North Korea tells U.S. that it has a secret nuclear program

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Hamburgerpimp

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These are total freaking morons who don't give a crap about anything but there own hides and hunger for power and respect.

Sounds familiar.
 

XMan

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Originally posted by: Hamburgerpimp
These are total freaking morons who don't give a crap about anything but there own hides and hunger for power and respect.

Sounds familiar.

The New York Yankees?
 

ReiAyanami

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and yet japan and US give them hundreds of millions of $$ in aide each year. and yet the people still starve, while the politicians eat golden eggs
 

rahvin

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North Korea is very dangerous. South Korea is still officially at war with them.
 

zzzz

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Originally posted by: rahvin
North Korea is very dangerous. South Korea is still officially at war with them.
So is South Korea equally dangerous?

 

rubix

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some of you chumps need to realize that you just can't say "so what they can have these weapons" because if you had half a brain you'd know they signed an agreement much like iraq to not make nulcear weapons and to allow inspectors to come over there. and they didn't sign this agreement out of the kindness of their hearts, they made an AGREEMENT for us to give them money and oil/power resources. so we are giving them billions of dollars in aid in order for them not to make these weapons and yet they are. they are getting the best of both worlds and are stealing from us and now can threaten us too.

we have nulcear weapons but did we sign any agreement that we would stop making them if other countires gave us billions of dollars? NO! how pissed off do you think others would be at us if you we did?

edit: and i forgot to add that not only are they stealing billions from us, breaking their agreement, posing a threat to south korea or us, they have not allowed inspectors in their country since they signed the agreement in 1994! and north korea is not run by the nicest guy in the world either if you have read about him ever. i bet once we kick iraq's ass north korea might start listening.
 

Rakkis

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Originally posted by: MartyTheManiak
So what? If they want weapons its their right to have them.

You obviously did not read the article. North Korea signed a treaty with the US and Japan stating they would not pursue having a nuclears weapon program
 

0roo0roo

No Lifer
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they also let the japanese hostages they took 2 decades ago visit

b4 this they denied it had happened. seems they killed some, and forced the rest to train their agents in japanese or osmething. only letting the hostages visit.. so still hostages. me thinks we should just drop a few bombs on north korean army facilities and governement buildings. those fat bastards are keeping our aid from reaching the people that need it, perhaps they should suffer a bit.
 

Hayabusa Rider

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Bush's To Do List:

Attack Afghanistan

Attack Iraq

Attack N. Korea

Attack Syria

Attack Iran....

Hey Dick, what other countries are we going after next week?
 

charrison

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Originally posted by: Hayabusarider
Bush's To Do List:

Attack Afghanistan

Attack Iraq

Attack N. Korea

Attack Syria

Attack Iran....

Hey Dick, what other countries are we going after next week?


Sorry we dont have the forces to occupy all those countries. Maybe you think we will get a draft too?
 

Hayabusa Rider

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Originally posted by: charrison
Originally posted by: Hayabusarider Bush's To Do List: Attack Afghanistan Attack Iraq Attack N. Korea Attack Syria Attack Iran.... Hey Dick, what other countries are we going after next week?
Sorry we dont have the forces to occupy all those countries. Maybe you think we will get a draft too?

Now that is a good point. I wonder if it will ever come to it. Depending on how things go and the number of troops needed to occupy Iraq, we may reinstate it. Remember that we occupied Japan for 6 years, and that was a piece of cake, since everyone there agreed to terms that were kept by all sides. Still, the occupation force was huge. If we do go after Syria or other countries, we may see this as a serious proposal in a few years.
 

charrison

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Originally posted by: Hayabusarider
Originally posted by: charrison
Originally posted by: Hayabusarider Bush's To Do List: Attack Afghanistan Attack Iraq Attack N. Korea Attack Syria Attack Iran.... Hey Dick, what other countries are we going after next week?
Sorry we dont have the forces to occupy all those countries. Maybe you think we will get a draft too?

Now that is a good point. I wonder if it will ever come to it. Depending on how things go and the number of troops needed to occupy Iraq, we may reinstate it. Remember that we occupied Japan for 6 years, and that was a piece of cake, since everyone there agreed to terms that were kept by all sides. Still, the occupation force was huge. If we do go after Syria or other countries, we may see this as a serious proposal in a few years.

I doubt there will much action after iraq. There will be alot of dust settling after that.
 

Martin

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Originally posted by: Rakkis
Originally posted by: MartyTheManiak
So what? If they want weapons its their right to have them.

