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HomerJS

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More slapping Trump around by NK
The U.S. president at a [golf] links again let out a load of nonsense about ‘fire and fury’ failing to grasp the on-going grave situation,” General Kim Rak Gyom said
 

Maxima1

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So easy that's why Republicans got him at Tora Bora. Oh that's right, they didn't

What does the luck of finding him have to do with what you were originally responding to? They debated heavily on going through with it, btw.

Since you believe it shows something significant, can you tell me why Obama was afraid of being perceived as tipping the scales in the election?
 

ivwshane

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What does the luck of finding him have to do with what you were originally responding to? They debated heavily on going through with it, btw.

Since you believe it shows something significant, can you tell me why Obama was afraid of being perceived as tipping the scales in the election?

Probably because he values democracy and the fact that true democracies are supposed to be free from influence, whether internal (like from an existing leader) or external (like from a foreign power).
 

Maxima1

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Probably because he values democracy and the fact that true democracies are supposed to be free from influence, whether internal (like from an existing leader) or external (like from a foreign power).

WTF. That's not democracy, you twit, especially since it was already one-sided with the Hillary bull****. No, he was sensitive because of his legacy. He wanted to be the guy who got both political parties together. Do you know he picked Comey as an olive branch to Republicans?
 

HomerJS

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What does the luck of finding him have to do with what you were originally responding to? They debated heavily on going through with it, btw.

Since you believe it shows something significant, can you tell me why Obama was afraid of being perceived as tipping the scales in the election?
Luck my ass. They knew he was there but didn't pull the trigger.

Trump is a master at convincing a large part of the country everything is a conspiracy. Obama felt obligated to do everything in his power the election was perceived as fair. He tried to get the Republicans on board and issue a joint statement so it would be bi-partisan but Mitch refused. Also he thought Hillary would still win. He was wrong as was everyone.

If he was selfish he would have just released it without thought. Knowing what we know now he should have.
 

ivwshane

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WTF. That's not democracy, you twit, especially since it was already one-sided with the Hillary bull****. No, he was sensitive because of his legacy. He wanted to be the guy who got both political parties together. Do you know he picked Comey as an olive branch to Republicans?

What are you talking about? You are all over the place, take a breather, think about what you are trying to say and stick to one topic.
 

Maxima1

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Obama felt obligated to do everything in his power the election was perceived as fair. He tried to get the Republicans on board and issue a joint statement so it would be bi-partisan but Mitch refused. Also he thought Hillary would still win. He was wrong as was everyone.
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Why play nice guy? Republicans are running circles around the Democratic party because of this. You hurt democracy when you are a nice guy while the opposite party keeps playing dirty. For example, you don't pick 60-something centrist//corporate judges to place in a SC seat when the opposing party is picking hardline conservative 40-somethings.
 

Maxima1

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What are you talking about? You are all over the place, take a breather, think about what you are trying to say and stick to one topic.

You're the one who doesn't make any sense. When this nation was founded, states started allocating their votes by winner-take-all very early. Any state that didn't would have their influence diminished. Your logic is basically staying as is despite it being unequal.
 

Jhhnn

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kage69

Lifer
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We need a Pacific version of NATO. Doesn't matter if it's North Korean belligerence or Chinese expansionism; the US, Japan, South Korea, Vietnam, Taiwan, Indonesia, Singapore, Australia and New Zealand need to stand together and say Nope. Pretty much everyone has been spending like sailors on defense thanks to China lately, so they've already got that problem solved!
 

ivwshane

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You're the one who doesn't make any sense. When this nation was founded, states started allocating their votes by winner-take-all very early. Any state that didn't would have their influence diminished. Your logic is basically staying as is despite it being unequal.

So to be clear. A democracy that is influenced by a hostile foreign nation and one influenced by sitting leaders (other than endorsements) during an election is a sign of a democracy on stable ground?

You must be a Bernie supporter because you are that fucking dumb.
 

Maxima1

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So to be clear. A democracy that is influenced by a hostile foreign nation and one influenced by sitting leaders (other than endorsements) during an election is a sign of a democracy on stable ground?

You must be a Bernie supporter because you are that fucking dumb.

