North Korea Nuclear Warhead fitting inside it's missiles

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FIVR

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They released a plan (on paper apparently) that says they will launch ICBMs and have them land a few miles off Guam to "prove" to us that they are not lying about having accurate ICBMs. I suggest Kim do this because there is nothing that scares americans more than physical threats. History shows americans are huge pussys when it comes to any sort real danger (see: terrorism).


I guess it will be up to the fat orange one to either nuke them or look like an idiot and make guam super pissed and probably spark the first movement for guamanian independence in who knows how long. I predict the dear leader sends the fat orange one running for cover.
 

HomerJS

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They released a plan (on paper apparently) that says they will launch ICBMs and have them land a few miles off Guam to "prove" to us that they are not lying about having accurate ICBMs. I suggest Kim do this because there is nothing that scares americans more than physical threats. History shows americans are huge pussys when it comes to any sort real danger (see: terrorism).


I guess it will be up to the fat orange one to either nuke them or look like an idiot and make guam super pissed and probably spark the first movement for guamanian independence in who knows how long. I predict the dear leader sends the fat orange one running for cover.
I agree. Maybe the large contingent of lemmings will finally realize how much of an incompotent boob Trump really is. I say that assuming the accuracy of their missiles.
 

Bubblehappy

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So what are the Western powers going to do? Invade and butcher another country?

How many countries must the West invade and destroy? Ya'll aren't done spreading your "Democracy" yet?

From the pictures I've seen (which seem kinda shady to me ), NK's military looks like from the 1950s and has missiles that look like toys. Are you all telling me that the Western powers with their trillion dollar militaries need to be afraid of this country that's on par with African nations?

You guys have bought into this mass fear mongering that's brought to you by your government/media propaganda.

This is 1000000000% spot on. Well said.

Kim is dumb, but not stupid. Even if he could put a warhead on a missile he's not stupid enough to lob it at a US territory.
 

Jhhnn

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They released a plan (on paper apparently) that says they will launch ICBMs and have them land a few miles off Guam to "prove" to us that they are not lying about having accurate ICBMs. I suggest Kim do this because there is nothing that scares americans more than physical threats. History shows americans are huge pussys when it comes to any sort real danger (see: terrorism).


I guess it will be up to the fat orange one to either nuke them or look like an idiot and make guam super pissed and probably spark the first movement for guamanian independence in who knows how long. I predict the dear leader sends the fat orange one running for cover.

I doubt the DPRK is dumb enough to do as you suggest. I also doubt that Guamians are dumb enough to give up American citizenship & the benefits of the welfare state they currently enjoy.
 

Bubblehappy

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and now NK has issued a threat of an attack on Guam.

Just some more saber rattling from Kim, that's all he has is words. Highly doubtful he can lob a missile toward a designated target with any amount of precision. Even if he could and did hit Guam, we'd respond with a force so deadly he wouldn't survive, and he probably knows that too.
 

Bubblehappy

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Oh, and remember Iraq's famed "defenses". The highly touted and trained "Republican Guard" that surrendered in masses? How Suddam was going to unleash his chemical terrors when he felt he was defeated?

This is a lot of nothing except media hype. We need to keep our noses out of this shit.
 

Bubblehappy

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Just what we need. A desperate for attention dictator in NK, giving our desperate wanna-be dictator an excuse to expend Korean and American lives towards living out his tough guy fantasy, maybe staying in office longer.

This mentally ill dipshit makes Dubya look like Clausewitz.

Yeah, well put. I'm sure Kim realizes this.
 

HomerJS

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Just some more saber rattling from Kim, that's all he has is words. Highly doubtful he can lob a missile toward a designated target with any amount of precision. Even if he could and did hit Guam, we'd respond with a force so deadly he wouldn't survive, and he probably knows that too.

If he hit Guam but nobody was hurt we wouldn't. Even if a few people were killed we would only respond in kind. If it was an all out catastrophic attack hundreds of thousands in SK would die.
 

SMOGZINN

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Just some more saber rattling from Kim, that's all he has is words. Highly doubtful he can lob a missile toward a designated target with any amount of precision. Even if he could and did hit Guam, we'd respond with a force so deadly he wouldn't survive, and he probably knows that too.