You obviously did not read the article. North Korea signed a treaty with the US and Japan stating they would not pursue having a nuclears weapon program

When I clicked earlier, I didn't see that article on the page, must've been using a cached copy.

Anyway, thanks for pointing that out, it changes the situation (and my opinion).
 

Dragnov

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Originally posted by: charrison
Originally posted by: Hayabusarider
Originally posted by: charrison
Originally posted by: Hayabusarider Bush's To Do List: Attack Afghanistan Attack Iraq Attack N. Korea Attack Syria Attack Iran.... Hey Dick, what other countries are we going after next week?
Sorry we dont have the forces to occupy all those countries. Maybe you think we will get a draft too?

Now that is a good point. I wonder if it will ever come to it. Depending on how things go and the number of troops needed to occupy Iraq, we may reinstate it. Remember that we occupied Japan for 6 years, and that was a piece of cake, since everyone there agreed to terms that were kept by all sides. Still, the occupation force was huge. If we do go after Syria or other countries, we may see this as a serious proposal in a few years.

I doubt there will much action after iraq. There will be alot of dust settling after that.

Oh, I'm pretty sure we'll be going after Iran next (if succesfful in Iraq). I dunno bout North Korea though... I woudln't want fsck around w/ anything Asia. Most of the Asian countries have more political influence, and military power. Even though North Korea and South Korea are technically still at war, they are still hopes of reunification and South Korea wasn't too happy when Bush labeled North Korea as an axis of evil, stirring up some sh1t. You don't think China wouldn't be pissed either with the USA right under them if we invade North Korea?
 

charrison

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Originally posted by: Gr1mL0cK
Originally posted by: charrison
Originally posted by: Hayabusarider
Originally posted by: charrison
Originally posted by: Hayabusarider Bush's To Do List: Attack Afghanistan Attack Iraq Attack N. Korea Attack Syria Attack Iran.... Hey Dick, what other countries are we going after next week?
Sorry we dont have the forces to occupy all those countries. Maybe you think we will get a draft too?

Now that is a good point. I wonder if it will ever come to it. Depending on how things go and the number of troops needed to occupy Iraq, we may reinstate it. Remember that we occupied Japan for 6 years, and that was a piece of cake, since everyone there agreed to terms that were kept by all sides. Still, the occupation force was huge. If we do go after Syria or other countries, we may see this as a serious proposal in a few years.

I doubt there will much action after iraq. There will be alot of dust settling after that.

Oh, I'm pretty sure we'll be going after Iran next (if succesfful in Iraq). I dunno bout North Korea though... I woudln't want fsck around w/ anything Asia. Most of the Asian countries have more political influence, and military power. Even though North Korea and South Korea are technically still at war, they are still hopes of reunification and South Korea wasn't too happy when Bush labeled North Korea as an axis of evil, stirring up some sh1t. You don't think China wouldn't be pissed either with the USA right under them if we invade North Korea?

Putting a democratic goverment in Iraq will probably be enough to collapse the Iran goverment. The same will probably hold true for Saudi.

We have effectivly contained North Korea for 40 years and they are also near an economic collapse.

China we will have to keep an eye on. They could be a growing military power, but it appears they are not adding hardware fast enough to replace aging hardware. There is also talk of them cooking their books to show they have a growing economy rathern than a stagnant one. They are also a very large trading partner with the US, if we stop chinese imports 1/2 of the their economy goes away.

 

JellyBaby

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Originally posted by: Hayabusarider
Bush's To Do List:

Attack Afghanistan

Attack Iraq

Attack N. Korea

Attack Syria

Attack Iran....

Hey Dick, what other countries are we going after next week?
N. Korea and Syria are nuclear threats so it's unlikely Bush will go after either. I don't believe there's a master plan in that amount of detail. Invasion of Iraq gains oil, enough to satisfy his Oil-lust for a while I would hope.

Problem is, terrorism will be fueled. We may get oil but is it worth it if our security is worsened for the effort?
 

ViRGE

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Ok, serious question here: why should I care?

The Korean War was half a century ago, and since then we have for the most part left North Korea alone, and vice versa. What have we done recently to make them mad or otherwise worry about yet another nuclear power in the world?
 

hungrypete

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Originally posted by: charrison
Originally posted by: Hayabusarider
Bush's To Do List:

Attack Afghanistan

Attack Iraq

Attack N. Korea

Attack Syria

Attack Iran....

Hey Dick, what other countries are we going after next week?


