say we might as bloody well return back to British rule.
Let's go back to to having a real King, not a blowhard wannabe. After all, if Trump believes himself to be a king then I'd much rather be ruled by a King Charles than by a dictator Trump.
Someone start a poll. Trump dictatorship or British rule?

You might ask why the 13 colonies broke from British rule in the first place?
Well, because they wanted:

The right to worship as they pleased.
Relief from taxes.
The right to a speedy trial, and fair justice.
And freedom from constant oppression, and cruelty.
Basically, America wanted to be Independent and Free which we will never be should Donald Trump regain his power.

Besides, King Charles and the British throne has much better bling than Donald Trump and his shithole Maralago.
Every googled the history of maralago? It was a shithole and still is, more so now than ever. The FBI had to disinfect themselves before they raided the joint, then again after.

 

[Leeea]

well if thats their plan then I say we might as bloody well return back to British rule.

Get the Canadian's, Australian's, and New Zealander's in on the deal also.


And then, well, for one thing, we definitely could show Queen Victoria how it is done. It would be the good old days all over again, but this time without the stupidity.

 

[Lanyap]

Oddly enough, while I've never liked Trump, I found him engaging in the CNN town hall.
I don't agree with coup idea, and Trump pretty clearly demonstrated that he continually asked foe a peaceful protest. While those ideas won't wash here, it's the way I see it.
I will now get at least five outraged responses for voicing an unacceptable opinion.

@Greenman, you will wake up when I snap my fingers.

Trump only mentioned peacefully once on J6, not continually. Guess how many times he mentioned fight? That’s right, 24 times. You obviously didn’t read the transcript. This is the end of his speech. Can you honestly tell me that he wasn’t telling his people to initiate a coup?

And I bet you never watched any of the J6 hearings?

And we fight. We fight like hell. And if you don't fight like hell, you're not going to have a country anymore.

Our exciting adventures and boldest endeavors have not yet begun. My fellow Americans, for our movement, for our children, and for our beloved country.

And I say this despite all that's happened. The best is yet to come.

So we're going to, we're going to walk down Pennsylvania Avenue. I love Pennsylvania Avenue. And we're going to the Capitol, and we're going to try and give.

The Democrats are hopeless — they never vote for anything. Not even one vote. But we're going to try and give our Republicans, the weak ones because the strong ones don't need any of our help. We're going to try and give them the kind of pride and boldness that they need to take back our country.

So let's walk down Pennsylvania Avenue.

https://www.npr.org/2021/02/10/966396848/read-trumps-jan-6-speech-a-key-part-of-impeachment-trial

 

[MrSquished]

@Greenman, you will wake up when I snap my fingers.

Trump only mentioned peacefully once on J6, not continually. Guess how many times he mentioned fight? That’s right, 24 times. You obviously didn’t read the transcript. This is the end of his speech. Can you honestly tell me that he wasn’t telling his people to initiate a coup?

And I bet you never watched any of the J6 hearings?

https://www.npr.org/2021/02/10/966396848/read-trumps-jan-6-speech-a-key-part-of-impeachment-trial

That guy will never wake up. He is a dumb fuckwagon piece of turd. I'm really not sure why people see anything in that douchebag. You don't post here often, so you have an excuse. There are a couple regulars that see something in Greenman, the stupidity in them is pretty epic level shit.

 

[pmv]

So is Trump still, despite everything, the front-runner for the Republican nomination?

Honestly, in my inexpert opinion, he looks both easier-to-beat and (bizarrely enough) slightly less repulsive a prospect than DeSantis. The latter looks more conciously vicious to me...maybe it's just a matter of familiarity but, to me, Trump seems more a hapless prisoner of his own psychological 'issues' and thus both less dangerous and less morally-culpable than his rival.

https://edition.cnn.com/2023/05/10/politics/donald-trump-polls/index.html

2024 Republican Primary Polls | Morning Consult

Trump is backed by 82% of potential Republican primary voters

morningconsult.com

 

[emperus]

So, Kaitlan Collins used to work for Tucker Carlson's Daily Caller. A very weird hire if that is the case. It's not that she may have been conservative, but that I believe "reporters" for the Daily Caller are performative actors.

WATCH: Kaitlan Collins Once Defended Trump’s Attacks On Press — Including CNN — In Interview With Tucker Carlson!

