North Korea warns of nuclear attack on U.S.

dank69

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Trump: "I explained to the President of China that a trade deal with the U.S. will be far better for them if they solve the North Korean problem!"

Anyone think any Trump supporters have enough brain power to realize this statement is a direct contradiction to his campaign rhetoric about undoing the "horrible trade deal" we have with China? Not only is he not going to undo it, he'll make it even sweeter for them.
 

brycejones

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Trump: "I explained to the President of China that a trade deal with the U.S. will be far better for them if they solve the North Korean problem!"

Anyone think any Trump supporters have enough brain power to realize this statement is a direct contradiction to his campaign rhetoric about undoing the "horrible trade deal" we have with China? Not only is he not going to undo it, he'll make it even sweeter for them.

What he intended to say was if they take care of North Korea they only have to suck my left nut instead of the entire sack in the new deal.

As for what North Korea said:

Meh, same empty words month after month, don't care anymore.
 

herm0016

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The chances of NK getting one off the ground without us killing it first is fairly low, the chances of it making past the various missile defense systems and onto soil are even lower.
 

DrunkenSano

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The chances of NK getting one off the ground without us killing it first is fairly low, the chances of it making past the various missile defense systems and onto soil are even lower.

Much higher chance of NK blowing themselves up before the missile can get off of the ground.
 

Bigdig

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What he intended to say was if they take care of North Korea they only have to suck my left nut instead of the entire sack in the new deal.

As for what North Korea said:

Meh, same empty words month after month, don't care anymore.
Your vulgar and your IQ is Low.the MECHANICS overview will go forward on KIM JONG UN.☠️.
 

Hayabusa Rider

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Kim is going to respond with a nuke, eh? I wonder if he bought one of those Aussie monster trucks to deliver it.
 

alien42

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The chances of NK getting one off the ground without us killing it first is fairly low, the chances of it making past the various missile defense systems and onto soil are even lower.

i don't think anyone believes NK currently has the capability to successfully strike the US. the problem is the threat towards South Korea, Japan, and all other allies in that part of the world.
 

Grooveriding

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Why is North Korea all of a sudden this dire threat ? The boobs there have been blustering for decades and nothing comes of it. Suddenly there is need for immediate action ? This could easily be more of Dump looking for ways to use military action to distract from Russia and try to get positive accolades for himself.

Right now it looks like he is trying to instigate and escalate.
 

Puffnstuff

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Baby Kim has had enough time to miniaturize his nukes to fit on his missiles. This gives him options that weren't available a decade ago. If you will recall not so long ago his troops shelled over the SK border damaging property and injuring people without a proper response. The next time they do it their entire southern border should become an example keeping things to military only targets. His poor starving people should not be made to pay for living under a dictatorship. Take him out and reunify Korea in a manner like when East and West Germany were brought back together.
 

alien42

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Why is North Korea all of a sudden this dire threat ? The boobs there have been blustering for decades and nothing comes of it. Suddenly there is need for immediate action ? This could easily be more of Dump looking for ways to use military action to distract from Russia and try to get positive accolades for himself.

Right now it looks like he is trying to instigate and escalate.

if you are unaware of NKs nuclear testing and missile progress in the past year, i suggest doing a little research.
 

Grooveriding

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if you are unaware of NKs nuclear testing and missile progress in the past year, i suggest doing a little research.

I'm aware of it, but he's been at this for a while and there is no situation under which he would be victorious in any engagement he instigated, and they'd have to know that in NK. I find the timing, under the current US administration, suspect. What is the strategy ? Go in and have another Iraq fiesta ? Bombing them to hell and killing hundreds of thousands again ? In the midst of which does he launch his nukes at SK or other close by neighbours as a going away present ?

I don't see the potential for any sort of viable diplomacy from the Trump administration, because they are largely incompetent, and the head of the snake is crazed and craves positive attention. So another war shortly after a Republican enters the White House, which will likely wind up like the past ones; with the outcome being worse than the situation preceding the idiotic decision to start yet another one.

It's become a consistent pattern now that Republicans win the Presidency and then start wars. Why ? I think at this point the world would be much better off if US foreign policy resigned its self from the self-appointed position of world police. The results have been nothing but disastrous time and again.
 

GagHalfrunt

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Baby Kim has had enough time to miniaturize his nukes to fit on his missiles. This gives him options that weren't available a decade ago. If you will recall not so long ago his troops shelled over the SK border damaging property and injuring people without a proper response. The next time they do it their entire southern border should become an example keeping things to military only targets. His poor starving people should not be made to pay for living under a dictatorship. Take him out and reunify Korea in a manner like when East and West Germany were brought back together.

The size and capability of his nukes are completely irrelevant. HE'S. NOT. GOING. TO. USE. THEM. PERIOD.

Why is this so difficult to comprehend? He pops off one tiny nuke on one tiny target his country disappears into a smoking crater, he dies and he rules nothing. That's why nobody uses nukes, it's suicide. He threatens us to look tough so that he can show his people what a great leader he is, protecting them from us by threatening us so that we don't attack them. And we allow him to posture and blather and threaten because our leadership wants the same thing. They need an enemy to point to so that they can pretend they're protecting us. It's a shell game.
 
