There is a whole branch of math around that. Start with the Probability Density Function: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Probability_density_functionUntil someone comes up with something better than an R0 value, we're gonna use that.
Some cases may be incidental. That is, someone gets tested at a hospital but the reason they were there was for some other reason. Immunocompromised are in a state of greater danger imo.Not sure what else one can conclude from that graph in the second link other than Omicron is putting people in hospital _faster_ than delta did.
But I guess there's a significant difference between being 'hospitalised' and ending up in ICU or on a ventilator. Perhaps omicron puts more people in hospital but they don't get to the point of needing intensive care?
I know right. The virus simply is a step of ahead of mankind every time. By the time we're logging activities, it's two weeks after the infectious activity has been done.Pretty good game so far tonight BUT "analytics" as used in the NFL today is just freaking stupid.
Unless you factor in the value of losing what's at risk with your moronic call to go for it on 4th down in your own end IN THE FIRST QUARTER or pass on a chip-shot FG FOR THE LEAD because "herp-derp analytics" you're doing it wrong.
This article is pretty much my sentiment at this point.
EDITORIAL: It's time for Canadians to just say no
Governments across Canada have announced the return of various COVID-19 restrictions, this time to fight what appears to be the more transmissible Omicron variant.torontosun.com
Until more people rise up though, this is just going to keep going.
So the folks getting "big money" should protect the hospitals by not letting in Covid patients?But the days of telling regular Canadians that it is somehow their responsibility to put their lives on pause — and suffer the very real harms that come with it — to protect the hospitals are over.
A sizeable percentage of our tax dollars go to the Canadian health-care system. There are people paid big money to manage the system. It’s their job to protect the hospitals, not everyone else’s.
Ultimately, they found that the viral load for the first positive test was 1,260 times higher for Delta compared with the variant in the initial wave of infections -- hence, the "1,000 times" higher estimate going around social and other media.
People with cold symptoms in London (where Covid was spreading rapidly) are "far more likely" to have Covid than a cold.[40]
I don't think we have granular data on that yet, but that's an interesting chart. I think the takeaway is that Omicron could be, let's conjecture, 20% less virulent that Delta. However, the UK currently has roughly double the transmission it had a month or two ago (when it was already bad). Thus, hospitalizations are trending up.Not sure what else one can conclude from that graph in the second link other than Omicron is putting people in hospital _faster_ than delta did.
But I guess there's a significant difference between being 'hospitalised' and ending up in ICU or on a ventilator. Perhaps omicron puts more people in hospital but they don't get to the point of needing intensive care?
I don't think we have granular data on that yet, but that's an interesting chart. I think the takeaway is that Omicron could be, let's conjecture, 20% less virulent that Delta. However, the UK currently has roughly double the transmission it had a month or two ago (when it was already bad). Thus, hospitalizations are trending up.
Very strong 'FEB2020' energy. Those look like the charts of COVID vs Flu from back then.
nah they want it both ways, and when someone they know get's denied treatment because covid patients are clogging up the system they'll be all pikachu surpirsed face 'why is this happening!'So the folks getting "big money" should protect the hospitals by not letting in Covid patients?
So the folks getting "big money" should protect the hospitals by not letting in Covid patients?
The Omicron coronavirus variant could be just as severe as the Delta strain, according to early findings from researchers at Imperial College London, in a study which also highlighted the elevated risk of reinfection posed by the new variant and the need for booster shots to combat it.
“The study finds no evidence of Omicron having lower severity than Delta, judged by either the proportion of people testing positive who report symptoms, or by the proportion of cases seeking hospital care after infection,” said the research team, led by Professor Neil Ferguson, an infectious disease modeller and government science adviser.
However, they cautioned that hospitalisation data “remains very limited at this time”. The study said data suggested “at most limited changes in severity compared with Delta”.
The early findings could dash the hopes of some experts that a change in the virulence of the new variant would ease the pressure on health systems despite Omicron’s high levels of infectiousness.
Professor Azra Ghani, an epidemiologist at Imperial College London and one of the study’s authors, stressed the “uncertainty” surrounding whether or not Omicron is less severe than previous strains.
“Whilst it may take several weeks to fully understand this, governments will need to put in place plans now to mitigate any potential impact,” she said, adding that the results demonstrated “the importance of delivering booster doses as part of the wider public health response”.
Hospitals are not necessarily limited by space, but by staffing, and healthcare practitioners have been going nonstop for the last 18 months. Now, many are experiencing significant burnout. Opening a spigot of money won't suddenly make nurses, doctors, and other staff appear out of the blue. You also can't just dump responsibility onto them and say fuck all other precautions. People should be taking some personal responsibility to try and not get sick, but since some think that responsibility is only for other people, society has started to use some stocks to keep the chuckleheads in line.Or they could increase capacity so that covid patients are not taking up all the beds. The money that went into the new passport system could have gone towards hospitals instead. The maintenance on that system (server infrastructure etc) is going to be an ongoing cost too, that can go towards hospitals instead. That and LTC homes, those are greatly underfunded and those are the most vulnerable people.
The main issue is that we don't have a lot of data on it yet. The bulk of the data is from South Africa where it was first discovered and first became large in case numbers. But, in South Africa, most people with Omicron have already had Covid once if not twice. Thus, their immune system is already primed for Covid and the weakest people have already died.I still think there's very llittle basis for the constant claims that "Omicron is mild"
Hospitals are not necessarily limited by space, but by staffing, and healthcare practitioners have been going nonstop for the last 18 months. Now, many are experiencing significant burnout. Opening a spigot of money won't suddenly make nurses, doctors, and other staff appear out of the blue. You also can't just dump responsibility onto them and say fuck all other precautions. People should be taking some personal responsibility to try and not get sick, but since some think that responsibility is only for other people, society has started to use some stocks to keep the chuckleheads in line.
Last I checked, heart attacks are not contagious and management of heart disease does not involve excessive people in ICUs. Heart disease is a problem, but it isn't the most pressing issue currently facing public health.If we really want to try to tackle a pandemic, we should tackle coronary heart disease. That is the leading cause of death and it's mostly preventable through better dieting and exercise but it's rare you hear TV doctors talking about that
It replicates 70 times faster in an infected persons body than Delta does. That could be part of the reason for it's faster spread (NOT 70 times higher), as viral accumulation in the nasal-pharynx hits high levels faster. Not sure if there is data about total viral load compared to Delta. Anyways, let's not panic. Panic is useless a best and harmful at worst. I just hope this lights a fire under people's butts to get vaccinated. From my recent visit to the health department for my booster - it was mobbed, which I consider a good thing.Omicron is said to be 70x as contagious as Delta!! So, is Omicron more contagious than, say, measles?
Just watching TV news I hear the alarm to get boosted more and more the last few days. I'm sure it's reaching a lot of people. Fauci was saying the situation looks dire if unvaxxed people engage in risky behavior this winter, and for omicron that just means indoors with unvaxxed (even unboosted) without social distancing and a whole lot of ventilation. The get boosted light is flashing now! The next 2-3 weeks could well turn into the worst onslaught on medical resources we've seen.It replicates 70 times faster in an infected persons body than Delta does. That could be part of the reason for it's faster spread (NOT 70 times higher), as viral accumulation in the nasal-pharynx hits high levels faster. Not sure if there is data about total viral load compared to Delta. Anyways, let's not panic. Panic is useless a best and harmful at worst. I just hope this lights a fire under people's butts to get vaccinated. From my recent visit to the health department for my booster - it was mobbed, which I consider a good thing.