Kaitlan Collins once defended Trump's attacks on the press and took swipes at CNN — while being interviewed by Tucker Carlson on Fox News!

www.mediaite.com

 

[fskimospy]

So is Trump still, despite everything, the front-runner for the Republican nomination?

Honestly, in my inexpert opinion, he looks both easier-to-beat and (bizarrely enough) slightly less repulsive a prospect than DeSantis. The latter looks more conciously vicious to me...maybe it's just a matter of familiarity but, to me, Trump seems more a hapless prisoner of his own psychological 'issues' and thus both less dangerous and less morally-culpable than his rival.

https://edition.cnn.com/2023/05/10/politics/donald-trump-polls/index.html

2024 Republican Primary Polls | Morning Consult

Trump is backed by 82% of potential Republican primary voters

morningconsult.com

Why exactly is the lifelong criminal that checks every box for psychopathy and tried a coup last time he was in power less dangerous?

 

[pmv]

Why exactly is the lifelong criminal that checks every box for psychopathy and tried a coup last time he was in power less dangerous?

Because he's incompetent and really bad at staging coups. DeSantis seems at least as morally bankrupt but appears to be smarter at it.

 

[fskimospy]

Because he's incompetent and really bad at staging coups. DeSantis seems at least as morally bankrupt but appears to be smarter at it.

He wasn’t that bad at it - he was exactly one person away from success.

So is it your opinion that whoever wins the Republican nomination is going to attempt a coup? We already know with near certainty trump will.

 

[cytg111]

Oddly enough, while I've never liked Trump, I found him engaging in the CNN town hall.
I don't agree with coup idea, and Trump pretty clearly demonstrated that he continually asked foe a peaceful protest. While those ideas won't wash here, it's the way I see it.
I will now get at least five outraged responses for voicing an unacceptable opinion.

And this is why Trump did well in the CNN townhall, he is dusting off the base that propelled him 2015 2016.

Greenman here does not even believe in the "the coup idea".

When his target audience might as well be flat earthers, he is not speaking the language of you and me.

 

[soulcougher73]

I don’t watch Trump ever, nor will give CNN the view and support.

 

[Jaskalas]

He wasn’t that bad at it - he was exactly one person away from success.

So is it your opinion that whoever wins the Republican nomination is going to attempt a coup? We already know with near certainty trump will.

I firmly believe that a future Republican President will be both more evil and more competent than Trump.
Not sure that DeSantis is that guy. His actions in Florida suggest that he certainly wants to be. May not have what it takes though.
But one day, there will be. The "grass roots" of the party wants a military coup against this country. They thirst for someone to end our Democracy for them.

 

[pmv]

He wasn’t that bad at it - he was exactly one person away from success.

So is it your opinion that whoever wins the Republican nomination is going to attempt a coup? We already know with near certainty trump will.

Seems to me the Republican Party now represents the ongoing trend of a large part of the country to reject democracy. That trend has been present in the US since its founding, but it seems to be getting more intense. I cant see it as just being about Trump as an individual (I mean, for one thing the trend is also a global one).

Furthermore, on a purely personal, moral level, I actually find DeSantis more repellent than Trump, because Trump is so transparently psychologically dysfunctional its hard to truly ascribe moral agency to him.

 

[zinfamous]

So, Kaitlan Collins used to work for Tucker Carlson's Daily Caller. A very weird hire if that is the case. It's not that she may have been conservative, but that I believe "reporters" for the Daily Caller are performative actors.

WATCH: Kaitlan Collins Once Defended Trump’s Attacks On Press — Including CNN — In Interview With Tucker Carlson!

Kaitlan Collins once defended Trump's attacks on the press and took swipes at CNN — while being interviewed by Tucker Carlson on Fox News!

www.mediaite.com

CNN is now owned by a raging Trump supporter. So, all the changes over the last year at CNN make sense. The goal here is to destroy all sense of the media, and Republicans won't stop until the only news we have access to is filtered through approved GOP talking points.

 

[cytg111]

Yup. Big money wants to rule, not represent.

 

[MrSquished]

He wasn’t that bad at it - he was exactly one person away from success.

So is it your opinion that whoever wins the Republican nomination is going to attempt a coup? We already know with near certainty trump will.

Yes, that is EXACTLY RIGHT!