He does not have to be all that accurate. Aim for a spot a few miles off the cost of Guam, in international waters, and where ever it hit just claim that is what they were aiming for. They are not attacking Guam, they are testing their nuclear weapons and proving their ability to hit an American territory. The problem is Trump would feel like he has to respond to such a direct threat and he is not going to listen to his advisors about moderating his response.

Even if they can't actually put a nuke on a missile they could load one on a ship and sail it over there, fire the missile and detonate the bomb on the ship to make it look like their missile exploded. The world's government's would know it was faked, but NK could claim otherwise.


It is my understanding that if the president issues an order for a nuclear strike that it has to be followed without question...

No orders are to be followed with out question. All soldiers have an affirmative duty to disobey all unlawful orders. That means that they must question every order as to it legality.
 

HomerJS

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He does not have to be all that accurate. Aim for a spot a few miles off the cost of Guam, in international waters, and where ever it hit just claim that is what they were aiming for. They are not attacking Guam, they are testing their nuclear weapons and proving their ability to hit an American territory. The problem is Trump would feel like he has to respond to such a direct threat and he is not going to listen to his advisors about moderating his response.

Even if they can't actually put a nuke on a missile they could load one on a ship and sail it over there, fire the missile and detonate the bomb on the ship to make it look like their missile exploded. The world's government's would know it was faked, but NK could claim otherwise.




No orders are to be followed with out question. All soldiers have an affirmative duty to disobey all unlawful orders. That means that they must question every order as to it legality.
If NK lobs missiles at Guam and they land a few kms offshore I'm not sure its unlawful for Trump to nuke NK
 

woolfe9998

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I doubt the DPRK is dumb enough to do as you suggest. I also doubt that Guamians are dumb enough to give up American citizenship & the benefits of the welfare state they currently enjoy.

They say they're going to do it, by that, I do not mean that the missiles would carry actual nukes. I don't think that is what they are threatening. I personally think they will do it because they want to scare us by demonstrating that they could deliver a missile to US territory.

Anyway, it will give us an opportunity to test our ABM systems. The main criticism of them is that they pass their tests but it's always against our own missiles and we have no idea if they would work against foreign missile systems. We should park some ABM's in or near Guam and wait for it.
 

fskimospy

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So its not the nukes but where they are dropped. So Trump could nuke a military target.?

Hmm, no not that either. The ICJ ruled that the use of nuclear weapons was likely to be unlawful except as an act in preservation of the existence of a state. Not certainly, but very likely.

https://web.archive.org/web/2004101...iunan_ijudgment_19960708_Advisory Opinion.htm

That being said, people generally ignore international law whenever it is convenient to do so, so there's that.
 

Jhhnn

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He does not have to be all that accurate. Aim for a spot a few miles off the cost of Guam, in international waters, and where ever it hit just claim that is what they were aiming for. They are not attacking Guam, they are testing their nuclear weapons and proving their ability to hit an American territory. The problem is Trump would feel like he has to respond to such a direct threat and he is not going to listen to his advisors about moderating his response.

Even if they can't actually put a nuke on a missile they could load one on a ship and sail it over there, fire the missile and detonate the bomb on the ship to make it look like their missile exploded. The world's government's would know it was faked, but NK could claim otherwise.




No orders are to be followed with out question. All soldiers have an affirmative duty to disobey all unlawful orders. That means that they must question every order as to it legality.

Please. If any DPRK nuclear weapon goes off anywhere near Guam the Trump Admin would claim it was an attack that missed.

It's some of the dumbest shit imaginable.
 

Fenixgoon

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And. Ow dumbass is saying that his threat "maybe wasn't tough enough". He's just daring NK to start a war.

how congress isn't making a shitstorm i don't know. i find these comments to be completely irresponsible from the POTUS. i am legitimately concerned that trump would go off and order some bullshit preemptive strike. my only hope is that the rest of the military has some sense to refuse his orders.
 

Maxima1

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how congress isn't making a shitstorm i don't know. i find these comments to be completely irresponsible from the POTUS.

He could be more measured in his rhetoric, but stirring the pot and increasing pressure that he'll do something is not an illogical strategy.

i am legitimately concerned that trump would go off and order some bullshit preemptive strike. my only hope is that the rest of the military has some sense to refuse his orders.

He needs that rally behind the flag effect. XD
 
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