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Torn Mind

Lifer
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Boosters will soon be needed to be considered fully vaccinated.


Will wait to see what my company does but I assume they'll force it. Deadline is February and everyone who is not fully vaccinated is fired. They originally were asking unvaccinated to test regularly (even if working from home) but changed to just outright firing now. They seem eager to get everyone back in the office so new variant or not I think by February we'll be coming back to the office full time.
After Omicron, it’s going to be far more about the money than actual health, although it’s always been about about the money to some degree.
 
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Captante

Lifer
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Boosters will soon be needed to be considered fully vaccinated.


Will wait to see what my company does but I assume they'll force it. Deadline is February and everyone who is not fully vaccinated is fired. They originally were asking unvaccinated to test regularly (even if working from home) but changed to just outright firing now. They seem eager to get everyone back in the office so new variant or not I think by February we'll be coming back to the office full time.


Even Ted Cruz was smart enough to get HIMSELF vaccinated (including getting a booster) regardless of what he claims in public .... just sayin.

 

MrSquished

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Last I checked, heart attacks are not contagious and management of heart disease does not involve excessive people in ICUs. Heart disease is a problem, but it isn't the most pressing issue currently facing public health.
Exactly. But it's standard anti vaccine mandate talking points
 

Artorias

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It replicates 70 times faster in an infected persons body than Delta does. That could be part of the reason for it's faster spread (NOT 70 times higher), as viral accumulation in the nasal-pharynx hits high levels faster. Not sure if there is data about total viral load compared to Delta. Anyways, let's not panic. Panic is useless a best and harmful at worst. I just hope this lights a fire under people's butts to get vaccinated. From my recent visit to the health department for my booster - it was mobbed, which I consider a good thing.

Covid can just fuck right off.
 

kn51

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Wife is WFH doing diagnostic imagery. Yesterday she showed me a lung screening of a 49 yo woman with a severe case of covid. Been in the hospital since November. Now I'm no expert nor a radiologist, but anyone would get the gist real quick what a pair of screwed up lungs look like. Imagine around 95% of them looking black on the scan.

Combined with that, local Walmart totally closed yesterday and all day today to disinfect the store. That's gotta be a financial hit on one of the busiest shopping days of the year and I can't imagine how bad the circumstances were for the kings of capitalism to close a store.
 
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Muse

Lifer
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Eventually it will evolve to compel its hosts to vote Republican (or to have warm fuzzy feelings about Jacob Rees Mogg). The Darwinian logic points in that direction.
Actually it was genetically engineered by liberals to infect mainly Republicans. The evidence is irrefutable.
 

Torn Mind

Lifer
Nov 25, 2012
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Not firing a bunch of nurses would help the staff issues, but also need to hire more, as they have always been understaffed to begin with. And yeah burnout is a serious issue, even more so now. They are running hospitals to the breaking point and putting effort and money into all the wrong places. Even pre pandemic this was a big problem. With all the taxes we pay there is more than enough money for it. No idea what even happens with the money, and even the government can't account for it half the time.

If we really want to try to tackle a pandemic, we should tackle coronary heart disease. That is the leading cause of death and it's mostly preventable through better dieting and exercise but it's rare you hear TV doctors talking about that.
The actual better diet is still met with fear, uncertainty, and doubt because that piece of shit Ancel Keyes' message appeals to intuition very well(ZOMG don’t eat fat or get fat is not quite right) Low carb diets will not be in vogue until proteins and fats that are not from fast food restaurants are vindicated.

Furthermore, because weight is such a common symptom when Westerns eat unhealthy, it becomes are red herring target of health, leading people to focus solely on weight and appearance at the expense of micronutrients. The vegan movement is also a scourge by causing people to avoid good food outright instead of simply objecting to eating the worst-produced versions of those foods(like Kraft cheese and crappy cheap eggs that taste and smell like garbage).

Heart disease is a pandemic of profit and/or ignorance, and a bunch of food blue pillers who are doing the opposite of what they should be doing.

Where COVID ties into this is that the chronic conditions and damage caused by bad diet is make what is chronically damaging yet asymptomatic during an infection manifest as acute damage and even death; the strain on the medical system would not be as severe if diabetics and obese people are not prevalent as they are, and there is also an enormous population of "asymptomatically ill" people with prediabetes and/or vitamin deficiencies.

