I feel like you and dullard both are assuming I mean "prevents infection 100%" and if that's the case and we're arguing the semantics of parsing the word "prevent", then I'll shut up. That was not (nor ever) my intent.Two problems with your posts. First you're using the word prevention unequivocally, which can be inferred to mean the mRNA vaccines are extremely effective at preventing transmission.
Secondly, what was true for the original Wuhan strain is no longer the case for Omicron. Yes, a triple-dose course of mRNA vaccine does in fact cut down significantly on symptomatic infections but it's nowhere near 100%. 6 months after a two-dose course, the efficacy against Omicron infection is fairly modest and that's why Omicron is doubling so rapidly. Source: recent UK study (and before that Israeli data from the delta surge).
Yes, a triple-dose course of mRNA vaccine does in fact cut down significantly on symptomatic infections but it's nowhere near 100%.
Very true. It is a burden on the healthcare workers. They are burned out with the covidiots. They staff should all get big raises. Most anti vaxxers are conservative. Conservatives don't really care about stuff until it happens to them though so this wouldn't occur to themUnfortunately caring for those who aren't vaccinated and are sick is exhausting.
I mean 95% is clearly nowhere near 100% 😜What is it? How do you define "nowhere near?"
I've never heard of a UPS/pharmacy!Stop by the local UPS store which is also a pharmacy, loads of people getting tested.
No idea why your replies are so salty; I wasn't picking sides but explaining that the word prevention has quite a strong connotation. I wasn't trying to argue semantics at all. I know you're a scientist and have pretty much always respected your posts. I accept your explanation.I feel like you and dullard both are assuming I mean "prevents infection 100%" and if that's the case and we're arguing the semantics of parsing the word "prevent", then I'll shut up. That was not (nor ever) my intent.
What is it? How do you define "nowhere near?"
Apologies, I wasn't salty about anything you said, more about dullard saying I had it completely wrong when the presumption was I was inferring that "prevents infections" has to be 100% in order for it to qualify as preventing infections, which defies logic and rhetoric.I've never heard of a UPS/pharmacy!
No idea why your replies are so salty; I wasn't picking sides but explaining that the word prevention has quite a strong connotation. I wasn't trying to argue semantics at all. I know you're a scientist and have pretty much always respected your posts. I accept your explanation.
As an aside, the guy who needs to be called out is partisan hack ultimatebob. He made claims about Joe Biden's speech that are patently false. I watched the first few minutes again where POTUS specifically addresses omicron, vaccination, boosters, and relative risk and it was good science IMO. Bob's dumb post was where this debate about vaccine efficacy started.
If there was was a speech transcript, I'd read through it to see if Biden ever said anything about a "shield" against infection. But Biden was so clear in his very first Q&A that I'm inclined to say bob is full of shit as usual.
Boosters give 70%-75% protection against mild disease from omicron, UK says
Booster Covid-19 vaccine shots give 70% to 75% protection against mild disease from the new omicron variant, the UK Health Security Agency said on Friday.www.cnbc.com
Correct, "nowhere near" isn't a scientific term. I will say 75% efficacy against symptomatic infection is pretty good. I hope all seniors and people with underlying conditions get boosted if they haven't already. There might have been a later study from the UK with very similar findings.
Silly Squirrel.Just got our first case of Omicron in my region.
Time to stock up on Tylenol Cold and Sinus and chicken noodle soup.
I eat fruit with anthocyanins and starch enzyme inhibitors and peanut butter to tame the grain seeking beast, plus there's a batch of vitamin C in fruit which certainly helps. Something like sweet potato at least has an enormous amount of beta carotene and is rather filling; preparation can be simple as baking it for 20 minutes.Yeah all that helps a lot too.
Carbs are my biggest weakness. All the good and easy to make meals happen to be full of carbs.
The numbers show it does protect against infection too, just not 100%.I really wish that Papa Joe would stop telling people that the vaccination will protect people from illness. It's not really true... you can still get sick from COVID even if you fully vaccinated and got the booster shot. You're much less likely to die from it, but we need to stop pretending that the vaccination is a shield from infection.
The clinical trial design looked at infection rates in the vaccine arm versus the placebo arm and found that the vaccine massively reduces risk of infection (either symptomatic or asymptomatic, primary outcomes 19 and 20):
ClinicalTrials.gov
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Yeah all that helps a lot too.
Carbs are my biggest weakness. All the good and easy to make meals happen to be full of carbs.
Trouble is, and apparently they've done studies that found this (though I could have told them years ago), if you have bad sleep you tend to crave carbohydrates.
Sounds like the town I lived in for HS and college - post office w/PO boxes and packaging services, pharmacy and corner store (more modern stuff was ~5 miles away).Stop by the local UPS store which is also a pharmacy, loads of people getting tested.
Based on those numbers, vaccination definitely increases your rate of survival, however if you have a booster and you still get a breakthrough infection, you're actually more likely to die than someone who gets a breakthrough infection without a booster (from a statistics perspective). That would imply that anyone booster'd who gets breakthrough infected should keep a very close eye on themselves.The numbers show it does protect against infection too, just not 100%.
Um, no.Based on those numbers, vaccination definitely increases your rate of survival, however if you have a booster and you still get a breakthrough infection, you're actually more likely to die than someone who gets a breakthrough infection without a booster (from a statistics perspective). That would imply that anyone booster'd who gets breakthrough infected should keep a very close eye on themselves.
Stop by the local UPS store which is also a pharmacy, loads of people getting tested.
Basically Omicron confers immunity to Delta, and since it spreads faster it blocks Delta from spreadingWhat's the mechanism by which one variant displaces another?
I mean, omicron is clearly much more contagious than delta. But why should Delta, therefore, decline? Why would Delta not continue spreading and making people ill regardless of what omicron is doing?
Is it that they actually compete directly to infect cells within each person, so if a little Delta turns up when omicron has already taken the particular cell, Omicron can tell it to go away as this cell is already occupied?
Or is it something to do with how the immune system works? But given that they seem not to have a huge overlap in immune response, how does it work out like that?
Basically Omicron confers immunity to Delta, and since it spreads faster it blocks Delta from spreading
There is a pretty strong association between vitamin D and the severity of sleep apnea. It doesn't mean there's a causal relationship, but it's worth trying to address it for the direct and indirect benefits of being vitamin D sufficent while the slow research process plods along depending on funding.Interesting, I did get diagnosed with sleep apnea... though I don't feel like I have bad sleep, I'm just lazy. Carbs based things like pasta, rice etc are easy. And take out even easier. I just need to force myself to lookup recipes that are not carb based and learn to make them. Living alone makes that hard though, hard to justify the time and effort for 1 meal.