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skace

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Don't be foolish. All the wiki article shows is that it's recognized as a variant by some and not by others.

"Ain't" was considered incorrect for a long time too. Common usage caused it to be accepted eventually. That's how it works with language, since language is not static but ever evolving. So stop imagining that the way YOU like it is the only way it should be.

Ain't is still incorrect.... Now I just need to figure out why Firefox isn't underlining it, LIKE IT SHOULD BE.
 

zinfamous

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Ain't is still incorrect.... Now I just need to figure out why Firefox isn't underlining it, LIKE IT SHOULD BE.

don't worry, Firefox does not accept "Zealand" as a proper spelling, to balance this error.

:hmm:
 

Auggie

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Eh, for every hick that says "nucular" there are 3 or 4 uptight and snooty bastards that say "et cetra" rather than "et cetera" while trying to sound s-m-r-t.
 

MJinZ

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Don't be foolish. All the wiki article shows is that it's recognized as a variant by some and not by others.

"Ain't" was considered incorrect for a long time too. Common usage caused it to be accepted eventually. That's how it works with language, since language is not static but ever evolving. So stop imagining that the way YOU like it is the only way it should be.

"Ain't" is NEVER a word one should use in any formal, educated, written, non-colloquial, scientific, or intellectual context outside of an academic reference (like I just did) or mockery.
 

Schadenfroh

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So, I was watching Fox News this weekend and heard one of their commentators use the word Nuclear...only he pronounced it nookular. What kind of dumbfuck who proclaims to be a journalist intentionally mispronounces a word like this? Did you flunk out of high school and then go to the University of Dumbfuckistan for your degree in Journalism?

I guess President / Supreme Allied Commander Eisenhower went to the same school:
http://people.ischool.berkeley.edu/~nunberg/nucular.html
Take the pronunciation of nuclear as "nucular." That one has been getting on people's nerves since Eisenhower made the mispronunciation famous in the 1950's.
 
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"Ain't" is NEVER a word one should use in any formal, educated, written, non-colloquial, scientific, or intellectual context outside of an academic reference (like I just did) or mockery.
I agree completely. Ironically enough, we are dicussing this fact using a medium that has done more to torture, abuse, mangle, and mutilate the English language than any other medium in history.

Let's clear something up here. Just because a word is "disapproved" of, that doesn't mean it hasn't been accepted into the English lexicon. Ain't is one such word. Nucular is another. I really don't care if a bunch of snobby, uptight twits want to look down their collective noses at a word that they feel is beneath them because, allegedly, only idiots or the uneducated employ them. In fact, that a-holish attitude nearly prompts me to use them purely to piss off those posers and I hope everyone else that can't stand self-important types feels the same way.
 

mizzou

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It's called pandering. Politicians in Missouri do it all the time and get caught consistently red-handed.

"Miz-zur-uh" when you speak with "country folk"

"Miz-zirry" when you speak with "city folk"
 

zinfamous

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I agree completely. Ironically enough, we are dicussing this fact using a medium that has done more to torture, abuse, mangle, and mutilate the English language than any other medium in history.

Let's clear something up here. Just because a word is "disapproved" of, that doesn't mean it hasn't been accepted into the English lexicon. Ain't is one such word. Nucular is another. I really don't care if a bunch of snobby, uptight twits want to look down their collective noses at a word that they feel is beneath them because, allegedly, only idiots or the uneducated employ them. In fact, that a-holish attitude nearly prompts me to use them purely to piss off those posers and I hope everyone else that can't stand self-important types feels the same way.

it's, "poseur."

not, "poser."



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poseur
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/poseur
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/poseur

look, even the peons at urban dictionary know this:
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=poseur
 

tcsenter

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Sep 7, 2001
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Its one thing to [mis] pronounce a word colloquially (spoken), its quite another to misspell the word as well in a way that phonetically parallels the colloquial gaff. Lots of people mispronounce NUCLEAR and yet they spell it correctly.
 

zinfamous

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Its one thing to [mis] pronounce a word colloquially (spoken), its quite another to misspell the word as well in a way that phonetically parallels the colloquial gaff. Lots of people mispronounce NUCLEAR and yet they spell it correctly.

and that's the ridiculous thing about it. It's quite obvious how it's pronounced. It's not a difficult pronunciation. It shows some odd form of illiteracy. You know what it looks like, you've arrived at and past the age where you should know how to read and speak, yet you somehow think that Nuclear = nucular?

