NON_POLITICAL China Coronavirus THREAD

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Muse

Lifer
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I sure hope so, and I sure hope my coworkers are taking it seriously and not going out, because I'm stuck working with them. I head back to work tomorrow.

Statistically we're probably fine here as there's only been one case so far, but given that person came from out of town on a plane, everybody else on that plane probably got it too and just have not been officially diagnosed yet.
No, not everybody but maybe a few, figure.
 

Muse

Lifer
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i loaded up a spray bottle with 70% alcohol and spray it all over things lol
Myself, I'm generally in no hurry. If it's delivered to me, I'll set it aside for a while, handle it when I figure it's safe.
 

ponyo

Lifer
Feb 14, 2002
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DigDog, your man on the street from Argentina, reports that
the Argentinian president is considering issuing a decree of Martial Law for the next few weeks. All flight to and out of Argentina will be cancelled.

fuck. my. life.

breaching quarantine can lead to arrest and detention to up to TWO FUCKEN YEARS. https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020...tine-argentina-jail-time-200318160931683.html

jesus all i wanted was some H&B. i don't want to spend the rest of my life in Argentina.
Things have escalated quick since you went to Argentina. Lot of airlines have cancelled all international flights so you might have hard time finding a flight out. If I was in your situation, I would book the first flight out ASAP no matter the cost. If not, just make best of the situation and find/pay for female companionship. You need some kind of human contact.

Stay safe and healthy, my friend.
 
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pmv

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I thought the point was not how long it survived on cardboard, but how easily it could then get from the cardboard to you? It sinks into the cardboard, or something like that, and doesn't easily transfer to you.

On the other hand - if the delivery guy rings your doorbell and asks you to sign for the delivery as he stands there? Isn't that more where the risk of contagion is?
 

spacejamz

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yeah, the US is screwed....pretty sad when the mayor of Miami has to order the marinas and boat ramps closed this morning because of the partying last night...now New York City (which is the current epicenter of the US) has to use the police to make sure there are no large park gatherings...

that two or three week quarantine is probably gonna last two or three months...
 
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balloonshark

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I thought the point was not how long it survived on cardboard, but how easily it could then get from the cardboard to you? It sinks into the cardboard, or something like that, and doesn't easily transfer to you.

On the other hand - if the delivery guy rings your doorbell and asks you to sign for the delivery as he stands there? Isn't that more where the risk of contagion is?
From the UPS site.

In the interest of employee and customer safety, UPS’s Signature Required guidelines are temporarily being adjusted such that consignees will no longer need to sign for UPS Signature Required deliveries. Despite this adjusted process the driver will still need to make contact with the consignee. The consignee must, at the time of delivery, acknowledge that UPS is making a delivery and, if applicable, show government issued photo ID.

fed email:

We want to do our part to help prevent the spread of COVID-19 in our communities.

That’s why effective immediately, we won’t require you to physically sign for most deliveries made in the U.S. It’s just another way we’re focused on Safety Above All - now, and always.

Visit our COVID-19 customer site for more details and to learn more about how FedEx is responding as this situation evolves.

USPS:

To reduce health risks, we also are temporarily modifying customer signature capture procedures. While maintaining a safe, appropriate distance, employees will request the customer’s first initial and last name so that the employee can enter the information on the electronic screen or hard copy items such as return receipts, PS Forms 3811 and 3829. For increased safety, employees will politely ask the customer to step back a safe distance or close the screen door/door so that they may leave the item in the mail receptacle or appropriate location by the customer door.
 

Muse

Lifer
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or do both!
I have isopropyl, but don't want to waste it spraying packages. I'll just wait. It's foolproof if you wait long enough. Alcohol, how can you be sure it's disinfected your package? I've seen varying figures, how long it takes.

Also, I don't trust the figures I'm seeing. How can you be sure they're right?

It's all a gamble, "life holds no guarantees," I figure I may well get this, just hope I'm vaccinated first or they have anti virals that work or that we're well on the other side of the bell curve so I can get good medical attention if I need it. Meantime, I hope to enjoy being healthy! Yes, and do my part in not passing it on to others.
 

iCyborg

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It's bad you guys, I just did a quick calculation, and using the same growth rate from the last 2 weeks or so, in about 3-3.5 months there will be 900 billion total coronavirus cases! Earth population is only around 8 billion, so as you can imagine, even a 1% death rate would be quite devastating.
I can check the math, but it's just simple (unconstrained) exponential growth, what could be wrong about that...
 

randay

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It's bad you guys, I just did a quick calculation, and using the same growth rate from the last 2 weeks or so, in about 3-3.5 months there will be 900 billion total coronavirus cases! Earth population is only around 8 billion, so as you can imagine, even a 1% death rate would be quite devastating.
I can check the math, but it's just simple (unconstrained) exponential growth, what could be wrong about that...
I just ran the numbers and 1% of 900 billion is nearly 8 billion so your math checks out. RIP in peace everybody!
 

Kaido

Elite Member & Kitchen Overlord
Feb 14, 2004
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Horrible news out of Italy:




“There are a lot of young people in our Intensive Care Units (ICUs) – our youngest is a 38-year-old who had had no comorbidities (underlying health problems).

“A lot of patients need help with breathing but there are not enough ventilators.

“They’ve told us that starting from now we’ll have to choose who to intubate – priority will go to the young or those without comorbidities.

“At Niguarda, the other big hospital in Milan, they are not intubating anyone over 60, which is really, really young.”

She added: “This virus is so infectious that the only way to avoid a ‘massacre’ is to have the least number possible getting infected over the longest possible timescale.

“Right now, if we get 10,000 people in Italy in need of ventilators – when we only have 3,000 in the country – 7,000 people will die.

“A child with no symptoms will go to visit its grandparents, and basically kill them. So it’s essential to avoid contact between them”.

 

CZroe

Lifer
Jun 24, 2001
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Rand Paul has it now:

Supposedly asymptomatic. Only tested out of caution because of his travels.
 

jpiniero

Lifer
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Does seem like the only real solution is to get everyone tested, esp a test to see if they had it in the past. That may not be feasible to test everyone.
 

DrMrLordX

Lifer
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You don't want your appendix to burst during the peak. And forget about getting quick care if you have a stroke

It's a good time to stay away from doctors and hospitals. If there is going to be widespread testing, it has to be something that will work while maintaining relative isolation. Around here, you still have to work with a primary healthcare provider to get tested. In other words, doctor or hospital. Not a good situation.
 

local

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Local shelter in places orders just started coming in, now I will be travelling even more than before. YAY!
 

Muse

Lifer
Jul 11, 2001
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See, that's one reason I'm not leaving the house. My neighbor is deep in epidemiology, his mom was/is (?) a doctor and he tells me she had a deep interest in epidemiology. He told me confidently a week ago that in two weeks we'd be Italy. I figure if I need a ventilator, I'm likely a dead man. They'd give mine to somebody else and shut the door.
 

Artorias

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Feb 8, 2014
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Does seem like the only real solution is to get everyone tested, esp a test to see if they had it in the past. That may not be feasible to test everyone.

Just curious how do doctors find out if you had the virus? Any doctors in the house that can answer that?
 
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