The Rome-based institute has examined medical records of about 18% of the country’s coronavirus fatalities, finding that just three victims, or 0.8% of the total, had no previous pathology. Almost half of the victims suffered from at least three prior illnesses and about a fourth had either one or two previous conditions.
More than 75% had high blood pressure, about 35% had diabetes and a third suffered from heart disease.
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The average age of those who’ve died from the virus in Italy is 79.5. As of March 17, 17 people under 50 had died from the disease. All of Italy’s victims under 40 have been males with serious existing medical conditions.
Don't hang your hat on that even. I'm not saying it isn't true but I've been hearing stories of seemingly very healthy (and young) people having very serious outcomes and death from this, even when they seemed to be doing well. Maybe one day doing fine, the next in the ICU...Well this is the unknown. There are people who have gooten COVID-19 and had very minimal symptoms. Then, there are many others who got COVID-19 and got extremely sick, and died.
There are many factors at play here. It just depends on how "healthy" the person is.
My mom had a habit of saving some kinds of stuff including used plastic bags. I haven't shaken saving plastic bags to some extent, but just yesterday I was glad for the fact. I know that not a one of those is contaminated with SARS-CoV-2!Better start hoarding gold, diamonds, jewelry, bottle caps...etc.
I passed on peroxide at Costco, they were out of iso alcohol, but I have a fair amount, but I'm barely using any because I don't think there's a contamination issue here. Just use it to be sure if wondering. Soap and water! Actually, I'm using that borax stuff you used to find in dispensers in public bathrooms. I like the grainy texture, seems to be better at removing tough dirt, especially oil based. I imagine it's murder on viruses.10 min contact bleach
2 min vinegar
1 peroxide.
Soap and water...instantenious
Maybe not but it sounds good.
I've been prepping for the big one (i.e. earthquake) for decades, so that helped for this. I wasn't ignorant of the considerable possibility of a very serious pandemic (watched Contagion in 2012), keep abreast of the news (bird flu, H1N1), but extrapolating pandemic fallout to stocking supplies wasn't something I thought about. My N95's were acquired to deal with the bad air we've suffered so much from the wild fires in CA the last 2-3 years. I did some augmentation of my supplies leading up to this inflection point, i.e. over the last month or two. Enough? Not really, but maybe close. I'll probably make it, hopefully without undue stress. The stupid people around are the worst danger, they are indeed a big part of the problems we're facing now. This is probably as close as we're going to see of the zombie apocalypse in real life.I'll definitely be increasing the size of my home inventory, for sure. Probably not to prepper levels, but I don't want to be stuck high & dry the next time the next global or local issue (insert war/pandemic/natural disaster/etc.) comes around.
So instead of locking up the old, weak and infirm for their own sake, you prefer everyone be locked up like in China or Italy? Does that make sense to you? You must also be one of those who advocate that everyone be given equal time for questioning before boarding a plane instead of focusing on the usual suspects. What we need at a time like this is some common sense, not overreacting. The virus is culling the herd. It's nature doing its thing.
60 million people were infected and 13,000 died in the H1N1 pandemic of 2009/2010. Below is a video of the same "expert" that is now telling us to shelter in place, that is orchestrating the ruination of the best economy we've ever had. His advice then? Don't send your kids to school if they're sick and don't go to work if you're sick. No mention of closing bars and restaurants.Bunch of BS. People determined to portray this as nothing but hysteria, in other words, people who are uninformed.
There was some discussion a couple weeks ago that the outbreak in Iran involved a different strain of the virus.Virus has possibly mutated.
Chinese scientists identify two strains of the coronavirus, indicating it's already mutated at least once
Researchers in China have found that two different types of the new coronavirus could be causing infections worldwide.www.cnbc.com
FUCK Please be fake news...
Lol? Exercise has nothing to do with your immune system, at all. For someone touting their health, you know remarkably little about the human body.For someone like me with an exercise regiment like that, this virus is nothing. My immune system probably didn't notice it.
Fuck off. H1N1 was only transmissible while symptomatic. This isn't a fucking deep state conspiracy you dolt.60 million people were infected and 13,000 died in the H1N1 pandemic of 2009/2010. Below is a video of the same "expert" that is now telling us to shelter in place, that is orchestrating the ruination of the best economy we've ever had. His advice then? Don't send your kids to school if they're sick and don't go to work if you're sick. No mention of closing bars and restaurants.
I'd give details of the love letter Dr. Fauci wrote to Hillary in 2003 but this is a non-political thread.