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brycejones

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Baby Kim has had enough time to miniaturize his nukes to fit on his missiles. This gives him options that weren't available a decade ago. If you will recall not so long ago his troops shelled over the SK border damaging property and injuring people without a proper response. The next time they do it their entire southern border should become an example keeping things to military only targets. His poor starving people should not be made to pay for living under a dictatorship. Take him out and reunify Korea in a manner like when East and West Germany were brought back together.

They have done stuff for decades without what I assume you would consider a "proper" response. The South is playing the long game, they know NK will eventually collapse without a major war they also don't want their largest city to be devastated if small things are escalated to big things. If you want to go on a one man crusade to free the North I suggest you start reading Solider of Fortune and training now.
 

alien42

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I'm aware of it, but he's been at this for a while and there is no situation under which he would be victorious in any engagement he instigated, and they'd have to know that in NK. I find the timing, under the current US administration, suspect. What is the strategy ? Go in and have another Iraq fiesta ? Bombing them to hell and killing hundreds of thousands again ? In the midst of which does he launch his nukes at SK or other close by neighbours as a going away present ?

I don't see the potential for any sort of viable diplomacy from the Trump administration, because they are largely incompetent, and the head of the snake is crazed and craves positive attention. So another war shortly after a Republican enters the White House, which will likely wind up like the past ones; with the outcome being worse than the situation preceding the idiotic decision to start yet another one.

It's become a consistent pattern now that Republicans win the Presidency and then start wars. Why ? I think at this point the world would be much better off if US foreign policy resigned its self from the self-appointed position of world police. The results have been nothing but disastrous time and again.

overall, i agree with you and have the same questions, as i think most people do. my only point is that NK has advanced their nuclear and missile capacity and technology in recent years.

at this point, i just can't see any possibility of US ground troops going into NK. imo, if Trump were to take action it would be via air and sea, and we should all hope that doesn't happen, mostly for our allies sakes.
 

FIVR

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If my account goes silent after the nuke hits my CA city... that'd be pretty sweet. How many people get to predict their own death by nuclear annihilation?
 

IronWing

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If my account goes silent after the nuke hits my CA city... that'd be pretty sweet. How many people get to predict their own death by nuclear annihilation?
You're eleventy billion times more likely to be hit by a drunk driver in Moscow than nuked in CA.
 

Grooveriding

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overall, i agree with you and have the same questions, as i think most people do. my only point is that NK has advanced their nuclear and missile capacity and technology in recent years.

at this point, i just can't see any possibility of US ground troops going into NK. imo, if Trump were to take action it would be via air and sea, and we should all hope that doesn't happen, mostly for our allies sakes.

The world is not a utopia and there are dangerous people in positions of power. Sometimes the best course of action is going to be dealing with them directly, rather than letting them run rampant. History supports this with lunatics who were allowed to run away with things, who would have been better stopped early on, see Hitler. I think the problem with there being one entity who has taken it upon themselves to be the ones who are going to 'take care of things', is that that nation is subject to the ebbs and flows of whoever is in power. Concentrated decision making on these issues is not a good thing imo and consensus among a larger group would be the better way to proceed.

Before Trump was elected I was most concerned with his use of the military and expected him to start wars and be bombing. He's exceeded my expectations in how quickly he's already there, it' hasn't even been four months. Having an unstable individual who is not qualified leaves the whole world at the whims of likely incompetent leadership and disastrous decision making. Bush Jr. screwed up hugely, but it could be argued that he was surrounded by people competent, albeit complicit - in the disaster of Iraq. Trump is useless and surrounded by mostly useless people. It doesn't bode well for any sort of military action. The man is too emotionally unstable and unintelligent to make coherent and rational decisions. With the people who are advising him similarly unqualified, there is not enough sanity and competent advisement to salvage him from royally screwing up.

I don't think NK is planning to do anything beyond the usual dog and pony show they've run with. If they are actually attacked though, I could then see them launching their nukes at whatever they can reach. It would be a nightmare situation. Provoking them and trying to look tough is stupidity on Trump's part.
 

cyclohexane

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The size and capability of his nukes are completely irrelevant. HE'S. NOT. GOING. TO. USE. THEM. PERIOD.

Why is this so difficult to comprehend? He pops off one tiny nuke on one tiny target his country disappears into a smoking crater, he dies and he rules nothing. That's why nobody uses nukes, it's suicide. He threatens us to look tough so that he can show his people what a great leader he is, protecting them from us by threatening us so that we don't attack them. And we allow him to posture and blather and threaten because our leadership wants the same thing. They need an enemy to point to so that they can pretend they're protecting us. It's a shell game.

You are assuming that people are rational.

They are not. Case in point, all the experts told the Japanese it was suicide to enter into war with the US in WWII, yet they did it anyway.
 
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