It's completely bizarre, honestly.
 

Perknose

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Not only is it a weak rant, it's an uninformed one.

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/nuclear

Main Entry: nu·cle·ar
Pronunciation: \ˈnü-klē-ər, ˈnyü-, ÷-kyə-lər\
Notice the second accepted pronunciation?

My God! If there's anything more annoying than a retard, it's an insistent retard!

That second pronunciation is NOT "nookular", you fucking dipshit!

Let me break it down for you, Sparky:

ˈnyü- /= noo

kyə /= u

lər /= lar
Three short syllables, patiently explained before your tiny little brain, and YOU GOT ALL THREE WRONG.

What a big, sloppy bucket of fiercely determined FAIL you are!

Does Mom still tie your shoes for you, or what?
 

zinfamous

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also, no one says "nuculus." It's certainly not accepted in any circle.

Is it that largely, only scientists (mostly physicists and molecular biologists) are primarily the referring to a "nucleus," and it is simply uncommon amongst the lay population? Is that what prevents such bizarre mispronunciations from arising in the first place?
 

zinfamous

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/looks at zin's lack of capitalization and horrid sentence structure in his rebuke

otay dude. tanks for da' heads up. :thumbsup:

well, now you're simply being silly.

isn't it ironic that a grammar poseur is unveiled while attempting a bash against "posers?"



but actually, most people have no idea how that word is truly spelled. weird...I've known it since the only age people ever use it (middle school--when such things are..."important" :sneaky

the misspelling isn't accepted in any language guide.
 
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My God! If there's anything more annoying than a retard, it's an insistent retard!

That second pronunciation is NOT "nookular", you fucking dipshit!

Three short syllables, patiently explained before your tiny little brain, and YOU GOT ALL THREE WRONG.

What a big, sloppy bucket of fiercely determined FAIL you are!

Does Mom still tie your shoes for you, or what?
lol. The second pronunciation is essentially nookular, nucular, nukyaler, or however you want to spell it out, dipshit. Stop trying to be such an assinine pedant based on a spelling when everyone else already knows what specific pronunciation we are talking about.

Sheesh, fucking moron.
 

eits

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Don't be foolish. All the wiki article shows is that it's recognized as a variant by some and not by others.

"Ain't" was considered incorrect for a long time too. Common usage caused it to be accepted eventually. That's how it works with language, since language is not static but ever evolving. So stop imagining that the way YOU like it is the only way it should be.

"ain't" is the incorrect pronunciation of "isn't"

so many uneducated people said it that it finally became a word in the dictionary.

until "nucular" becomes a term in the dictionary synonymous with "nuclear," as opposed to something that comes from or pertains to a nucule, nuclear = nuclear, not nucular.

nucular is NOT nuclear.

p.s. i'm not being foolish in proving to you that "nucular" is an incorrect way of saying "nuclear".
 
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well, now you're simply being silly.

isn't it ironic that a grammar poseur is unveiled while attempting a bash against "posers?"



but actually, most people have no idea how that word is truly spelled. weird...I've known it since the only age people ever use it (middle school--when such things are..."important" :sneaky

the misspelling isn't accepted in any language guide.
The "poseurs" I'm bashing are those positioning themselves as some sort of elite of the grammar world who feel it's their job to mock and deride those who don't speak precisely as the "posers" dictate. I'm not the one trying to claim there is only one right way and that all others are hicks and/or idiots.

But, whatever inflates your e-peen, sport. Help yourself.
 