Diabetics and obese people did not come out of nowhere; food guidelines helped add a swath of unhealthy people by making them think they were eating healthy. Plus the foods that make one diabetic(simple carbohydrates whether they are combined with fat are not) physically makes people want to eat even more simple carbohydrates.
 

pmv

Lifer
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The actual better diet is still met with fear, uncertainty, and doubt because that piece of shit Ancel Keyes' message appeals to intuition very well(ZOMG don’t eat fat or get fat is not quite right) Low carb diets will not be in vogue until proteins and fats that are not from fast food restaurants are vindicated.

Furthermore, because weight is such a common symptom when Westerns eat unhealthy, it becomes are red herring target of health, leading people to focus solely on weight and appearance at the expense of micronutrients. The vegan movement is also a scourge by causing people to avoid good food outright instead of simply objecting to eating the worst-produced versions of those foods(like Kraft cheese and crappy cheap eggs that taste and smell like garbage).

Heart disease is a pandemic of profit and/or ignorance, and a bunch of food blue pillers who are doing the opposite of what they should be doing.

Where COVID ties into this is that the chronic conditions and damage caused by bad diet is make what is chronically damaging yet asymptomatic during an infection manifest as acute damage and even death; the strain on the medical system would not be as severe if diabetics and obese people are not prevalent as they are, and there is also an enormous population of "asymptomatically ill" people with prediabetes and/or vitamin deficiencies.

Diabetics and obese people did not come out of nowhere; food guidelines helped add a swath of unhealthy people by making them think they were eating healthy. Plus the foods that make one diabetic(simple carbohydrates whether they are combined with fat are not) physically makes people want to eat even more simple carbohydrates.





My experience is that medics don't know very much about anything. Medical science is _so_ over-rated, they don't know anything like as much as their inflated reputation suggests (just look at the frantic learning process we've witnessed in the course of this pandemic).
 
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Had a rapid PCR/NAAT test done today in Boston at a husk of a CVS (site was run by CVS too): results in under 45 min and provided proof too acceptable for travel. And all free. Ready for my adventure, lol.
 
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TheVrolok

Lifer
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My experience is that medics don't know very much about anything. Medical science is _so_ over-rated, they don't know anything like as much as their inflated reputation suggests (just look at the frantic learning process we've witnessed in the course of this pandemic).
Huh?
 

Captante

Lifer
Oct 20, 2003
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Actually it was genetically engineered by liberals to infect mainly Republicans. The evidence is irrefutable.


Certainly has worked out that way for large numbers of GOP VOTERS*.

*(read: "SUCKERS")


Interesting that the VAST MAJORITY of GOP LEADERS are fully vaccinated themselves while continuing to sow doubt about the vaccines in public JUST TO GET VOTES.
 

Captante

Lifer
Oct 20, 2003
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My experience is that medics don't know very much about anything. Medical science is _so_ over-rated, they don't know anything like as much as their inflated reputation suggests (just look at the frantic learning process we've witnessed in the course of this pandemic).


Doesn't say much for your "experience" is my take-away from this post.




Definition of science:

"the intellectual and practical activity encompassing the systematic study of the structure and behavior of the physical and natural world through observation and experiment."

Doctors are essentially practical scientists and thus DO NOT know everything obviously, however you are 100% mistaken in that they do have quite a bit of knowledge.

We have quite a ways to go before Dr McCoy's medical "Tricorders" but all kinds of stuff that was a quick death sentence when I was a kid is treatable or curable now.
 
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Muse

Lifer
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Doesn't say much for your "experience" is my take-away from this post.




Definition of science:

"the intellectual and practical activity encompassing the systematic study of the structure and behavior of the physical and natural world through observation and experiment."

Doctors are essentially practical scientists and thus DO NOT know everything obviously, however you are 100% mistaken in that they do have quite a bit of knowledge.

We have quite a ways to go before Dr McCoy's medical "Tricorders" but all kinds of stuff that was a quick death sentence when I was a kid is treatable or curable now.
I've found most doctors to be very knowledgeable concerning medical matters. However, there are mind boggling exceptions. One wonders how they graduated from medical school. Trump found some of those and formed alliances. Birds of a feather flock together, and know-nothings avoid knowledgeable people. An observant person had to notice how Trump kept his best medical advisors at great distance during his daily news conferences earlier in the pandemic. He glanced over his right shoulder at one when he thought out loud about the efficacy of injecting bleach. She, however, looked down at the floor.
 
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Captante

Lifer
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I've found most doctors to be very knowledgeable concerning medical matters. However, there are mind boggling exceptions. One wonders how they graduated from medical school. Trump found some of those and formed alliances.



Reminder:


Q: What do you call the person who graduates last in their class from the worst ranked medical school on earth?

A: Doctor.


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