Sorry we dont have the forces to occupy all those countries. Maybe you think we will get a draft too?


occupation is so 20th century... lobbing missiles from sea and sending bombers from missouri is the way of the future
 

Moonbeam

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Jesus, ViRGE, don't you listen to 308nato:

"We aren't talking about the little Cold War games I grew up with. These are total freaking morons who don't give a crap about anything but there own hides and hunger for power and respect. They starve their people and crush any semblance of freedom but they want to play ball with the real players. The normal guidelines of humanity, logic and international diplomacy do not apply."

They're animals, man, they need to be exterminated, and it's ok too because they aren't human.
 

charrison

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Originally posted by: ViRGE
Ok, serious question here: why should I care?

The Korean War was half a century ago, and since then we have for the most part left North Korea alone, and vice versa. What have we done recently to make them mad or otherwise worry about yet another nuclear power in the world?

We have kept them from invading South Korea.
 

Skyclad1uhm1

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He'll announce next week that the Democrats have a nuclear program and cooperate with Al Qaida, and nuke the US.
 

308nato

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Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Jesus, ViRGE, don't you listen to 308nato:

"We aren't talking about the little Cold War games I grew up with. These are total freaking morons who don't give a crap about anything but there own hides and hunger for power and respect. They starve their people and crush any semblance of freedom but they want to play ball with the real players. The normal guidelines of humanity, logic and international diplomacy do not apply."

They're animals, man, they need to be exterminated, and it's ok too because they aren't human.






Don't put words in my mouth. Your sarcastic little line there has not a damn thing to do with what I posted. I refer to the Laurel and Hardy communist leadership of the country, not the people. Where did I post anything about genocide and considering the population as subhuman? My point regarding the normal guidelines of diplomacy meant that when considering what actions a country might take when nuclear weapons are involved, how it worked in the Cold War between us and the USSR would not be the model.

As a little boy, I grew up hearing my father wake up in the middle of the night screaming things like "they're in the wire" and "ammo,ammo" and "christ, they won't stop coming". Yet, he never held a grudge against the N Korean troops or the Chinese. He never referred to them with anything other than respect for being brave and dedicated soldiers.

The only thing I ever heard him say about the Vietnam War during the entire conflict was while we were watching the news in the late 60's sometime. "the bastards aren't going to let us win this time either". No beloved patriot or subhuman comments. Ever.

So you can take your little sarcastic comments about what you think I believe and shove them up your bipolar little @ss. No disrespect intended BTW.
 

0roo0roo

No Lifer
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Originally posted by: charrison
Originally posted by: Hayabusarider
Bush's To Do List:

Attack Afghanistan

Attack Iraq

Attack N. Korea

Attack Syria

Attack Iran....

Hey Dick, what other countries are we going after next week?


Sorry we dont have the forces to occupy all those countries. Maybe you think we will get a draft too?



nuke em!!
 

jjones

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Oct 9, 2001
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Originally posted by: 308nato
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Jesus, ViRGE, don't you listen to 308nato:

"We aren't talking about the little Cold War games I grew up with. These are total freaking morons who don't give a crap about anything but there own hides and hunger for power and respect. They starve their people and crush any semblance of freedom but they want to play ball with the real players. The normal guidelines of humanity, logic and international diplomacy do not apply."

They're animals, man, they need to be exterminated, and it's ok too because they aren't human.






Don't put words in my mouth. Your sarcastic little line there has not a damn thing to do with what I posted. I refer to the Laurel and Hardy communist leadership of the country, not the people. Where did I post anything about genocide and considering the population as subhuman? My point regarding the normal guidelines of diplomacy meant that when considering what actions a country might take when nuclear weapons are involved, how it worked in the Cold War between us and the USSR would not be the model.

As a little boy, I grew up hearing my father wake up in the middle of the night screaming things like "they're in the wire" and "ammo,ammo" and "christ, they won't stop coming". Yet, he never held a grudge against the N Korean troops or the Chinese. He never referred to them with anything other than respect for being brave and dedicated soldiers.

The only thing I ever heard him say about the Vietnam War during the entire conflict was while we were watching the news in the late 60's sometime. "the bastards aren't going to let us win this time either". No beloved patriot or subhuman comments. Ever.

So you can take your little sarcastic comments about what you think I believe and shove them up your bipolar little @ss. No disrespect intended BTW.
308nato, don't take Moonbeam too seriously; he likes to generalize opinions, thoughts and ideals that contradict his own. Just read his sig; certain parts of it are true: "The above is probably just my usual gibberish."

 
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