JulesMaximus

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I learned how to pronounce this word in middle school...over 25 years ago. The fact that this is even debated just proves to me how stupid many Americans are. There is only one way to properly pronounce nuclear...and it isn't the way the dumbshit from faux news pronounced it.
 

tcsenter

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It shows some odd form of illiteracy.
No, it shows some odd form of style and usage owing to several factors (including vernaculars or dialects to which one may have been exposed as a child or adolescent, which can be difficult to overcome in colloquial usage), having little to nothing to do with literacy. e.g. SKEDJUAL v. SHEDJUL

Another example that came to mind is the term jejunum, which one of my anatomy professors curiously pronounced:

jeg-eu-neum

Of course, it could have been because he was illiterate. He "only" held doctorates in anatomy and physiology from Michigan State and Wayne State universities.
 
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Perknose

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lol. The second pronunciation is essentially nookular, nucular, nukyaler, or however you want to spell it out, dipshit. Stop trying to be such an assinine pedant based on a spelling when everyone else already knows what specific pronunciation we are talking about.

Sheesh, fucking moron.

No, it's not. Right at the beginning it's not:

ˈnyü is NOT "noo" or "nu" at all, it . . . is . . . just . . . NOT.

Right in this thread, there is a brave listener who installed Apple quicktime so he could listen to the pronunciations, and he reported back:
:thumbsdown: Fail. I listened to both of the audio pronunciations on that site, and neither sounds like "nook-u-lar".
Christ, man, RIGHT ON THAT MERRIAM-WEBSTER PAGE is a pronunciation symbol guide you can click on:

[FONT=Arial, Helvetica]
\ n \ as n in own
\
\ as ng in sing
\
\ as o in go
\
\ as aw in law
\
i \ as oy in boy
\ p \ as p in pepper
[/FONT] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica] \ s \ as s in less
\ sh \ as sh in shy
\ t \ as t in tie
\ th \ as th in thin
\ th \ as th in the
\ ü \ as oo in loot
\
\ as oo in foot
\ v \ as v in vivid
\ w \ as w in away
\ y \ as y in yet
\ yü \ as you in youth
\ y
\ as u in curable
\ z \ as z in zone
\ zh \ as si in vision
[/FONT]
If you were still either too stubborn or too dense to comprehend or admit that ˈnyü is NOT "noo" or "nu", whoop, there it is!

I'm not going to help you get dressed any further than this, you're on your own for the other two syllables, but you're continued dimwitted contention about the second pronunciation, and I guote, "The second pronunciation is essentially nookular, nucular, nukyaler" is dead on arrival and dumb as a dodo, chum.

Admit it.
 
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"ain't" is the incorrect pronunciation of "isn't"

so many uneducated people said it that it finally became a word in the dictionary.

until "nucular" becomes a term in the dictionary synonymous with "nuclear," as opposed to something that comes from or pertains to a nucule, nuclear = nuclear, not nucular.

nucular is NOT nuclear.

p.s. i'm not being foolish in proving to you that "nucular" is an incorrect way of saying "nuclear".
iirc, the first variation of "ain't" is allegedly traced back to that uneducated hick of language bastardization, William Shakespeare.

It would seem that few in here realize how languages evolve and are putting the cart before the horse. Language is malleable, not static and etched in stone. The incorrect common usage and pronunciation of words are part of what changes a language (along with the integration of foreign tongues and words). If it weren't we might still still be reading, writing, and speaking much the same as Chaucer to this very day.

Oddly enough, some of you in here are bitching and complaining about evolution in action. Nucular may or may not finally be accepted as a common pronunciation with no objections. Time will tell. But it's a small look at how our language changes over time and I think it's rather fascinating, and not worth getting anyone's lacy panties all in a bunch about. There are far more important issues to consider than getting all bent out of shape because someone says "nucular." Shit, there's no fucking "h" in car or park either but I've heard New Englanders pronounce it as if there is. Shall I claim them all to be idiots and uneducated because they can't properly say those words?
 

JD50

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I learned how to pronounce this word in middle school...over 25 years ago. The fact that this is even debated just proves to me how stupid many Americans are. There is only one way to properly pronounce nuclear...and it isn't the way the dumbshit from faux news pronounced it.

Translation -

"People that don't talk like me are stupid"

I'm sure there's a word or two that you don't pronounce correctly either, get over it. This was obviously just an excuse to bash Fox News.
 
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