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dasherHampton

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Honestly, reading the news I'm constantly reminded of the sort of opening-credits newspaper/tv broadcast montages I feel I've seen in so many zombie and other post-apocalypse movies. It's just unnervingly similar.

(I said this already I think, but your comment reminded me again!)


That's exactly what's been on my mind. This is how every pandemic or Zombie movie starts.

"And in lastest news, 13 more deaths were reported in rural Alabama."

If corpses start disappearing I'm locking myself in my basement.
 
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CZroe

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Jun 24, 2001
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That would be so much fun. I'd gladly take a post-apocalyptic world where I could drive fast over a normal world where I constantly get stuck behind slow people.
Would you still have a reason to go anywhere fast?
 

Arkaign

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Oct 27, 2006
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The biggest concern is civil unrest. Most people aren't going to miss work just because they're sick. Estimates are that over 75% of Americans are living paycheck to paycheck. How are people going to miss work unless they are forced to miss work. And, if that happens and is extended for a few weeks we are in trouble. Even one week of missed work will be bad enough. Remeember the government shut down last yeat? How many gov. workers were affected financially. It's sad how we easily forget.

Yep. And are landlords and apartment managers going to start evicting people en masse into the streets during a pandemic? Many of whom may be sick and trying to self isolate? Probably so. Not to mention that even being able to stay home and simply buy food and keep the lights on is impossible for the majority of Americans today for more than a single paycheck period these days without continuing income to barely squeeze by with.

The widening inequality in the country since 1980ish is setting up a complete time bomb ready to rip the country down to its foundations, just needs the lit match to drop into the ocean of gasoline we've been pouring into the streets to ignite.
 

pmv

Lifer
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That would be so much fun. I'd gladly take a post-apocalyptic world where I could drive fast over a normal world where I constantly get stuck behind slow people.

My understanding is you'd only get a couple of years of such fun, though, before all the remaining gasoline turned to jelly.
 

Arkaign

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My understanding is you'd only get a couple of years of such fun, though, before all the remaining gasoline turned to jelly.

With access to the right libraries, you could gain a basic engineering understanding of how to refine gasoline from crude oil, it would be a definite commitment in time, effort, and exactitude of course. Probably would end up more focused on water, food, warmth, security vs something that involved in the typical post apocalyptic popular media scenario unless you had a cooperative band of intelligent survivors working together without much in the way of further environmental dangers.

It's fascinating to think about. I've learned a moderate amount of basic metallurgy and smithing to make a rock and mud forge and could conceivably return to the iron age if somehow I got warped into the stone age IF I didn't get killed by illness, wild animals, primitive humans, etc lol.

One thing is for sure, most of us would fare poorly, probably me included, in a complete lack of what we widely depend on. I lived through a winter in an isolated Montana one room cabin with no power or running water, just an old wood stove and melting snow for water, dried venison, oatmeal, assorted canned goods. That was a real eye opener, but gave me an immense respect for silence, literature, and senses of sight, sound, smell, motion. Coming back to contemporary society was so freaking noisy it's almost impossible to explain. After about a hundred days of zero human interaction it felt alien to me.
 

SteveGrabowski

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Ugh if the mortality rate is really 2-3%. Spanish flu's mortality rate was 2.5% and that was when most of the world was ignoring it in 1918 to keep from killing morale for the war effort.
 

Arkaign

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Ugh if the mortality rate is really 2-3%. Spanish flu's mortality rate was 2.5% and that was when most of the world was ignoring it in 1918 to keep from killing morale for the war effort.

Yes. Overall travel in 1918-19 was an absolute minimal amount compared to modern times as well, even with the troops coming back from Europe. That was by ships in slow batches, vs the massive amount of rapid global air travel we see today, as well as enormous interstate highway travel.

A hundred years ago, most people lived in rural communities and rarely went much farther than 10-20 miles from home for most of their lives with rare exceptions.

So communicability of viral spread is just drastically higher these days.
 

IndyColtsFan

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Sep 22, 2007
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One thing is for sure, most of us would fare poorly, probably me included, in a complete lack of what we widely depend on. I lived through a winter in an isolated Montana one room cabin with no power or running water, just an old wood stove and melting snow for water, dried venison, oatmeal, assorted canned goods. That was a real eye opener, but gave me an immense respect for silence, literature, and senses of sight, sound, smell, motion. Coming back to contemporary society was so freaking noisy it's almost impossible to explain. After about a hundred days of zero human interaction it felt alien to me.

I’ve been thinking about buying an isolated cabin in Montana and moving. Of course, I would want running water and internet - as long as I could have some form of Internet, I could keep my job and the money would keep flowing in. As long as it wasn’t so isolated that I couldn’t have Amazon deliver, I think I’d be fine.

Back to the subject at hand, I am wondering if I should perhaps stock up on some dried and canned foods given the massive stupidity of the average person. With the news media’s fearmongering and the massive ignorance in society, I could see people rampaging through stores and clearing the shelves, looting, etc. if it does spread as anticipated.
 
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ponyo

Lifer
Feb 14, 2002
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I’ve been thinking about buying an isolated cabin in Montana and moving. Of course, I would want running water and internet - as long as I could have some form of Internet, I could keep my job and the money would keep flowing in. As long as it wasn’t so isolated that I couldn’t have Amazon deliver, I think I’d be fine.

Back to the subject at hand, I am wondering if I should perhaps stock up on some dried and canned foods given the massive stupidity of the average person. With the news media’s fearmongering and the massive ignorance in society, I could see people rampaging through stores and clearing the shelves, looting, etc. if it does spread as anticipated.
You should have some dried and canned foods regardless of this coronavirus scare. I would say you're the stupid one if you don't have any around for general use and any potential emergencies. At this point, the masses have already gone and cleaned out most stores of the essentials. If you don't have the essentials, go waste your time searching for restocks. If you already have the essentials, there's nothing to panic about and you can just relax.
 

IndyColtsFan

Lifer
Sep 22, 2007
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You should have some dried and canned foods regardless of this coronavirus scare. I would say you're the stupid one if you don't have any around for general use and any potential emergencies. At this point, the masses have already gone and cleaned out most stores of the essentials. If you don't have the essentials, go waste your time searching for restocks. If you already have the essentials, there's nothing to panic about and you can just relax.

I have lots of canned food but probably not enough for more than a couple of weeks. I doubt VERY seriously the stores are already cleaned out - maybe in areas already impacted, but in the rest of the US? You're wrong.
 
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[DHT]Osiris

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I have lots of canned food but probably not enough for more than a couple of weeks.
You're fine then. This isn't an apocalyptic scenario, most people that are 'prepping' right now (at least the non-crazies) are just getting enough stuff to last through a few weeks if there's a quarantine and shortage of food. The whole idea it to smear out the demand of our logistical supply lines, so that everyone isn't trying to buy everything at once.
 
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