Originally posted by: SamurAchzar
Originally posted by: Todd33
Originally posted by: SamurAchzar
But you are claiming there is not moral high ground to take an aggressive stance here, right? You should be able to tell apart good from bad.
The stories about concentration camps and mass murders appeaing not too long ago are enough to put NK in the "bad" side.
Good and bad? What is this the 2nd grade? We are talking about international relations here - we are all good and bad, depends on who you ask. Are we to tell NK they are "bad" and then what? Pakistan is good harboring terrorist? China has no human rights violations?
I guess we could always fall back on "Do as we say, not as we do.."
YES, there is good and bad. For someone who lives in the free world and enjoys what it has to offer, a Nuke in the hands of NK is bad. There's no other way to twist it around.
Pakistan isn't better, granted, but the fact that you're unable to treat one shouldn't grant immunity to the other.
While I don't like lunatics having nuclear weapons, I am just as scared (or moreso) of them being in the hands of neocons. Personally I'd like all nukes destroyed. If not then America needs to quit thinking we're in charge of the planet. Every sovereign nation has the same rights. Period. At least until they do something to lose those rights...like say invading another sovereign nation under false pretenses...oh wait. Well then until they actually use nuclear weapons...ooops.
The ease with which some people deposit their own and their nations fate in the hands of madmen such as Kim Jong Yil and Achmadinghad keeps amazing me.
Assuming Nazi germany didn't invade any other sovereign country, just kept arming itself and killing minorities, disabled and gay, would it still have the same rights in your opinion?
Or to put it more clearly, what exactly should a country do to have these rights revoked? Are the actions, as mass murders, of Kim Jong Yil enough? How about Saddam and his use of chemical weapons?
I'll never put myself in the same moral level such as the scums from Iran and NK. First of all, because it's my survival or theirs; Second, I was educated to cherish the values of the free world and these countries are the everything but.
When you put yourself on the same moral grounds as loons like Saddam, Achmadinaghed and Kim Jong Yil, you should second guess your judgement.