if its indoors, sleeping gas
Regular guns, but use M4s chambered in 5.45x39 or some other cartridge not affiliated with US forces. That's how actual "black ops" are run. You don't carry non-lethal weaponry when your enemies are certainly carrying lethal weaponry. What's worse, the media realizing that someone killed someone important, along with a bunch of their guards, or a couple dead US commandos in a foreign country?
If you had to execute a black ops task, and there was a reasonable risk of confrontation but leaving bodies behind was absolutely intolerable, what non-lethal weapon would be your number one choice for temporarily disabling hostiles?
I'm thinking rubber bullets would be the best choice, because I've heard that tasers can actually kill people. But then again, a taser would be more stealthy. I don't know if they have rubber bullets for sidearms.
Regular guns, but use M4s chambered in 5.45x39 or some other cartridge not affiliated with US forces. That's how actual "black ops" are run. You don't carry non-lethal weaponry when your enemies are certainly carrying lethal weaponry. What's worse, the media realizing that someone killed someone important, along with a bunch of their guards, or a couple dead US commandos in a foreign country?
Taser, or tranquilizers as suggested.
Or just hire ninjas to put the people into a vehicle and transport them alive. Because they're ninjas, they'll never actually be seen during this process. The people will just suddenly find themselves in the back of a big van and have no clue what just happened.
That's the whole point you asshat. If you're running black ops in a foreign nation with high-level targets, and the press gets word of a diplpmat killing the publicity could ruin the whole operation, blow peoples covers, basically make everything go south.
If it was a snatch-and-grab type operation, I'm thinking rock salt slugs in a 12 gauge shotgun would be good. But if you had to do some espionage you wouldn't want to be carrying a shotgun around, so it has to be a sidearm.
I can see you've thought this through Mr. Call of Duty.
Pay off someone to hand them over, and then start a rumor that they were stolen.janas19 said:Ok, thats probably how it generally runs in special forces, but I guess I meant "black ops" more in terms of CIA. For example, if there had to be a CIA team posing as the enemy to create a political reason to go to war, but at the same time keeping casualties to an absolute minimum. For example, a "Body of Proof" type cover-up. Say a team of CIA agents poses as the Iranian special commandos Quds and infiltrates a target in Israel in order to steal classified documents and create a provovation for war. It sounds ridiculous but its actually very plausible. Obviously, the agents want to get the documents but they actually dont want to kill people. So thats why Im wondering what non-lethal weapon they would select for this type of mission.
I'm a bit surprised no one has said "phasers on stun". ATOT is slipping.
The problem with sleeping gas is getting the dose right. Too much and you could easily kill your seriously injure your target.
Ok, thats probably how it generally runs in special forces, but I guess I meant "black ops" more in terms of CIA. For example, if there had to be a CIA team posing as the enemy to create a political reason to go to war, but at the same time keeping casualties to an absolute minimum. For example, a "Body of Proof" type cover-up. Say a team of CIA agents poses as the Iranian special commandos Quds and infiltrates a target in Israel in order to steal classified documents and create a provovation for war. It sounds ridiculous but its actually very plausible. Obviously, the agents want to get the documents but they actually dont want to kill people. So thats why Im wondering what non-lethal weapon they would select for this type of mission.
Without getting into what I consider the utter implausibility of your scenario, did you consider that hitting someone with a non-lethal weapon is going to leave just as much evidence as a body? Except now the body might be able to remember vital details leading up to being incapacitated.
Like the Russians did a few years back, when they accidentally killed 129 of the hostages they were trying to rescue.
Well, trying to run a mission like Operation Eagle Claw also seems implausible, but they did that too didn't they?
Not the 12 gauge ones. It cant even dent a piece of cardboard
Not the 12 gauge ones. It cant even dent a piece of cardboard
No. I don't even know what that is.
You referenced the audacity of an entirely failed operation, Operation Eagle Claw.
If anything, you should look at the Osama Bin Laden raid. It violated the sovereignty of a nuclear armed nation with which are relations are already precarious. Yet still, we used real guns, left bodies AND a helicopter behind.