You're basically saying Democrats should just lay down and take it up the *** while Republicans cheat and break norms constantly. And it's not even wrong for Obama to have exposed Russia. The voters have a right to know that. Dumb***!
 

ivwshane

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You're basically saying Democrats should just lay down and take it up the *** while Republicans cheat and break norms constantly. And it's not even wrong for Obama to have exposed Russia. The voters have a right to know that. Dumb***!

Lol wut?

Like I said in a previous post, take a deep breath and figure out wtf you are trying to say. You are in a thread about north Korea taking about Obama, Hilary, and the DNC.
 

Maxima1

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Lol wut?

Like I said in a previous post, take a deep breath and figure out wtf you are trying to say. You are in a thread about north Korea taking about Obama, Hilary, and the DNC.

lol wut is right

"one influenced by sitting leaders (other than endorsements) during an election is a sign of a democracy on stable ground?"

What the hell are you saying here then?

This idiot is now heading CIA. You basically saying it was okay for them to exploit the hell out of what Russia was doing.

 

Jhhnn

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Yeah, so? He still left the public out of it. Do you also agree with the Democrats for reinstating filibuster for SC when they get back in office? lol

Now you're parroting Trump's spin on what he claimed to be fake news & a witch hunt-

http://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2017/06/24/trump-question-obama-russian-meddling-sot-newday.cnn

Which is a long ways from your contention that Obama was afraid to tip the scales of the election, apparently by campaigning furiously for Clinton...

WTF does the SCOTUS have to do with it?
 

Jhhnn

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Lol wut?

Like I said in a previous post, take a deep breath and figure out wtf you are trying to say. You are in a thread about north Korea taking about Obama, Hilary, and the DNC.

He's *blaming* Obama, Hillary & the DNC.... for everything, of course.
 

Maxima1

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Now you're parroting Trump's spin on what he claimed to be fake news & a witch hunt-

http://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2017/06/24/trump-question-obama-russian-meddling-sot-newday.cnn
Which is a long ways from your contention that Obama was afraid to tip the scales of the election, apparently by campaigning furiously for Clinton...

I posted news articles. They are fake news? Just because Trump tries to use it as a distraction doesn't mean it's not true.

WTF does the SCOTUS have to do with it?

The relation is that you are suggesting that Dems should not hit back despite Republicans cheating and breaking norms constantly. Nonetheless, it wouldn't even have been dirty for Obama admin to expose it.
 

Maxima1

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Lol wut?

Like I said in a previous post, take a deep breath and figure out wtf you are trying to say. You are in a thread about north Korea taking about Obama, Hilary, and the DNC.

BTW, did France trash democracy when liberal/conservative factions got together to obliterate Le Pen?
 

HomerJS

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Why play nice guy? Republicans are running circles around the Democratic party because of this. You hurt democracy when you are a nice guy while the opposite party keeps playing dirty. For example, you don't pick 60-something centrist//corporate judges to place in a SC seat when the opposing party is picking hardline conservative 40-somethings.
Its called being a responsible person something you and Trump don't understand. BTW if Obama had released it you would have been one of the people screaming fix.

In some instances I agree. Al Gore should have pushed for a recount of the entire state of Florida.

Dems knew enough to stick with Clinton during Lewinsky

I think Dems get the point now because GOP stewing in the vat of their false promises. Schumer will not give them any help unless its on their terms
 
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NAC4EV

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I clicked on this thread thinking it's North Korea thread.

It's always the case in most threads.
The dumb asses always take over and turn it into a pissing contest on any subject under the sun.
 

TheVrolok

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So to be clear. A democracy that is influenced by a hostile foreign nation and one influenced by sitting leaders (other than endorsements) during an election is a sign of a democracy on stable ground?

You must be a Bernie supporter because you are that fucking dumb.
Definitely seems like and Bernie Bro who thinks the DNC and Hilary "stole" it from him showing is complete lack of understanding of the system. Probably reads reddit and considers himself among the few who "really get it." it's just the other side of the Trump fanatic coin.
 

Charlie22911

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It is my understanding that if the president issues an order for a nuclear strike that it has to be followed without question...
 
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