Normal temps for a GTX 570 (pre-OCed)

dpodblood

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I have an MSI GTX 570 pre-overclocked (not the one with the Frozr cooler) and I have been having some issues with screen artifacting and crashing in BF3. It only happens in this game, and when it happens the game is not actually closing down. It just minimizes to the system tray and stops responding. I am also not getting any error message from the video driver. When this last happened I needed to force a reboot as the game would not shut down. When I started back up I checked the temps with GPUz, and it was reading as 70 degrees C. Is this a normal temp for this card?
 

lehtv

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If it has a normal reference-type cooler, yes that is a normal load temperature. It may be that the GPU is not getting enough voltage - use MSI afterburner to give it a slight voltage boost and see if that makes it stable.
 

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70 C would actually be very low for a reference cooled gtx570 if you are talking about under load. in fact I would say that is almost impossible in a game like BF 3. for the last few months MSI was actually using the gtx470 pcb and cooler on their gtx570 cards so that would make it impossible if that is what you have.
 
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dpodblood

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70C was immediately after the reboot, so the card would have had a little bit of time to cool. Currently is is idling at 66C. I will need to do some testing tonight to determine what the actual temp is under load. I find it very odd that this only happens in BF3. I know it's a graphically intensive game, but I have not seen is issue with any other title. I'm thinking it's probably a driver related issue, but I haven't been able to come up anything with my googling.

Here is the card I have:
http://www.msi.com/product/vga/N570GTX-M2D12D5-OC.html
 
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toyota

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70C was immediately after the reboot, so the card would have had a little bit of time to cool. Currently is is idling at 66C. I will need to do some testing tonight to determine what the actual temp is under load. I find it very odd that this only happens in BF3. I know it's a graphically intensive game, but I have not seen is issue with any other title. I'm thinking it's probably a driver related issue, but I haven't been able to come up anything with my googling.

Here is the card I have:
http://www.msi.com/product/vga/N570GTX-M2D12D5-OC.html
um if you are idling at 66C then something is wrong because you should only be in the 30s or 40s tops. sounds like you either are using more than one monitor or doing something else causing the card not to go to 2D clocks.
 

dpodblood

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um if you are idling at 66C then something is wrong because you should only be in the 30s or 40s tops. sounds like you either are using more than one monitor or doing something else causing the card not to go to 2D clocks.

I am indeed using 2 monitors! Should 2 monitors really make that big of a difference in temperature when simply sitting at the desktop??
 

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I am indeed using 2 monitors! Should 2 monitors really make that big of a difference in temperature when simply sitting at the desktop??
yeah because the cards do not idle down which is stupid. there might be some fix for it but I do not normally use 2 monitors and have not looked into it.
 

dpodblood

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Wow that is pretty stupid. Guess I can do some googling to try and find a solution. I did apply a firmware update for my card this morning. Hopefully that will resolve the issue. I will also check and see what my temps are while in game. I wonder if disabling my secondary screen would make any difference.
 

lehtv

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I don't think there is a solution. It's the same with a 120hz monitor (2x60hz), it won't downclock if the desktop is at 120hz.
 

dpodblood

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That's horrible. Shouldn't that be something that Nvidia, and ATI could handle in drivers?
 

lehtv

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I'm pretty sure MSI afterburner can only set a 2D profile within the limits of 3D clocks
 

notty22

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Hmm that looks like a good solution, but in the version I have 1.9.9.5 I cant seem to find that option.

Read the first post in that thread. It's a hidden option/tab. You need to right click on the overclocking tab. Or button, on the bottom there. Click start multi-monitoring option, then a window will open up and you select your gpu.


 
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dpodblood

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Using the nvidia inspector I was able to get my card down to normal temps when sitting at the desktop. I'm not getting any flicker or anything. In game the temps go up to around 80-90C. Since flashing the firmware this morning I have not experienced any more crashes. Hopefully it stays that way.
 

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Interesting thread. I was not aware of the dual monitor issue. Is this model specific, manufacturer specific or chip specific? I use dual 2560x1600 and I guess I never noticed. I'm about to return a brand new ASUS GTX570 DCUII due to what appears to be a bad DVI port, and this information may affect what I replace it with.
 

dpodblood

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Interesting thread. I was not aware of the dual monitor issue. Is this model specific, manufacturer specific or chip specific? I use dual 2560x1600 and I guess I never noticed. I'm about to return a brand new ASUS GTX570 DCUII due to what appears to be a bad DVI port, and this information may affect what I replace it with.

From what I've read it affects every multimonitor setup using GDDR5 based video cards from both ATI and Nvidia.
 

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I have the EVGA GTX 570 Superclocked (797Mhz clock), and it reaches 70-71c while playing BF3 for a while. Since the weather has gotten cooler, it's even less. High 60s.

I did tweak my fan profile a bit, it runs at 75 percent of it's max speed during play. Hope this helps.

Side tip, check your voltage if you have any intermittent problems with BF3 crashing or driver not responding errors in windows.
 
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Childs

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I don't think there is a solution. It's the same with a 120hz monitor (2x60hz), it won't downclock if the desktop is at 120hz.

So having two monitors, 1 being 120Hz, is just asking for it? Maybe this explains some issues I am having with BF3.
 
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