Sometimes the very people you trust have an agenda. Question everything.
60 million people were infected and 13,000 died in the H1N1 pandemic of 2009/2010. Below is a video of the same "expert" that is now telling us to shelter in place, that is orchestrating the ruination of the best economy we've ever had. His advice then? Don't send your kids to school if they're sick and don't go to work if you're sick. No mention of closing bars and restaurants.
I'd give details of the love letter Dr. Fauci wrote to Hillary in 2003 but this is a non-political thread.
Sometimes the very people you trust have an agenda. Question everything.
Inform yourself. Not firing Dr. Fauci is the best thing Trump has done, I'm sure he was thinking about it but people no doubt restrained him. What he should have done is hire a covid-19 czar to manage the crisis, but he's too dimwitted and self-important to admit he's out of his class. Appointing Pence was obviously solely to plug his November ticket. Pence is totally unqualified in the public health arena. He fucked up on HIV in Indiana big time. Trump has one concern, everything else is posturing: he wants to be reelected, then he will keep considering himself a winner and the only thing he wants to see is his face in the mirror when he's adjusting his tie the day after he wins reelection. I hope to God that doesn't happen.60 million people were infected and 13,000 died in the H1N1 pandemic of 2009/2010. Below is a video of the same "expert" that is now telling us to shelter in place, that is orchestrating the ruination of the best economy we've ever had. His advice then? Don't send your kids to school if they're sick and don't go to work if you're sick. No mention of closing bars and restaurants.
I'd give details of the love letter Dr. Fauci wrote to Hillary in 2003 but this is a non-political thread.
Sometimes the very people you trust have an agenda. Question everything.
For someone like me with an exercise regiment like that, this virus is nothing. My immune system probably didn't notice it.
Oh Lord, such a macho man!
Yeah, we've been hearing about it for a while, but it could be a good thing if it had a reassortment with an endemic coronavirus (common cold). This line confuses me though:Virus has possibly mutated.
Chinese scientists identify two strains of the coronavirus, indicating it's already mutated at least once
Researchers in China have found that two different types of the new coronavirus could be causing infections worldwide.www.cnbc.com
FUCK Please be fake news...
All of Italy’s victims under 40 have been males with serious existing medical conditions.
Chronic inflammation takes a long time to show issues. We don't see lung cancers in people after only a year of smoking. It'll take time for data to come out, given that vaping is relatively new. It's just naive to think that vaping would have no effect, given what we know about biology, cigarettes, and pollution.If lung inflammation from vaping were widespread then the news wouldn't be so recent (late 2019) with such cautionary wording ("may lead to some"). I'll wait and see if it causes complications with COVID-19 but there is no reason to assume it's likely.
He wasn't talking about a virus as deadly as this one so of course he had different recommendations. Back then he out-right said that we can't avoid each other for an entire season... but now we have to for the sake of all the vulnerable and the collateral people who will die as a result of the overwhelmed healthcare services.60 million people were infected and 13,000 died in the H1N1 pandemic of 2009/2010. Below is a video of the same "expert" that is now telling us to shelter in place, that is orchestrating the ruination of the best economy we've ever had. His advice then? Don't send your kids to school if they're sick and don't go to work if you're sick. No mention of closing bars and restaurants.
I'd give details of the love letter Dr. Fauci wrote to Hillary in 2003 but this is a non-political thread.
Sometimes the very people you trust have an agenda. Question everything.
Asymptomatic carriers are common with most flus too so that's not a valid distinguishment.Fuck off. H1N1 was only transmissible while symptomatic. This isn't a fucking deep state conspiracy you dolt.
Chronic inflammation takes a long time to show issues. We don't see lung cancers in people after only a year of smoking. It'll take time for data to come out, given that vaping is relatively new. It's just naive to think that vaping would have no effect, given what we know about biology, cigarettes, and pollution.
I've been prepping for the big one (i.e. earthquake) for decades, so that helped for this. I wasn't ignorant of the considerable possibility of a very serious pandemic (watched Contagion in 2012), keep abreast of the news (bird flu, H1N1), but extrapolating pandemic fallout to stocking supplies wasn't something I thought about. My N95's were acquired to deal with the bad air we've suffered so much from the wild fires in CA the last 2-3 years. I did some augmentation of my supplies leading up to this inflection point, i.e. over the last month or two. Enough? Not really, but maybe close. I'll probably make it, hopefully without undue stress. The stupid people around are the worst danger, they are indeed a big part of the problems we're facing now. This is probably as close as we're going to see of the zombie apocalypse in real life.