At this point no Republican can win the nomination without being horrible and corrupt enough to appeal to the huge fucked up nasty disgusting base that makes up their party. So no, no rational, reasonable or sane Republican can win the nomination. That is a fact of life right now.

So yes, any Republican that can win the nomination is essentially guaranteed to not give a fuck about our institutions or rights, because if they aren't that horrible, they can't win the nomination in the first place. This is a 100% fact.

I mean right now the other front-runner for the GQP is DeSantis, and he's made it clear that he gives zero shits about any of our institutions, but for some reason, you think he'd respect democracy. That's your problem though, and we need to move on from that foolish thinking.

 

[pmv]

I don't know if DeSantis will attempt an outright coup. Probably he'll just continue a vicious assault on the most vulnerable in society, while continuing to eat away at democracy at the margins as much as possible, making it that much easier and more likely that one of his successors _will_ finally finish the job. Either way he'll probably be more effective at it than the orange clown.

I mean, Trump has obvious major 'issues'. Had he not been born rich, he'd probably have had to seek help for those issues long before now. If he were poor (or black) he'd likely be in prison, if middle-class he'd possibly have ended up in a less punitive kind of institution somewhere.

He's arguably a real victim of 'afluenza' in that he's been spared the need to face up to his serious psychological problems for his entire life - something which, weirdly enough, isn't necessarily a privilege. That, for me, makes him a tiny bit harder to morally condemn than DeSantis or some of the others. But that's just a reaction on a personal level, not a political point.

I don't want to see either in the Whitehouse. I'm not a huge fan of Biden, but, unlike Hilary, he did at least deliver in terms of beating Trump, so I'd give him credit for that.

 

[cytg111]

I am not sure DeSantis got the balls either. He comes off as too much of a chicken shit to me to try that. That being said even contemplating that 1 to 5 is 1 too much. Republicans have spent a huge amount of energy setting up this stolen election scheme and since first rehearsal they’ve probably ironed out the bugs by now. I dont know dude, its almost like GQP’ers cant be trusted with something as valuable as democracy.

 

[HardWarrior]

Why?

 

[HardWarrior]

The wife and I were just discussing why Trump is so popular. He's a fat-mouthed, ego-driven, intellectually-deficient old fool that was a democrat up until the second he decided to run for the WH. We both voted for him in spite of his obvious flaws, because he seemed to understand what democrat policy on the border had, and would do to the US. 6-years later and I still feel stupid for voting for him every time he opens his tiny mouth.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

The wife and I were just discussing why Trump is so popular. He's a fat-mouthed, ego-driven, intellectually-deficient old fool that was a democrat up until the second he decided to run for the WH. We both voted for him in spite of his obvious flaws, because he seemed to understand what democrat policy on the border had, and would do to the US. 6-years later and I still feel stupid for voting for him every time he opens his tiny mouth.

That’s a very good summary

 

[eelw]

The wife and I were just discussing why Trump is so popular. He's a fat-mouthed, ego-driven, intellectually-deficient old fool that was a democrat up until the second he decided to run for the WH. We both voted for him in spite of his obvious flaws, because he seemed to understand what democrat policy on the border had, and would do to the US. 6-years later and I still feel stupid for voting for him every time he opens his tiny mouth.

Well yes you should feel stupid for giving him a shot in 2016. But important thing is no longer stupid in continuing to support him

 

[VashHT]

Still don't understand the whole border crisis thing, like people coming here desperate for a new life are going to ruin the country somehow? I guess people buy into the whole "they're sending rapists and murderers" line?

 

[Greenman]

And this is why Trump did well in the CNN townhall, he is dusting off the base that propelled him 2015 2016.

Greenman here does not even believe in the "the coup idea".

When his target audience might as well be flat earthers, he is not speaking the language of you and me.

Look up COUP D'ÉTAT.
The reality is that CNN got it's biggest audience in years, and Trump got a bounce in the polls. He walked out of that town hall in better shape than when he walked in.

 

[Pens1566]

Still don't understand the whole border crisis thing, like people coming here desperate for a new life are going to ruin the country somehow? I guess people buy into the whole "they're sending rapists and murderers" line?

It's because they're brown. Period.

If all these whining bitches actually cared about immigration they'd first look at people overstaying their visas. Because that's the overwhelming majority of "illegal immigrants".